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Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

gaiusmarius

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to be honest i feel her claims are just too outlandish to be credible. if she was really up against a bunch of powerful, elite, ruthless, scientific, criminals, she would be dead and burried not talking to youtbe content creators. first time i saw it i was like hm, but when she claims they weaponized ebola or what ever its too strange. some times their is some grain of truth in such peoples stories, but most of it seems to be sensetionalism to get her book sold. i think Faucci will sue her for libel and defamation, at least youd think he would.
 

unclefishstick

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read an article this morning that debunked the video point by point...on a science website..i will try and find it...that was this morning before a 60 mile bike ride so shits a bit fuzzy right now!
 

gaiusmarius

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Im confused now ? are you trying to convince yourself or others ?

Zubin Damania is an actor/ comedian , with his head so far up his own arse and offers no actual explanation, the only thing he looks like he's might be good at is being fag.

isn't it a bit too strange to be involved in so much conspiracy, ie the isolating hiv from french samples, the weaponizing ebola, and now she is the only one to discover that covid is man made? but we never heard of her before? as i said before why leave her alive to tell her story if she really helped to make ebola effect humans?
 

Cheesegez

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read an article this morning that debunked the video point by point...on a science website..i will try and find it...that was this morning before a 60 mile bike ride so shits a bit fuzzy right now!

See this is it , this is what people need to see to make them feel better...

Every single theory that talks out of the societal norm has been officially debunked , every single one of them...

that doesn't mean that its all lies, its means there could be potential conflict of interest so the theory needs to be put to bed..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6NmjK2pgiQ

with enough money anything can be debunked or refuted...
 

Klompen

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to be honest i feel her claims are just too outlandish to be credible. if she was really up against a bunch of powerful, elite, ruthless, scientific, criminals, she would be dead and burried not talking to youtbe content creators. first time i saw it i was like hm, but when she claims they weaponized ebola or what ever its too strange. some times their is some grain of truth in such peoples stories, but most of it seems to be sensetionalism to get her book sold. i think Faucci will sue her for libel and defamation, at least youd think he would.

Fauci desperately needs people to think his guilt is just in our imaginations. It makes sense to either use or focus on low credibility sources to represent his critics. Even if she is not in on some staged plan to discredit his detractors, it sure seems like she is filling that role nicely.
 

Cheesegez

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isn't it a bit too strange to be involved in so much conspiracy, ie the isolating hiv from french samples, the weaponizing ebola, and now she is the only one to discover that covid is man made? but we never heard of her before? as i said before why leave her alive to tell her story if she really helped to make ebola effect humans?

Strange ? Maybe , but what she is saying does make a lot of sense. she's certainly a pioneer in her field to be in that position in the first place, so she is credible.

The isolation of HIV is interesting because if you look at the financial mechanics of viral patents you patent a genetic sequence that has a function. But you also potentially patent the vaccine because most vaccines are made from the attenuated virus and therefore patent royalties apply.. usually by following the paper trail you find the answers

As for ebola , I mean yer its plausible she states that she had to teach it to infect humans thats exactly what you would have to do..

it uses the same glycoprotein for viral fusion as HIV, SARs and Ebola , thats not out of chance.. thats identifying a good binding mechanism and using it to your ability.

They can't kill everyone , here in the UK they just discredit you and pin false charges on, look at the story of David Noakes..

He was using a human protein GCMAF to cure cancer and it worked , they shut him down and threw him in prison and deported his wife to France breaching the European extradition treaty... thats where she sits to this day , she's 70 and sitting in a French prison because they where curing cancers in their clinic..

as far fetched as things might sound , she is plausible and why make all that shit up for no reason?? it doesn't make any sense

All the biowarfare labs around the world aren't playing with play-doh, this is what they do unfortunately

:tiphat:
 

unclefishstick

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yeah,i probably should have warned people who have fact allergies...i hope they have their cyber-epi pens ready! if not i'm sure their moms are right upstairs from the basement!
 

geneva_sativa

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What was very telling to me was the swiftness and scope of the banning and damage-control, public relations campaigns that were rolled out
 

Chimera

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Pathways to zoonotic spillover
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5791534/

It's funny, the only reference you see to zoonotic transmission being relegated to some long timeline "window" is Judy Mikovits.

Rather than reading the science from the multitude of experts from all over the world, they accept the squawking of one crazy lady on a nicely edited video. It's bizarre.

I realize were not going to change anybody's mind here, most have their's made up.

