Zamaldelica

[Dropped Cat]

Thanks spugg, that´s a great advice, i´m not interested in very scary weed, like her friendly.
I would say 80-90% of her hairs are brown now.

Smoke test from last week was scary, i let her go a bit longer.

You are right to let her get more ripe, stuff's potent and
will be more sublime with a couple months cure too.

I have some more than a year in jars and is very warm at that point.

I cobbed and made bubble from my Zamaldelica too. Such lovely plants.
Yours looks Thai leaning and should be an excellent smoke.

i have one in flower now with two more vegging.

Good stuff.

 

['Boogieman']

Yeah that looks just like it! Beautiful girl you got there. As far as I can tell from the first pic she still has a lot of white hairs. I waited mine out untill all hairs were brown and curled and I started seing amber trichomes. The moment I saw amber, I took her. She gets friendlier, less scary, if you let her go a little longer. Any smoke tests? If she scares the s**t out of you, she is'nt ready yet.

Can you explain the high you experience that makes it scare the s**t out of you? Personally it sounds like what im after.

 

[Sativamane]

Can you explain the high you experience that makes it scare the s**t out of you? Personally it sounds like what im after.

Lol...That's the spirit.

 

[Tangwena]

Hearing police sirens when there aren't any, hearing people in the house when your alone, seeing shadows move out of the corner of your eye, thinking you are about to get busted any minute, you know paranoia. Wishing you hadn't had that third drag. But it passes and then your just spaced out blissfully.
Tangwena

 

[earthwyrms]

what is it that makes the difference between energetic/electric and "terrorific" / racy? is it CBN or CBN and CBG?

(if more trichs brown would be more CBN and "friendlier", are the electric types just not as potent, or it wouldn't give the racy effect.?

for example, the ACE ethiopian or Gypsy Nirvana and/or ACE lao luang prabang ? compared to ACE double thai, golden tiger, zamaldelica.?

i read CBD is usually absent in sativa, but some columbians can be stony/introspective, like U.S.C coljam or ACE Malawi(? but not if harvested when the trichomes are all clear or cloudy).

basically, is it solely CBN with THC ratios that are the cause, or is it CBG, or other compounds as well?

i know some people who have heart issues and i have wondered if electric sativas and/or the gentle lao luang prabang would be fine, or if they would get a racy heart thumper of a ride with a concentrated dose or smoking after tolerance breaks.


random,
~i made acetone hash out of my first 1/2 ounce (half of it, a quarter), which was supposedly from california and was not high grade. the effect on weed was visual and funny, euphoric slightly if i remember correctly, wandering through a wooded area.
~i was "up" high and extremely euphoric/body high from smoking so called piff, which i wonder if it was laced with freebase cocaine (crack, cocaine salt form pyrolizes)
~one time my neighbor and i smoked a bowl of a hybrid, with 2 or so marinol capsules popped in it. that was funny but not euphoric.
~ i smoked a hybrid around a couple of times, where i could feel my brain.
~ one time i smoked some "brown bomber" hash that was cosmic like (and had a quick tolerance buildup) i could imagine space travel and the cosmos.

and then

i smoked a weak poorly grown (possibly poorly, i don't know) and uncured sativa and barely felt high, untill i learned it's feel a little;
and then got a psychedelic experience when i smoked it with a 2cm piece of san bridgesii cacti, taken from the waste side of a re-cut of an attempt to save and re-pot/callous a san bridgesii cactus.
when i took a big vape hit four hours after drinking a tea made from the clean part of the discarded cut. it was the same sativa,
( i had eaten a 12in cut of san pedro before in my life and did not expect any noticeable effect from a 2cm piece of salvaged skin).
i got a; closer to peak, closer and closer, oh no, this isn't good, uh oh i don't feel ready/alright, sun light makes me feel better and sun glowing plants, dog is alive and a living creature, everything else is without meaning, i'm going to die someday, my "consciousness", where is god, is this it, experience, is everything going to dissolve, i don't know, curled up on my bed, rode it out. totally unexpected. and i realized that low of a dose of cactus alkaloids wasn't going to catapult me into oblivion, but my mind , with uncertainty, definitely made me think so. i had gotten a heavy feeling and had to leave some people when i smoked with them, a blunt of OG or something heavy, after i took one 15 mic (i think) tab of possibly old/degraded acid, but the cat tea experience was an up push, with a non tired/heavy, but curl up and die type effect.
later after a break, i had more of the sativa (always different parts from the buds / plants, which were probably more or less potent) and had an up sativa high come on, with energy, of panic and emotion, like how my life is; about mortality, about my work i am doing/ hope to do/ am prevented from doing, and if i can do anything more at the (specifically, then when high) time. i curled or cozied up in my bed, in the dark to deal with the mental thoughts/feelings, and bring in my self coaching; i'm alright, i did this (some work), i'm going to do this, don't think about that (doom) it's pointless, cope with it, hope/ it may be alright, thoughts.
that sativa was good for doing work (physical/mental), being busy, laughing off absurdity and in general being awake. when i got a heavier hot after a tolerance break (saving my last bits) i got a "crippling", ok i'm going to deal with some toughness, type high, but it felt like i had a helping hand with it. by being able to cozy up, it wasn't like a fear of the tearing off of my existence like with the cacti experience.
i hope i explained that faithfully enough.
my first weed was the california reggies or whatever. i used to wake up early, smoke it and go back to bed so i could be lucid.

