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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......
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I wanted to chime in to let everyone know my plants are doing great, and I love all of you so much I can't help but type it right here, right now. None of this would be possible, the sheer number of people who are, on some level, participating in the civil disobedience that growing pot indoors amounts to, in practice, without this board and all of the wonderful people who risk everything to teach and advise their fellow growers. All of us risk so much, all of us worry about our doors getting kicked down, and for what? To grow the world's most wondeful plant even when our government and moralizing fellow citizens would have us hung from our feet for doing what we do if we were to give them half the chance.
What we do is amazing, and I hope none of you ever forget it. Take time to think about what you do, to stand in absolute wonderment at what you do. I've learned so much about life and humanity that I would never have known had I never planted a seed, grown a plant, looked over my shoulder for the people who wish to take my freedom from me for no good reason. It makes me smile and laugh even when I'm feeling like shit, knowing there are so many of you who are like me, out there in the world, doing your own things. I think about some of you sometimes, and you're strangers and I've never heard your real names or seen your faces, yet I feel intimately connected to all of you. I salute you, all of you. Thank you so much. Stay safe and happy.
And I stopped smoking a couple weeks ago, LoL. I'm growing for fun now, and to smoke my own herb when I have it. It's amazing: growing has helped me to quit smoking as often. Tell me that's not amazing, and I'll call you a liar.
What we do is amazing, and I hope none of you ever forget it. Take time to think about what you do, to stand in absolute wonderment at what you do. I've learned so much about life and humanity that I would never have known had I never planted a seed, grown a plant, looked over my shoulder for the people who wish to take my freedom from me for no good reason. It makes me smile and laugh even when I'm feeling like shit, knowing there are so many of you who are like me, out there in the world, doing your own things. I think about some of you sometimes, and you're strangers and I've never heard your real names or seen your faces, yet I feel intimately connected to all of you. I salute you, all of you. Thank you so much. Stay safe and happy.
And I stopped smoking a couple weeks ago, LoL. I'm growing for fun now, and to smoke my own herb when I have it. It's amazing: growing has helped me to quit smoking as often. Tell me that's not amazing, and I'll call you a liar.
Koroz said:wow thank you Sugar. Let me see if I can get a better picture
Anyways my questions were as follows:
1) 30% humidity since veg, Can not get any higher then 38ish with Misting the plant on lights on. Is this problem huge enough that I should rebuild a wood box instead of using my current "premade" enclosure? Also, is Misting bad during early flower to try and bring the humidity up a little more around 40%?
30% humitidty should not be a problem unless it is causing your plants to be hurt. Most likely it is just making them transpire more water and your watering frequency will be higher. It would actually be a pretty nice environment for a hydro dwc where the roots are sitting in oxygenated water.
As for misting - it always increases the chance of mold - probably not a big deal in early flower but later on of course it's could be. I personally never sprayed any of my plants - ever - but that's me - my grow environment was pretty sterile ...
so relax if the plants are doing fine then you're ok - not sure changing the space they are in will do much to increase humidity and like i said 30% is manageable. My grow regularly had low RH in the mid 30's during winter.
It's up to you - (btw it sounds like you want to build a new cab - so go for it
) - 85 during lights on is pretty warm -but not going to kill plants - could result in more airy buds but again 85 isn't too warm - just think outdoor grows normally whether 90s and 100s what is your ambient room temperature? having more efficient and greater air movement could result in being closer to that ambient room temperature - this could be a good reason for building a cabinet.
Some strains will not react well to the heat but most can and will handle it - pipedream will tell you the jamician sativas he grows like the hot temps.
Now if you were running hydro and had your res in the grow space you certainly could run into root rot issues if the water temps are too high - less of concern for soil - but remember she wants her roots to be cool like as if they were in the ground outside - so even in soil you can have problems with the planters getting too warm and over heating the soil damaging the roots - white planters are a good solution here and also keeping the soil shaded with a nice thick canopy.
more blue in the spectrum isn't a bad thing as it tends to produce shorter internode lengths = less stretch = more densly packed buds but you will be adding more heat (I bet another 4-5 degrees - it will suprise you) with that 35 watter. In my experience I found that adding a pair of t8 tubes with 37 watts total to my setup raised temps 4 degrees - but my temps were low 70s so I could afford the increase - not sure if you will be able to.
Well this is the a question - it's your first grow so I would leave them on and in another three weeks when you get to 7 weeks of flower you can cut them off as samples... next grow take them off if you want. Just don't let branches and lots of leaves grow under the screen.
Rasta nice job on the harvest - enjoy the fruits of your labor - it is something special - I still have two little buds from my first 150 grow - I'll save them till I'm completely dry (in like 2010 maybe)...
