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YukonKronic

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Update on "mostly" Zam pollen chucking project



[Guatemalan x ZamaldelicaS1(Zamal/Thai:wild ass Zamal pheno) x Zamaldelica S1 (Zamal/Thai:Meo? Ultra frosty Trip pheno)]
 

YukonKronic

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Anyone curious about dominant traits in Zamaldelica can rest assured that her clear kinda reality shifting effect comes through in crosses as well as her vigour, root strength and cloning viability, and intense side branching. I have also found that she generally transferred at least some aspect of terpene profile primarily the floral and mango juice components.... I'm sure Dubi could elaborate more if anyone needed; I'm just speaking of what I've seen in a few pollen chucks.

The Guatemalan added sour,strawberry, and in another pheno lemon and woody terps. It also seems to have added (slightly) to vigour, yield; in side branches especially and girth/strength of stems while contributing a more "Americanized" structure with standard opposing phyllotaxy over Zamaldelicas alternate. Its effect has contributed a different sort of goofy cartoon trippyness to this cross and also a more "can't stop grinning" hilarity to soften the intensity of the Zamaldelica.
Power is not diminished but enhanced by this cross in my opinion.
 

YukonKronic

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Here's da wee toddlers again.... gave em a once over for pests today and they all had that mango berry stank I've been digging with this cross

 

Consolidated

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Hi all.
A Zam top in flower mode for about 11 weeks. Looks she 'll be ready till the end of October or 1st week of November imo...
Any suggestions and thought are more than welcome ...
And couple of pictures...
She is the most advanced in flowering from the 3 Zam which I have... I'll add some pictures and from the others when I have the chance.
Thanks guys anyway...
 

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OGEvilgenius

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I sent you a private message, in my rep to you, but I'd like to clarify more fully. Sativas are a completely different animal than indica or hybrids. They can be very fickle. I had a great plant once. It was the best weed I ever smoked. It took 18 weeks to ripen. I never let a plant go so long/ripe. It was because the buds were so small, I kept hoping they would explode in size at the very end. They didn't. One day they just looked done. I could not find a single white pistil, and all calyxes swelled. I still did not find any amber resins. I don't even think there were cloudy ones. The smoke was phenomenal. Mind blowing really. The first time after smoking it, I did not trust myself to drive. It was so trippy and I was not sure the high was not going to continue to increase even after the first hour. I was just getting higher and higher the whole time!

The next time I grew it, I got too tricky. Instead of going 12/12 light cycle for the entire 18 weeks, I dropped it to 11/12, then to 10/12. It shortened the ripening time to 16 weeks. It turned out to be hay. It wasn't worth smoking. I will never go lower than 11 hours of light while flowering again.

I had another sativa plant. It flowered it for 9 months! It never did stop throwing white pistils. I did get amber resins, and lots of them. The smoke was not very good. When I grow that strain again, I'll probably harvest it at 7 months because that is when the aroma turned to a incense/frankincense type of aroma which started to go away after a couple of weeks.

I think most of the growers on this thread are better indoor sativa growers than I am. I notice they let those buds get very ripe. indica hybrids are very forgiving with regard to ripeness. In fact, I prefer them harvested a touch early because I don't like "relaxing" or facial muscle drooping weed. To get the best out of a good sativa, or even anything worth smoking, one must learn how to grow it, which can be very different than other sativa plants. I've been growing for almost 50 years and I'm still learning. I think some of the popularity of indica hybrids is that they are so simple to grow. It is hard to mess them up.

Most people don't like to go into these explanations because it often causes disagreements. In fact, you may be more experienced than I'm assuming, and if that is the case, I apologize. :biggrin: I'm just trying to help. I wish someone helped me long before I accidentally stumbled into being a better sativa grower. Perhaps I just didn't listen well. I always need to know why, before I trust and just try. This may explain one reason for my long wind. Haha!

