I saw that recently on the Mr Nice Forum and it disappoints me... profoundly, to be honest with you. Unfortunately, intentional feminization is now the norm and even this old dinosaur understands the reasons for both the sellers and growers to be interested in not having to deal with males.Shantibaba is selling NL5 fems nowadays, found that pretty interesting.
I think it's pretty cool. Especially if it genuinely is an S1 of the old NL5 clone. Could even be considered a major contribution culturally then. But not sure if it is, info on the site is scarce.I saw that recently on the Mr Nice Forum and it disappoints me... profoundly, to be honest with you. Unfortunately, intentional feminization is now the norm and even this old dinosaur understands the reasons for both the sellers and growers to be interested in not having to deal with males.
Whatever's easiest and fastest to get you what you want, in the least possible time, is today's marketing mantra.
But it _astounds_ me that Shanti would use the specific #5 . If there's one thing that I've learned through many years of tracking down the origins of Northern Lights, it's that the #5 that was the foundational _plant_ for Nevil was, indeed a unicorn. If Nevil couldn't source a verifiable #5 in 2010, then absolutely no one else can either. Especially now, with all the marketing hoopla and bullshit that's being bombarded in every possible media outlet for growing cannabis.
For me, the only company that has the certified, genetic material of #5 is Sensi, and that's a fucking fact.
As much as I respect Shanti and know that his heart is in the right place, I can't believe he is selling a feminized #5.I think it's pretty cool. Especially if it genuinely is an S1 of the old NL5 clone.
Sorry for temporarily jacking the thread, looks like it was dying anyway, but just found this out and remembered goingrey's post in this thread.Shantibaba is selling NL5 fems nowadays, found that pretty interesting.
funny story honestly, i was so sure it was a female, i told my son it was his plant, and i am not allowed to cull it for this reason or he will be upset and i want him to have positive experiences gardening not horrified when dad chops down his big plant ya know. so this male was lucky, or maybe im the lucky one for not culling it, i don't mind only using 3 plants for a small bit of bubble hash, and having some seeds to gift friends. but next plants will be only lightly seeded the orissas i got going, with original line male if i can find one. orissa seems to be one of those funky lines from what i've heard with high female population.Thought you were going crazy didnt you? Lol
It is not common, but it is perfectly possible.Hi, I am posting this message because I have just come across a real male with feminized seeds by surprise and I would like to know if it is viable to be used to make seeds, what would happen? Will I have regular seeds or will they be feminized? Because two females give exclusively female offspring but the 1% chance of having a male remains very rare... and is it special? I have trouble understanding how with female chromosomes I can have a male, is it a pure male? It’s such a shame, I’m giving all my hope to this plant, it’s magnificent and growing super fast, I really wanted to keep it for its spectacular growth.
(it's a real male and not a hermaphrodite, no pistil, only male organs for pre-flowers)
Genetics is a science that is still very unknown, and even more so in Cannabis.Ask someone who believes this nonsense, what their level of understanding of genetics is. I promise, they don't have one. If anyone thinks I'm wrong, please post your bullshit on how the Y chromosome appears out of thin air, or admit you're woke.
There is numerous literature that says that monoecious hemp has a tendency to return to their natural dioecious state.To answer the question in bold, I could simply say, why not unicorns? But it's because the Y chromosome silences the X associated genes in the autosome. This Y chromosome would need a serious mutation that makes it ineffective in order to become a male Hermie. That is however irrelevant to the topic at hand. Which is when two females breed, where is the Y coming from? To say it just does and there's evidence on the forums, well I think my point is demonstrated.
You are a breath of fresh air, new member. I'm a relative FNG here myself but you are welcome addition on ICM!There is numerous literature that says that monoecious crops have a tendency to return to their natural dioecious state.
Of course it could be due to accidental pollination, or due to the existence of a monoecious XY genotype, or for some other reason.
The same could apply to our feminized seeds, it could be due to accidental pollination, or even the use of an XY plant that behaves like a female plant.
But I am not referring to these cases, my faith in this possibility is based on the fact that dioecious plants have a hermaphroditic origin, and the transformation from monoecious to dioecious has happened many times and independently.
And in the same way that hermaphrodite vestiges remain in the DNA that allow us to have feminized plants, there could also be vestiges that allow this transformation from monoecious to dioecious.
I think it could perfectly be a survival mechanism to avoid inbreeding of the monoecious system.
On the other hand, I don't think we have a definitive theory about the sexual determinism of cannabis either.
It is my opinion, and perhaps an act of faith, I am not trying to convince you or anyone.
I have had a hard time finding the meaning of FNGYou are a breath of fresh air, new member. I'm a relative FNG here myself but you are welcome addition on ICM!
"On the other hand, I don't think we have a definitive theory about the sexual determinism of cannabis either."
Something some participants in this thread probably don't understand.
Welcome, fellow FNG.
I couldn't explain to you how or why it happens, buts it's 100% proven these days with EVERY well known Feminized seed breeder has experience this after making 1000's of Feminized seeds over many yearsAsk someone who believes this nonsense, what their level of understanding of genetics is. I promise, they don't have one. If anyone thinks I'm wrong, please post your bullshit on how the Y chromosome appears out of thin air, or admit you're woke.
1. You can't use studies on hemp to prove a cannabis point.