At least there's a trail of real science based info for any who happen along the path.
 

Cheesegez

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yeah,i probably should have warned people who have fact allergies...i hope they have their cyber-epi pens ready! if not i'm sure their moms are right upstairs from the basement!

There no real facts on that link..

"She became a scientist and obtained a Ph.D. in biochemistry and molecular biology from George Washington University in 1991"- does this not prove criedibilty to an extent?

and the consistent term "no evidence" under her quotes which in context doesn't really debunk anything...

look man, read it!!

"At the time of HIV’s discovery, Mikovits was a lab technician in Francis Ruscetti’s lab at NCI and had yet to receive her Ph.D. There is no evidence that she was part of the team that first isolated the virus. Her first published paper, co-authored with Ruscetti, was on HIV and published in May 1986, 2 years after Science published four landmark papers that linked HIV (then called HTLV-III by Gallo’s lab) to AIDS. Ruscetti’s first paper on HIV appeared in August 1985. There is no evidence that Fauci held up either paper or that this led to the death of millions."

you'd honestly expect to see evidence ? come on really? - you've seen a witness testimony to tell you otherwise ?

Scientific estimates suggest the closest virus to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is a bat coronavirus identified by the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Its “distance” in evolutionary time to SARS-CoV-2 is about 20 to 80 years. There is no evidence this bat virus was manipulated.

off course theres no genetic evidence we've already been through this..

You can manipulate genes without leaving signatures, that’s the beauty of it ./


put down your cyber-epi pen fella and read a little about the "facts" you post :tiphat:
 

Cheesegez

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Pathways to zoonotic spillover
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5791534/

It's funny, the only reference you see to zoonotic transmission being relegated to some long timeline "window" is Judy Mikovits.

Rather than reading the science from the multitude of experts from all over the world, they accept the squawking of one crazy lady on a nicely edited video. It's bizarre.

I realize were not going to change anybody's mind here, most have their's made up.

At least there's a trail of real science based info for any who happen along the path.


can I ask what would it take to change your mind chimera ? like what do you actually think the whole sector of synthetic virology is actually about ? do you not think that we can make viruses infect humans ?
 

Chimera

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I'm sure we can.

But that's not the point... the point I am making is that Judy Mikovits is a loon. There are so many just incorrect things she says, I can't give her any credence. Her past, her getting caught up in all these lies stories... it's just way too much of a red flag.

Can we make viruses similar to corona? I'm sure we could, they aren't complicated, 29800 basepairs is not that much to handle.

As I'm sure you know Shi Zengli's team did a whole bunch of different types of work with corona viruses & experiments looking at how different components of the virus interact with the human immune system & cellular machinery.

Truth is, this virus isn't a great match for us; it could be much more lethal because the S-spike protein isn't optimized to bind human ACE-2.

That's expected with a zoonotic event, that the virus hasn't been in the species long enough for positive selection towards the right lock/key.

Don't get me wrong Cheesgez, I'm not ruling out the possibility of escape from a lab. The bioweapon angle to me is a stretch, but accidental release is possible.

I don't see the signs of bio-engineering some do in fact I see signs of nature's imperfection, which a weapon designer would not build into a killing machine.

But the thing that lab theory lacks is any degree of concrete evidence at all. It's just a bunch of circumstantial theory.

The zoonotic theory btw doesn't have great evidence either- it has some, but you'd be right to see that evidence isn't perfect either. What it does have is mountains and mountains of evidence of past zoonotic events, which support it's likeliness (again, parsimony).

I think we differ in the way we look at zoonotic transmission, and that is probably the major chasm between you and I.

It's likely, with how authoritarian Chinese government has clamped down on examining the origins of the virus is a mistake, that we won't get an answer either way, and to be honest I think that plays out in the CCP's favour. We can see from social media how other world governments are using social media manipulations to sow confusion right now. Any country that can sow enough discord in a society right now will only increase the spread of the virus, and that's obviously happening in some places. It's war using the ignorant to spread the pandemic even further. The second peak is coming once things start to open back up again, give it about 2 weeks for the flames to start showing.
 

Cheesegez

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I'm sure we can.

But that's not the point... the point I am making is that Judy Mikovits is a loon. There are so many just incorrect things she says, I can't give her any credence. Her past, her getting caught up in all these lies stories... it's just way too much of a red flag.

Can we make viruses similar to corona? I'm sure we could, they aren't complicated, 29800 basepairs is not that much to handle.