Another quick point. A long cure is very important to quality and potency. Some bud is just "meh" when you first sample it. Smoke it again 6 months later, and you can be surprised. I grew some Miss Universe last year. It was decent, but I decided it was not my style of high. I smoked it 6 months later, and it got much more cerebral. It still is not my best weed, IMHO, but it did get dramatically better.

ThaiBliss


I let them go a very long time. I allowed the trichromes to get amber. One took almost 20 weeks. I won't deny that there's likely selection required from these lines. But I have grown a number of long flowering hybrids like Killing Fields (14+wk phenos), Sugar Punch (found another 14wk) and some others as well. NLxHaze by MNS.

IMO all were superior to this in terms of the average plant. It is entirely possible there are elite plants to be found. I also know my own brain chemistry is different than most as lemon terps make me sleepy and a lot of terps do the opposite of what they do to others - just as an example as a lot of people find SLH racy I find it super sedative.

I grew out Purple Peyote. Good breeding stock. Not super potent.
 

Bona Fortuna

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Mine were older than that. It has been a couple of years.

If your seed stock comes from 2015, then there is a higher chance to find the 'wildness'.

These were much more intense in variety. Especially towards the Thai expressions.

I urge you to try the newer generations. I believe you will not be disappointed.
 

chronosync

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Greetings and salutations fellow zamaldelica enthusiasts and all heads alike!


Heres my two ZZ Tops (zamaldelica fem) at somewhere around 10-11 weeks


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OGEvilgenius

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If your seed stock comes from 2015, then there is a higher chance to find the 'wildness'.

These were much more intense in variety. Especially towards the Thai expressions.

I urge you to try the newer generations. I believe you will not be disappointed.


Yes, part of me felt like I was getting some pheno variation. I wish I had bought the fems instead. Maybe another time. I have been offered some interesting positions potentially in this new legal framework we have going up here. I may be in a position to do interesting things. My #1 project is probably to get Tom Hill's Haze back in seed form.
 

deepwaterdude

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Zam Oct 12 - stinky and gorgeous

Zam Oct 12 - stinky and gorgeous

Very nice indoor donks, chronosync:tiphat:

We are going to have snow on Oct 15 with nighttime lows of 21f so she may get wrestled inside as I've got a big, almost empty tent. She's been doing pretty well with nights around freezing. Looks like a smaller version of maybe consolidated's Zam at 11 weeks?
deew
 

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chronosync

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Thank you kindly :tiphat:
damn thats cold already!

good luck with yr plants, getting cold as fuxk around here too


They look great! hangin' tough in the cold, its pretty amazing seeing a equatorial sativa shrug off the cold like that and more proof of how lively this breed is, nice work my friend.
 

YukonKronic

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Very nice indoor donks, chronosync:tiphat:

We are going to have snow on Oct 15 with nighttime lows of 21f so she may get wrestled inside as I've got a big, almost empty tent. She's been doing pretty well with nights around freezing. Looks like a smaller version of maybe consolidated's Zam at 11 weeks?
deew

Doooood weirrrrrd your weather is similar to ours right now! Lol I like global warming a little bit sometimes I guess.... no fun that you can say your having Yukon sorta weather tho! At least you prolly won't hit -40C this Christmas :biggrin:
 

deepwaterdude

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Doooood weirrrrrd your weather is similar to ours right now! Lol I like global warming a little bit sometimes I guess.... no fun that you can say your having Yukon sorta weather tho! At least you prolly won't hit -40C this Christmas :biggrin:

Yep, it's nipply around here. The last 2 nights went down to low twenties, and, because I lazed out on bringing ZAmaldelica in, I found her covered in snow monday morning;) Pretty funny. No black leaves or plant parts, and a nice, sunny day today, so she'll keep going til end October outside, now the worst has passed. ANd HEEELLL no, no minus 40 C around here;) Gets to -20C sometimes though. Tad below 0 farenheit.
 

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