Zamaldelica

[GET MO]

I got one zamaldelica outside, its one of the first tings to start flowering. Lookin good, slightly nitrogen deficient, its about to be uppotted tomorrow n I'll take some shots.

 

[yoss33]

Me and a friend have had 2 semi-autoflowering plants out of 7 females from the initial standard Zamaldelica release. More pronounced in container(pot), but still shows outdoors, in the limitless ground, as strong preflowering and 1-2 weeks earlier start of flowering.
What these 2 semo-autoflowering plants also have in common is: compact, branchy structure, strong stems, small leaves on long leave-stems, branches run almost horizontally during veg, then curve upwards at start of flowering. I hope that the Zamal high goes together with these Zamal traits and the 2nd auto-flowering one that I'm growing now has the high of the first one that my friend grew in 2013. Very impressing truely lyzergic effect.

Here we are, still in this semi-auto mode and no real flowering:

And a fan leave:

 

[Dr.King]

Got a nice looking Zamaldelica going atm. It was a fem bean. Any reports from anyone smelling of straight strong spice and wood undertones in a pheno? She is 6 weeks into flowering. I thought my 24 week OTH smelled like spice. This Zamal isn't even finished and smells heavy. Can't wait for her to finish.

 

[dubi]

Hello would be daddy of a daughter!

Here's my other Jamaldelica sitting in the ground not showing any signs of flowering as of yesterday... judging by the leaves (thin, small and lime green) and octopus branching(what a branching!) is it Jamal leaning?

Orpheus

Hi orfeas,

Your Zamaldelica looks quite Zamal dominant, also with a bit of thai influence

 

[dubi]

Me and a friend have had 2 semi-autoflowering plants out of 7 females from the initial standard Zamaldelica release. More pronounced in container(pot), but still shows outdoors, in the limitless ground, as strong preflowering and 1-2 weeks earlier start of flowering.
What these 2 semo-autoflowering plants also have in common is: compact, branchy structure, strong stems, small leaves on long leave-stems, branches run almost horizontally during veg, then curve upwards at start of flowering. I hope that the Zamal high goes together with these Zamal traits and the 2nd auto-flowering one that I'm growing now has the high of the first one that my friend grew in 2013. Very impressing truely lyzergic effect.

Hi yoss,

Your garden is real real beautiful this year too Congrats!

Hope your Zamaldelicas can finish a bit better this season, hopefully you can also find the lysergic effects you found past year from the same genetics. Best wishes, the Panamas looks lovely too!

 

[dubi]

Got a nice looking Zamaldelica going atm. It was a fem bean. Any reports from anyone smelling of straight strong spice and wood undertones in a pheno? She is 6 weeks into flowering. I thought my 24 week OTH smelled like spice. This Zamal isn't even finished and smells heavy. Can't wait for her to finish.

Hi Dr King,

Which Zamaldelica fem release are you growing ? The new one released this year or from previous years ?

The older versions had more spicy woody aromas, i bred the new one towards more refined mango/mandarine/floral aromas.

 

[Dr.King]

Hi Dr King,

Which Zamaldelica fem release are you growing ? The new one released this year or from previous years ?

The older versions had more spicy woody aromas, i bred the new one towards more refined mango/mandarine/floral aromas.

This Zamal cloned really quickly ( 10 days, 3 cuts ) for only having 77 degrees and 60% humidity. No date on the package only grabbed 3 instead of a pack from this website. They only leave it in the original packaging which has the date on it. It was from the same site I purchased my older GH and OTH seeds between 06-08. I am guessing they are around that age. Also grabbed the last 24 Double Thais from the same site guessing they are around 08 as well. Thanks for the reply Dubi, you the man .

 

[dubi]

Zamaldelica mother from clone, growing everywhere, 4 weeks of flowering.

 

[yoss33]

And, perhaps, a sister of this mother approximately on the same stage of flowering:

 

[Dr.King]

Greetings all. Loving the way my Zamals are looking atm. Fast and easy cloned strain. Photo during week 8 of 11/13 currently week 9. Looks just like the picture on the website, couldn't be more pleased. Can't wait to taste and smoke her.

 

[vinrusso]

Guys, you are so easy to see the conspiracy, you don't even bother to read the history.