-suga
Koroz
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Hi SugarBear
Thanks for the answers. The thing I am learning most is not to mess with something if they show no signs of problems. I appreciate the answers. You did catch on that I want to build a new cab, I guess I have made up my mind and after I read the first question, yea I realize now that building a cab won't help raise humidity.
I do however want to build one because I want to try something more then LST this time, and this cab is very hard to get around in with out building a whole frame and if I am going to spend the time doing that I would like to try my hand at building the OG Cab that was sticky in the micro forums.
I added the light, I also added a fan pointed strait up at it. This hasn't messed with my airflow, and it has allowed me to put in the 35w with 1degree increase in temps. Ambient room temps never go above 72, Air is always on 70 (I hate the heat). I am using 4 PC Fans pushing air in a 2"x6" intake hole that is covered in both a red, and black thin stretched sock taped around it to prevent light leaks. The outtake is a 4" inline fan going to a carbon scrubber.
I am thinking with the next grow, I might try taking off the fans, making the intake size a bit bigger and maybe taking apart my light and trying to jimmy rig a remote ballast (Its a florolux 150watt all in one w/ glass shield)
anyways thanks for the answers, had a problem this past couple days with power dropping at my pad so they have longer then normal dark periods, and I was unable to get in to them for watering so they are showing signs of what I think are water releated issues (Looks like old leather kinda? Dark lush green leaves, with what looks like nit burn, but it looks like old leather when it crackles) I refilled the resevoire twice in the last two days and she has really perked up, the leafs still show signs of what happened but overall she really came back fast and I have been so happy with this Aurora Indica it really can take a beating.
Thanks for the answers. The thing I am learning most is not to mess with something if they show no signs of problems. I appreciate the answers. You did catch on that I want to build a new cab, I guess I have made up my mind and after I read the first question, yea I realize now that building a cab won't help raise humidity.
I do however want to build one because I want to try something more then LST this time, and this cab is very hard to get around in with out building a whole frame and if I am going to spend the time doing that I would like to try my hand at building the OG Cab that was sticky in the micro forums.
I added the light, I also added a fan pointed strait up at it. This hasn't messed with my airflow, and it has allowed me to put in the 35w with 1degree increase in temps. Ambient room temps never go above 72, Air is always on 70 (I hate the heat). I am using 4 PC Fans pushing air in a 2"x6" intake hole that is covered in both a red, and black thin stretched sock taped around it to prevent light leaks. The outtake is a 4" inline fan going to a carbon scrubber.
I am thinking with the next grow, I might try taking off the fans, making the intake size a bit bigger and maybe taking apart my light and trying to jimmy rig a remote ballast (Its a florolux 150watt all in one w/ glass shield)
anyways thanks for the answers, had a problem this past couple days with power dropping at my pad so they have longer then normal dark periods, and I was unable to get in to them for watering so they are showing signs of what I think are water releated issues (Looks like old leather kinda? Dark lush green leaves, with what looks like nit burn, but it looks like old leather when it crackles) I refilled the resevoire twice in the last two days and she has really perked up, the leafs still show signs of what happened but overall she really came back fast and I have been so happy with this Aurora Indica it really can take a beating.
hmm Koroz -- a couple of thoughts - the old sticky on OG is also commonly refered to as NGB cab - for the person who wrote that thread NewGanjaBoy - I believe there is a thread on it here and you may even be able to dig up the original thread with a search on the web. It got many of us growing - I use the same 134 cfm dayton he used.
and on another note - it sounds like you are using active intake - most of us just go with a passive intake (open intake hole) and have all the fans pulling air out of the cabinet with one or two for air circulation inside the cabinet. For light proofing there are these things called darkroom louvers that work excellent - another option is to use pvc elbows at right angles from eachother. If you click the link in my signature called "sugabear's den" you'll see some pictures of building these pvc light trap intakes.
jimmying the remote from your florolux should be pretty easy btw it's just extending a few wires.
sounds like ph issue on the leaves
good luck and keep up the good work -
it is funny how sometimes the plants do best when you leave them alone
-suga
and on another note - it sounds like you are using active intake - most of us just go with a passive intake (open intake hole) and have all the fans pulling air out of the cabinet with one or two for air circulation inside the cabinet. For light proofing there are these things called darkroom louvers that work excellent - another option is to use pvc elbows at right angles from eachother. If you click the link in my signature called "sugabear's den" you'll see some pictures of building these pvc light trap intakes.
jimmying the remote from your florolux should be pretty easy btw it's just extending a few wires.
sounds like ph issue on the leaves
good luck and keep up the good work -
it is funny how sometimes the plants do best when you leave them alone
-suga
Hey 150 club, I was in Walmart tonight and came across some containers that were only $1.50 each and looked like they'd be perfect for my cab. Looks like they are!
