identical to the one I harvested around the same time but alas I'm the one that didn't get away and unlike yours mine delivered not...
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Zamaldelica
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YukonKronic
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identical to the one I harvested around the same time but alas I'm the one that didn't get away and unlike yours mine delivered not...
Continue seeking thy spectre and it will come for is not the poet a prize for the muse as well?
Wow, this weed truely isn't for the faint of heart or weak-nerved...
*EDIT* Zamaldelica #2, semi auto, apparent zamal dominant
Buds have been curing for the better part of a month. Picture was taken at time of harvest.
Cracking open a jar lends to a earthy smell in the loosest way possible. It's not mossy, dirty or like humus... definitely more of a sweet earth. A fresh root veggie taken out of the ground and lightly scraped with your fingernail. Perhaps that's the carrot smell people speak of.
The smell of the growing flower was candied fruit.
Taste is similar to the jarred smell. Although, there is sometimes this incredibly sweet, candy taste. Rarely.
intoxication is deceptively kind and generous at lower doses.
Vision feels crisper, more detailed, brighter.
Tactile sensations are heightened to an enormous degree. No eerie or hallucinated sensations.
The best way to describe auditory sensations is muted, unless it's inches from my ear. Simply the weirdest thing ever.
Tastes are the same as baseline.
Thoughts are happy.
A bit later I tried kief and dried bud.
Here's where things get interesting...
mentally, a mindfuck.
Physically, I'm torn after indulging.
Feels like living on the knifes edge, so to speak. Body is tense, mind is terrifyingly alert. Thoughts come and go as they please, deciding to wreck havoc by way of panic and looped thoughts or brighten your day by the levity and goofiness. It's really a roll of the dice at higher doses and too similar, sans visuals, to other well known hallucinogens to be enjoyed regularly at those doses.
Sorry for the long windedness. Here's some of the nicer colas for y'all.
*EDIT* Zamaldelica #2, semi auto, apparent zamal dominant
Buds have been curing for the better part of a month. Picture was taken at time of harvest.
Cracking open a jar lends to a earthy smell in the loosest way possible. It's not mossy, dirty or like humus... definitely more of a sweet earth. A fresh root veggie taken out of the ground and lightly scraped with your fingernail. Perhaps that's the carrot smell people speak of.
The smell of the growing flower was candied fruit.
Taste is similar to the jarred smell. Although, there is sometimes this incredibly sweet, candy taste. Rarely.
intoxication is deceptively kind and generous at lower doses.
Vision feels crisper, more detailed, brighter.
Tactile sensations are heightened to an enormous degree. No eerie or hallucinated sensations.
The best way to describe auditory sensations is muted, unless it's inches from my ear. Simply the weirdest thing ever.
Tastes are the same as baseline.
Thoughts are happy.
A bit later I tried kief and dried bud.
Here's where things get interesting...
mentally, a mindfuck.
Physically, I'm torn after indulging.
Feels like living on the knifes edge, so to speak. Body is tense, mind is terrifyingly alert. Thoughts come and go as they please, deciding to wreck havoc by way of panic and looped thoughts or brighten your day by the levity and goofiness. It's really a roll of the dice at higher doses and too similar, sans visuals, to other well known hallucinogens to be enjoyed regularly at those doses.
Sorry for the long windedness. Here's some of the nicer colas for y'all.
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I forgot to mention that I like grab zamaldelica jars over others I have, simply because of the complexity and enjoyableness of zamaldelica.
Zam update
Zam update
Had like three days without rains, but rains just came back again...
Gonna move her to an outdoors, but covered spot to help her to finish.
Has developed a chemical overtone these latest three days, a kind of solvent/perfumey long chain aromatics "I'm dangerous" kind of smell.
Zam update
Had like three days without rains, but rains just came back again...
Gonna move her to an outdoors, but covered spot to help her to finish.
Has developed a chemical overtone these latest three days, a kind of solvent/perfumey long chain aromatics "I'm dangerous" kind of smell.
YukonKronic
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Ohhhh shit bro! Repuk the couple fuel phenotypes I had were really good! Very intense effect iirc...
hehehe, they are, aren't they?
I can't grumble though for I did have me fair share back in '14 when the muse was a prize for the poet...
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Nice cola
Can't wait to try again some from my Zamal/Thai pheno mother plant, but probably not before a while, so many strains to try before...
Can't wait to try again some from my Zamal/Thai pheno mother plant, but probably not before a while, so many strains to try before...
YukonKronic
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Curious what parents are? Is ZK Zam x Kush?
Looks nice.... I'm planning some pollen chucks with Zam soon and haven't learned much yet about her performance in Indica hybrids... just sativa and sativa dominated crosses so far.
Was contemplating ZamxBubba Kush PCK then pick Indy pheno and backross to Zam...
Also have solid plan and seeds on the way to do a Bruce Banner cross with Zam... kinda pretty innerested in that one
Looks nice.... I'm planning some pollen chucks with Zam soon and haven't learned much yet about her performance in Indica hybrids... just sativa and sativa dominated crosses so far.
Was contemplating ZamxBubba Kush PCK then pick Indy pheno and backross to Zam...
Also have solid plan and seeds on the way to do a Bruce Banner cross with Zam... kinda pretty innerested in that one
StrongTree
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]30 days since germination....potted up to 7 gal soil - in the meantime i just settle for mango lassi and carrot juice ! 
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YukonKronic
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]30 days since germination....potted up to 7 gal soil - in the meantime i just settle for mango lassi and carrot juice !