As you can read in this thread (I think), Ace have grown Zamal from the original Gypsy Nirvana's seeds and didn't keep any plants or breed for seeds because these Zamals were not really worth it. The line needs a lot of seeds and working to bring to a good condition.
Then Gerrit found one great plant (or rather 2) among the GN Zamal seeds he tried. A single cut that also has undesired characteristics (auto-flowering, hermie) but is otherwise great (compactness, short flowering time, potency, trippy high).
You cannot make a strain out of a single clone. No pure Zamal line possible.
You can cross it to something and then backcross, but this way you'll be constantly hitting the auto-flowering and hermi traits. So, the path of cubing the Gerrit cut to get almost-pure Zamal line is not a wise one - it would need lots of selection and careful testing of offspring on every generation.
If you haven't noticed, Ace and Cannabiogen are breeding over many generations strains started out as hybrids. This way they get the hybrid bonus for the first generations and then stabilization for the good traits compensates for the loss of hybrid vigour in the following generations. But all generations are good (even the first), and they don't have to work a line for several years before it becomes worthy. Maybe you want too much of them if you want stabilized pure sativa lines - this is so much work they might not even have the capacity to do it for more than 1 line.
As to why Golden Tiger was selected for Zamaldelica instead of Meao Thai - both hybrids were tried and it seems Ace found the GT hybrid (or only some of its results) worthier, effect- and plant-wise. You cannot blame Ace for their personal tastes. Everyone has his own preferences (I personally would like to see a Zamal x Haze offering) but it's Ace that are putting efforts into what they want, so they have the right to make of Zamaldelica whatever they wish.
Thcvhunter, if you want a good pure Zamal, why not try to breed one by yourself and tell us how easy it was? Original seeds from La Reunion are still popping up in the forums. You sound like it's easy, you only need to breed it, right?

Zamal/Meao thai cross ACE did have some years back 2009? Anyway it was about as trippy as one could get. The problem was it was very spindly and long flowering. So I think the Malawi was to put bigger yielding plant, yet still be able to get the killer pheno. I notice a lot of Zamal grows, yet the 2013 Zamaldelica was better than straight Zamal anyday.

 

[farmerlion]

I had a great weekend with family and friends in a great Blues bar. I had one large joint of Zamaldelica and one of my Crazy horse. I give them to the band and 3 chicks that wanted to get high. They were a few minutes late from their break and were absolutely DESTROYED when they came back in. I did cross both of my Hybrids with the Zamaldelica this past season. I will grow out the F1's this year. If Saturday night is any indication of things to come. I'm either on something or on to something! Thanks Dubi for the outstanding genetics. Peace

 

[greenghost420]

what should i buy if im looking for the most lysergic effects?

 

[Tangwena]

In my book Zamaldelica AND Golden Tiger one of them will float your boat for sure, and both of them together, well it might make you re evaluate everything you know.
Tangwena

 

[dubi]

Thanks yoss and Dr King for sharing your Zamaldelicas in flowering

Can really feel the difference between the wilder first Zamaldelica release that yoss is growing compared with the more modern and refined from Dr King.

 

[dubi]

I had a great weekend with family and friends in a great Blues bar. I had one large joint of Zamaldelica and one of my Crazy horse. I give them to the band and 3 chicks that wanted to get high. They were a few minutes late from their break and were absolutely DESTROYED when they came back in. I did cross both of my Hybrids with the Zamaldelica this past season. I will grow out the F1's this year. If Saturday night is any indication of things to come. I'm either on something or on to something! Thanks Dubi for the outstanding genetics. Peace

Thanks to you farmerlion for the feedback

I'm glad you are your friends are enjoying Zamaldelica, please keep us updated with the outcome of your hybrids!

 

[dubi]

what should i buy if im looking for the most lysergic effects?

Hi greenghost420,

If you are mainly looking for the most trippy and lysergic Zamaldelica phenos, then please feel free to pm me or email me, i have plenty of seeds from the older more Zamal/Thai influenced phenos, they are really very trippy and 'scary', they also have a very strong initial energetic rush, producing acceleration of mind process and thoughts, like taking too much coffee or other stimulators.

 

[dubi]

Hi THE_GOD,

I'm glad our sativas genetics are working fine there and showing desirable flowering traits.

I'm not an expert about this site, but you can easily upload pics by pressing 'Go Advanced' when posting, then 'Manage attachments' and select the desired pics, or by uploading the pics to your own person gallery at your profile or other external pic server and post the links here.

It will be a pleasure to see yours

 

[Tangwena]

Hi God that looks like its going to be a big fat cola when it matures, nice one mate
Tangwena

 

[Terpene]

Hi greenghost420,

If you are mainly looking for the most trippy and lysergic Zamaldelica phenos, then please feel free to pm me or email me, i have plenty of seeds from the older more Zamal/Thai influenced phenos, they are really very trippy and 'scary', they also have a very strong initial energetic rush, producing acceleration of mind process and thoughts, like taking too much coffee or other stimulators.

LOL sorry I got everyone interested in the electric-scary-spindly side of the original cross. Frankly, I don't know why people are seeking this one out so actively - I would rather have a positive / happy / trippy experience (2nd incarnation of Zamaldelica) than run around terrified 7 days a week, but what do I know?

Does this mean you're going to do a selection of "scarydelica"? I do not envy the smoking selection process!