Here's a couple layouts I tried out, I've got 5 mixed seedlings and a SD IBL clone going right now, so I think I'll do the seedlings in the 2 liter bottles and the clone in one of the containers. The black containers are 7.6 liters, and the widest points are 7"x11".
I like the first two layouts posted. The first one will be good for seedlings and finding phenos, maybe some seed making, and the second will be good for growing out four big clones.The third layout I don't think would work, it seems like it'd be too much in front of the passive intake.
How do they look for a 150w HPS, in a 22"x14" area?
Here's a couple layouts I tried out, I've got 5 mixed seedlings and a SD IBL clone going right now, so I think I'll do the seedlings in the 2 liter bottles and the clone in one of the containers. The black containers are 7.6 liters, and the widest points are 7"x11".
I like the first two layouts posted. The first one will be good for seedlings and finding phenos, maybe some seed making, and the second will be good for growing out four big clones.The third layout I don't think would work, it seems like it'd be too much in front of the passive intake.
How do they look for a 150w HPS, in a 22"x14" area?
Lemon
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FiveSevenZero said:What we do is amazing, and I hope none of you ever forget it. Take time to think about what you do, to stand in absolute wonderment at what you do. I've learned so much about life and humanity that I would never have known had I never planted a seed, grown a plant, looked over my shoulder for the people who wish to take my freedom from me for no good reason. It makes me smile and laugh even when I'm feeling like shit, knowing there are so many of you who are like me, out there in the world, doing your own things. I think about some of you sometimes, and you're strangers and I've never heard your real names or seen your faces, yet I feel intimately connected to all of you. I salute you, all of you. Thank you so much. Stay safe and happy.
And I stopped smoking a couple weeks ago, LoL. I'm growing for fun now, and to smoke my own herb when I have it. It's amazing: growing has helped me to quit smoking as often. Tell me that's not amazing, and I'll call you a liar.
Cheers to that
You know, its funny, I too don't smoke very often these days. When I have it, i have it, but i dont chase dealers anymore. I love growing and do it more because I enjoy it than because I desire the end product. It feels awesome - in a strange way - to love something so much that I put myself at risk to do it.
570: Right on brother!
Bounty: Nice hood. Can you post a few more pix of it? What are the dementions of your cab? 4 plants might be a bit much under a 150, but I'm pretty new at this.
Koroz: You said it best yourself. Don't mess w/a good thing. The best advice I've received on growing is "don't mind fuck it".
Bounty: Nice hood. Can you post a few more pix of it? What are the dementions of your cab? 4 plants might be a bit much under a 150, but I'm pretty new at this.
Koroz: You said it best yourself. Don't mess w/a good thing. The best advice I've received on growing is "don't mind fuck it".
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i guess since everyone else is posting pics of their rooms, i'll post some of mine:
pretty self explanatory. i sunk the buckets into the floor, thinking i was clever. black buckets would have been better. the main thing i'm noticing is explosive growth in the new hydro setup, as well as unbelievable ease of use. i thought this was going to be hard and started out in soil. i'm not sure if i would have been able to start w/ hydro, but i can say now it's quite ease. check water level. check ph. adjust accordingly.
i tried my best not to cut many corners. the light comes courtesy of two 150w HPS bulbs, and two ballasts wired in parallel. when i started, i had no idea how to grow a plant. no idea. a couple months later and look: plants growing healthy and happy in bubbling buckets.
the big girl is a speed queen clone of unknown sex. i think it's a female. the other two are cuts from the same bagseed plant, known females.
pretty self explanatory. i sunk the buckets into the floor, thinking i was clever. black buckets would have been better. the main thing i'm noticing is explosive growth in the new hydro setup, as well as unbelievable ease of use. i thought this was going to be hard and started out in soil. i'm not sure if i would have been able to start w/ hydro, but i can say now it's quite ease. check water level. check ph. adjust accordingly.
i tried my best not to cut many corners. the light comes courtesy of two 150w HPS bulbs, and two ballasts wired in parallel. when i started, i had no idea how to grow a plant. no idea. a couple months later and look: plants growing healthy and happy in bubbling buckets.
the big girl is a speed queen clone of unknown sex. i think it's a female. the other two are cuts from the same bagseed plant, known females.