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Oohhhh is that some uneven Kraken branching I see? Keep an eye on how horizontally the branches come off mainstem... if it's just about perpendicular that's a good sign for Zamal structure I think. If the branches start growing quite unevenly and in weird sideways kind of directions that's another interesting trait. Not sure if it's more Zamal or Thai as both are known to grow unevenly but it's usually something interesting to me.
Stem rubs are telling too once you get to late veg. Carrot can be Malawi or Zamal but a floral kind of honey overlay on it is good sign for Zamaldelica elite as is pineapple. Chemmy kind of cleaner or petrol production smells oft point to Thai influence as well as ginger and lemongrass I believe... if you get fuel and ginger on a crazy Kraken structure you might find some methamphetaweed in there... be careful with those fukkers.
Looks good meng have fun while she's little cause I have a feeling she'll xplode on you soon!
YukonKronic
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Example: Kraken branching... kind of does a horizontal candelabra thing but with little/no symmetry. Skinny Thai leaves and mango ginger lemongrass with some fuel on the stem run. She goes at LEAST 4x stretch and needs constant training trimming and lollipoping to get buds concentrated into optimum sites. 9-10 weeks flower and it reeks of mango candy and flowers as it finishes. It also throws nanners at end of cycle (I think I've been over feeding her... never did dial this one all the way in) and has the most amazing trippy kind of shroomy reality warping high.
Edit: lol forgot to mention the godforsaken PIA autoflowering. Every time I take clones they have re-veg a bit and get trimmed and then NEVER rootbound until I throw into flowering box.
I'm curious: could you take advantage of that auto-flowering tendency by intentionally putting out vegging plants in late spring with too-small pots, so that they would flower early and produce an early crop, taking advantage of the long days of summer during late flowering under the sun's light?
If I were to try that process, could you suggest a pot size that would trigger autoflowering in, say a two-month-old clone or seedling? How do you predict that a given pot is too small and might trigger flowering?
I'm thinking about using that method in the spring to harvest two outdoor crops: Both crops set out in the late spring: the late crop goes into huge planters, and the early crop goes outside, but stays in their root-bound pots to trigger early flowering.
I'm thinking that would be a useful way to take advantage of the sun's free light, while harvesting two crops: first in maybe August, then again, much larger, in October. It would allow me to maximize my summertime production while staying within my plant count (no more than six in flower at a time).
If I could put out some root-bound Zamaldelicas in late spring and let them flower through July and August, I could harvest them just as the late crop starts into flower.
Sometimes I wonder whether it makes any sense to chase my tail dealing with silly plant limits, though, when there appears to be no practical enforcement mechanism. Besides, I liver Waaaaaay out in the country. I could grow hundreds of plants out in the open and nobody would ever see them without trespassing.
StrongTree
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thanks yukon !...i went and just had a closer look .... here is what i see based on your kind description ;
- she is very symmetrical at the moment.... petioles are aligned and all the lateral shoots are appearing as parallel pairs ....there are 5 pair of shoots and and the lead growth shoot....she sure is skinny and lean....but the vigor is obvious
stem rub is a bit peanutty... sorta reminds me of how sumac smells when you give it a rub...
StrongTree
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re: 4x stretch....i will look for every opportunity to trim and train...sounds like she should be knee high when i begin flower...i figured i will top it and try to grab a clone or three and try for 3 or 4 lead shoots....from the pics ive seen side branching looks plentiful
re: clones.... so you mean they root...but not very well as you veg it...is this the kraken pheno or all Zamal
YukonKronic
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Describing my "Kraken": that's really only an example of a very Zamal/Thai dominant pheno... you could even call it a throwback to the jungle. Most phenotypes of Zamaldelica are much more manageable and adapted to indoor growing. Including a more compact stretch.
I just like it cause it's neat and has a wicked tripper of a high... I'm mostly keeping it to play with pollen chucks in fact as I selected another phenotype with more GT bud structure to smoke on (also Kraken is too much lollipopping/training)
The semi autoflowers are easily found as soon as the plants rootball fills its pot the plant starts early flowering stage but doesn't progress into full flowering without additional environmental cues like long nights. I don't think they will be very useful for early outdoor harvest. I recommend ACEs auto Malawi x northern lights or one of this years new offerings when (if?) they are released. Farmerlion has been up to kewl shit with the Lebanese genetics too and finding their semi auto tendency to be beneficial so maybe with that as a start point you could prove me wrong about Zam usefulness in same context.
Clones root EXTREMELY well across all phenotypes of Zamaldelica I just meant that to get a properly vegged plant I had to up pot before roots circled on bottom of pot or filled their medium up. Otherwise the plant would sense obstruction to its roots and initiate its semi autoflower behaviour again.
I just like it cause it's neat and has a wicked tripper of a high... I'm mostly keeping it to play with pollen chucks in fact as I selected another phenotype with more GT bud structure to smoke on (also Kraken is too much lollipopping/training)
The semi autoflowers are easily found as soon as the plants rootball fills its pot the plant starts early flowering stage but doesn't progress into full flowering without additional environmental cues like long nights. I don't think they will be very useful for early outdoor harvest. I recommend ACEs auto Malawi x northern lights or one of this years new offerings when (if?) they are released. Farmerlion has been up to kewl shit with the Lebanese genetics too and finding their semi auto tendency to be beneficial so maybe with that as a start point you could prove me wrong about Zam usefulness in same context.
Clones root EXTREMELY well across all phenotypes of Zamaldelica I just meant that to get a properly vegged plant I had to up pot before roots circled on bottom of pot or filled their medium up. Otherwise the plant would sense obstruction to its roots and initiate its semi autoflower behaviour again.