i've not had auditory hallucinations on cannabis. i have with a large dose of mushrooms. my dog followed me outside and he is tiny, and i would hear enormous, leviathan sized sounds of moving, behind me. like movie theater giant alien machine kind of stuff; and every time i turned around it would stop and i saw the smiling (not actually smiling, but seemingly happy) little puppy, following me and looking at me, and i started laughing. then i pretended i would swim/breaststroke with my arms on the grass because it felt funny and also ridiculous to do so.

 

[earthwyrms]

Lol...That's the spirit.

ha ha ha

 

[Tangwena]

what is it that makes the difference between energetic/electric and "terrorific" / racy? is it CBN or CBN and CBG?

(if more trichs brown would be more CBN and "friendlier", are the electric types just not as potent, or it wouldn't give the racy effect.?

for example, the ACE ethiopian or Gypsy Nirvana and/or ACE lao luang prabang ? compared to ACE double thai, golden tiger, zamaldelica.?

i read CBD is usually absent in sativa, but some columbians can be stony/introspective, like U.S.C coljam or ACE Malawi(? but not if harvested when the trichomes are all clear or cloudy).

basically, is it solely CBN with THC ratios that are the cause, or is it CBG, or other compounds as well?

i know some people who have heart issues and i have wondered if electric sativas and/or the gentle lao luang prabang would be fine, or if they would get a racy heart thumper of a ride with a concentrated dose or smoking after tolerance breaks.


random,
~i made acetone hash out of my first 1/2 ounce (half of it, a quarter), which was supposedly from california and was not high grade. the effect on weed was visual and funny, euphoric slightly if i remember correctly, wandering through a wooded area.
~i was "up" high and extremely euphoric/body high from smoking so called piff, which i wonder if it was laced with freebase cocaine (crack, cocaine salt form pyrolizes)
~one time my neighbor and i smoked a bowl of a hybrid, with 2 or so marinol capsules popped in it. that was funny but not euphoric.
~ i smoked a hybrid around a couple of times, where i could feel my brain.
~ one time i smoked some "brown bomber" hash that was cosmic like (and had a quick tolerance buildup) i could imagine space travel and the cosmos.

and then

i smoked a weak poorly grown (possibly poorly, i don't know) and uncured sativa and barely felt high, untill i learned it's feel a little;
and then got a psychedelic experience when i smoked it with a 2cm piece of san bridgesii cacti, taken from the waste side of a re-cut of an attempt to save and re-pot/callous a san bridgesii cactus.
when i took a big vape hit four hours after drinking a tea made from the clean part of the discarded cut. it was the same sativa,
( i had eaten a 12in cut of san pedro before in my life and did not expect any noticeable effect from a 2cm piece of salvaged skin).
i got a; closer to peak, closer and closer, oh no, this isn't good, uh oh i don't feel ready/alright, sun light makes me feel better and sun glowing plants, dog is alive and a living creature, everything else is without meaning, i'm going to die someday, my "consciousness", where is god, is this it, experience, is everything going to dissolve, i don't know, curled up on my bed, rode it out. totally unexpected. and i realized that low of a dose of cactus alkaloids wasn't going to catapult me into oblivion, but my mind , with uncertainty, definitely made me think so. i had gotten a heavy feeling and had to leave some people when i smoked with them, a blunt of OG or something heavy, after i took one 15 mic (i think) tab of possibly old/degraded acid, but the cat tea experience was an up push, with a non tired/heavy, but curl up and die type effect.
later after a break, i had more of the sativa (always different parts from the buds / plants, which were probably more or less potent) and had an up sativa high come on, with energy, of panic and emotion, like how my life is; about mortality, about my work i am doing/ hope to do/ am prevented from doing, and if i can do anything more at the (specifically, then when high) time. i curled or cozied up in my bed, in the dark to deal with the mental thoughts/feelings, and bring in my self coaching; i'm alright, i did this (some work), i'm going to do this, don't think about that (doom) it's pointless, cope with it, hope/ it may be alright, thoughts.
that sativa was good for doing work (physical/mental), being busy, laughing off absurdity and in general being awake. when i got a heavier hot after a tolerance break (saving my last bits) i got a "crippling", ok i'm going to deal with some toughness, type high, but it felt like i had a helping hand with it. by being able to cozy up, it wasn't like a fear of the tearing off of my existence like with the cacti experience.
i hope i explained that faithfully enough.
my first weed was the california reggies or whatever. i used to wake up early, smoke it and go back to bed so i could be lucid.

i've not had auditory hallucinations on cannabis. i have with a large dose of mushrooms. my dog followed me outside and he is tiny, and i would hear enormous, leviathan sized sounds of moving, behind me. like movie theater giant alien machine kind of stuff; and every time i turned around it would stop and i saw the smiling (not actually smiling, but seemingly happy) little puppy, following me and looking at me, and i started laughing. then i pretended i would swim/breaststroke with my arms on the grass because it felt funny and also ridiculous to do so.