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ok so i have a question. i have an all in one 150..florolux i believe.
it came with a glass sheild on it...my question is can i take it off as i cant get enough air threw the "vents" in the hood of this light. i dont water/mist/spray anything in my cab so no water should touch the bulb. would it be better to remove the glass totally or just pull it out somewhat and have a gap for air to go in?
heres the only pics i have of it...cam broke down
it came with a glass sheild on it...my question is can i take it off as i cant get enough air threw the "vents" in the hood of this light. i dont water/mist/spray anything in my cab so no water should touch the bulb. would it be better to remove the glass totally or just pull it out somewhat and have a gap for air to go in?
heres the only pics i have of it...cam broke down
I'm with bounty on this one. Just remove the glass all together. It only pays to keep it in place if you have the light right up aginst the tops of the plants, and you have very good air flow thru the hood.
As you look around the other cabinets, you'll see that most folks do not use a lens.
As you look around the other cabinets, you'll see that most folks do not use a lens.
BoB91
Active member
here is my gypsy gum and my wr x black kush. 12/12 from seed. Number of days I do not know. My gum has just shown some female preflowers 
the other hasnt shown.
I had placed the wr x bk on top of the gum w/o the tray not thinking that the roots would find their way through the drainage holes
I transplanted the wr tonight so all is good hopefully
the other hasnt shown. I had placed the wr x bk on top of the gum w/o the tray not thinking that the roots would find their way through the drainage holes
I transplanted the wr tonight so all is good hopefully
kinda quiet here lately, here's what up in my flower cabinet ...
it's my sugarwarp which was revegged and has been in flower for 1 month. at this point, my past grows were starting to look quite ragged with a fair bit of leaf loss. this one is quite healthy and has hardly shed a leaf, so i guess i must have learned something ? certainly the LST technique has worked out well on this plant. i think that it also helped to have just one plant in the cabinet; seems to work better for my set-up.
in the veg. cabinet ...
just a baby sugarwarp, 2 days out of the dirt. out of 5 seeds germed, this is the only one that rose up out of the soil. there's 1 more that might make it, but the other 3 are toast. i am hoping for a lot from this 1 (possibly 2) seedling(s); A) for it to be female and B) for it to show more sativa characteristics than the last one . not too worried though, if it doesnt work out i have some Satori from Mandala on order. i am starting to understand the importance of genetics (thanks for your input on that topic,Sugabear) and will be searching for a more "heady" effect from future grows.
happy gardening, everyone !
it's my sugarwarp which was revegged and has been in flower for 1 month. at this point, my past grows were starting to look quite ragged with a fair bit of leaf loss. this one is quite healthy and has hardly shed a leaf, so i guess i must have learned something ? certainly the LST technique has worked out well on this plant. i think that it also helped to have just one plant in the cabinet; seems to work better for my set-up.
in the veg. cabinet ...
just a baby sugarwarp, 2 days out of the dirt. out of 5 seeds germed, this is the only one that rose up out of the soil. there's 1 more that might make it, but the other 3 are toast. i am hoping for a lot from this 1 (possibly 2) seedling(s); A) for it to be female and B) for it to show more sativa characteristics than the last one . not too worried though, if it doesnt work out i have some Satori from Mandala on order. i am starting to understand the importance of genetics (thanks for your input on that topic,Sugabear) and will be searching for a more "heady" effect from future grows.
happy gardening, everyone !
hey y'all 
green_Grow that plant looks very healthy and happy - good work - I guess you must have learned something - now you just need to figure out what the change was
so you can keep it that way. Good luck with the search for headyness - the satori sure looks like it will get you there if the sugarwarp doesn't pan out - nice choice
namo -
bob - nice healthy plants
koroz - nice mutant plants
green_Grow that plant looks very healthy and happy - good work - I guess you must have learned something - now you just need to figure out what the change was
so you can keep it that way. Good luck with the search for headyness - the satori sure looks like it will get you there if the sugarwarp doesn't pan out - nice choice namo -
bob - nice healthy plants
koroz - nice mutant plants
green grow - Re-vegging a plant always give me a great feeling of accomplishment & satisfaction. I don't know, maybe it has something to do with all of the time shared or effort taken, I actually grow attached to them. A good number of years back, I put one young lady through 4 or 5 cycles till she could take no more.
Yours is looking great! Here's one season for each healthy branch I can count. Enjoy them both.
Regards, PD
Yours is looking great! Here's one season for each healthy branch I can count. Enjoy them both.
Regards, PD
pipedream ... yer making me jealous, man ! i didnt know that they made that many seasons . now i wonder whether there might be a few episodes that i missed ? gives me something to look forward to .
BoB91 ... those plants look good. how did the transplant go ?
BoB91 ... those plants look good. how did the transplant go ?