This is only my personal thoughts but the first thing that comes to me is you haven't had a good smoke yet. I dont mean that to sound like a put down but i have had everything you seek and more from good grass (sativas)
You cant have come across any yet, not just you most people have not.
I have not since I left Africa, strong knock you out stony even trippy but not what I would call a real high, just what passes for a high in the first world these days.
You need to keep looking just in the right places. Its not where you are.
Tangwena

 

[early_bird]

what is it that makes the difference between energetic/electric and "terrorific" / racy? is it CBN or CBN and CBG?

Your first question Cannabis activate the sympathetic nervous system, which triggers adrenaline and leads to higher blood pressure, increased heart beat, etc. (see wikipedia "sympatic nervous system")

It can be great if your body pour some adrenaline and you get active, but if this happens big style you, it scars the hell out of you, your heart beat feels uncontrolled high, etc. This is usually not very pleasant and quite annoying if you just wanna chill on your couch. Maybe not so much annoying if you are dancing at a big rave actually, where adrenaline is increased anyway.

From my experience, and to come back to the topic, Zamaldelica does a good job by releasing adrenaline, the high really feels like exiting journey somewhere and because of the "happy element" she has it is not unpleasant.

I wonder how such high THC levels in racy sativas would change with given betablockers, which are blocking the adrenaline rezeptors, but we are getting off-topic now

 

[2scoot]

Hearing police sirens when there aren't any, hearing people in the house when your alone, seeing shadows move out of the corner of your eye, thinking you are about to get busted any minute, you know paranoia. Wishing you hadn't had that third drag. But it passes and then your just spaced out blissfully.
Tangwena

You know me

 

[baduy]

Got 6 young unsexed zamaldelica now.
3 are very similar to what came out last year from the same batch of seeds and didn't give me a keeper, semi broad leaves and quite compact apparently.
3 others stand out from the lot.
One looking like a dead ringer to hmong thai/destroyer,large star shaped leaves,long internodes,slow growth. This one,if female, will deserve the honour to grow in my best location outdoor
Another one with very strong zamal leaning structure, horizontal branching, shoots starting from every nodes,3 leaflets leaves.
Another one is similar to the first one but looking more tamed.
No camera now but will post pics soon

 

[willydread]

With zamaldelica I had experienced synesthesia,the color of sound of rain,strange thing,like a bit of shroom...i love this strain....

 

[ULMW]

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Awesome job!!! Love her colors and appearance. Thanks for sharing .

 

[baduy]

Those two young zamaldelica I was talking about yesterday. Already very different from what I previously got from this pack of seeds.
Crappy cell-phone pic

 

[baduy]

 

[Tangwena]

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I grew 2013 fems and 2015 fems and yes very different phenos for me but the buds once cured are just as outstanding different smell (slightly) but awesome the matured cob cured buds smell like Lemon hash they are unreal, I just sniff them and its enough to set me off ha ha.
Tangwena

 

[akirabull]

here two different bonsai zamadelica selected mums, a healthy clones from them and a multi branch bonsai clone ready to flower.

 

['Boogieman']

I grew 2013 fems and 2015 fems and yes very different phenos for me but the buds once cured are just as outstanding different smell (slightly) but awesome the matured cob cured buds smell like Lemon hash they are unreal, I just sniff them and its enough to set me off ha ha.
Tangwena

Did you find the newer release faster maturing than the 2013 release? I want to try some outdoor but still debating on that with myself. I can't find any information regarding the newer release of this strain.

 

[Tangwena]

Did you find the newer release faster maturing than the 2013 release? I want to try some outdoor but still debating on that with myself. I can't find any information regarding the newer release of this strain.

Yes only slightly though that might have been that one pheno, I had Golden Tiger 2015 fem alongside they went 14 weeks so the Zam was 13 weeks
Zam and GT a week before harvest, I take them a little early because of the way I cure them it brings out the fast speedy effects.
If I leave them too long as normal the fermentation cure makes them too narcotic.
Cob cured these two are in my top 3 trippy effect strains and get me where I like to be for 8 to 10 hrs when a 0.35g piece of the cob cured bud is chewed. I no longer smoke as my lungs are nearly finished but my friends who do all report crazy good things and always want some when offered.

Tangwena

 

[Levitationofme]

Next Cobb for me will be Amnesia,
but that is for another thread

 

[willydread]

Few little zam