As I'm sure you know Shi Zengli's team did a whole bunch of different types of work with corona viruses & experiments looking at how different components of the virus interact with the human immune system & cellular machinery.

Truth is, this virus isn't a great match for us; it could be much more lethal because the S-spike protein isn't optimized to bind human ACE-2.

That's expected with a zoonotic event, that the virus hasn't been in the species long enough for positive selection towards the right lock/key.

Don't get me wrong Cheesgez, I'm not ruling out the possibility of escape from a lab. The bioweapon angle to me is a stretch, but accidental release is possible.

I don't see the signs of bio-engineering some do in fact I see signs of nature's imperfection, which a weapon designer would not build into a killing machine.

But the thing that lab theory lacks is any degree of concrete evidence at all. It's just a bunch of circumstantial theory.

The zoonotic theory btw doesn't have great evidence either- it has some, but you'd be right to see that evidence isn't perfect either. What it does have is mountains and mountains of evidence of past zoonotic events, which support it's likeliness (again, parsimony).

I think we differ in the way we look at zoonotic transmission, and that is probably the major chasm between you and I.

It's likely, with how authoritarian Chinese government has clamped down on examining the origins of the virus is a mistake, that we won't get an answer either way, and to be honest I think that plays out in the CCP's favour. We can see from social media how other world governments are using social media manipulations to sow confusion right now. Any country that can sow enough discord in a society right now will only increase the spread of the virus, and that's obviously happening in some places. It's war using the ignorant to spread the pandemic even further. The second peak is coming once things start to open back up again, give it about 2 weeks for the flames to start showing.


Fair enough , I do agree that this isnt a good match for us and yes could be fair more lethal without a doubt.. but thats only if your goal is to kill as many people as possible and thats obviously not the intensions here ..

I mean I do believe there an agenda to control the population numbers , and like ive stated before we have used viruses to control animal populations so is it really that far fetched ? maybe? maybe not..

Governments do have this problem , we are hugely over populated and the numbers since recently or maybe still are increasing.. so to me it plausible that the numbers can be controlled through viruses and vaccinations. and the only reason I say vaccinations is because they have found HCG in them.

"hCG causes pregnancy hormones to be attacked by the immune system. Expected results are abortions in females already pregnant and/or infertility in recipients not yet impregnated. Repeated inoculations prolong infertility."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320641479_HCG_Found_in_WHO_Tetanus_Vaccine_in_Kenya_Raises_Concern_in_the_Developing_World

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/ethical-questions-surround-vaccine-reduce-fertility

I mean you must be able to see why im skeptical about vaccines , not the principles but the content..
 

Dropped Cat

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Do you have any comments on this?





There is Sahelanthropus tchadensis, which is some 6 or 7 million years old.
Then there is Ardipithecus ramidus, which is 4.5 million years old.
We also have Homo rudolfensis, at 2.5 million years old. Australopithecus sediba,1.9 million years.
Homo erectus, Homo floresiensis, Homo habilis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis.

The term “missing link” seems to imply that there is a problem in evolution,
like there is some key bit of information that we are missing,
like there is some grand gap in the historical record that throws the theory of evolution into doubt.

This is not the case.

In an 1850’s publication, upon noting an incomplete fossil record when looking a the Cretaceous period,
Charles Lyell called it, “a break in the chain implying no doubt many missing links in the series of
geological monuments which we may some day be able to supply.”
Of course, Lyell wasn’t saying this as though there is some huge gap,
some great missing connective tissue that throws the theory of evolution into chaos,
because evolution wasn’t even a proposition yet

(Darwin didn’t publish until 1859 and Lyell made his statements in 1851).

Thus, the idea of the “missing link” predates the theory of evolution.

The idea of the missing link stems from the religious notion that all life sits on a ladder
with man at the very top. And at the time, there was something to be said about “missing links,”
as there were no fossils that we’d found exhibiting the transition between humans and non-humans.

One does not need billions and billions of transitional forms and predecessors to see that
the theory of evolution is sound. All the evidence that we have matches what we observe today,
and the theory perfectly coincides with every bit of evidence that we have from the fossil record.


But I digress.


We all are experiencing the effects of a naturally occurring event,
accelerated by a most unnatural genesis spawned at the wet markets in Wuhan, etc.

Yes, I am a credentialed bio engineer, whose input is eagerly accepted at high levels
of many countries. I'm also trained in the decoding algorithms of social media outlets.

Something I deem as a necessity to offset the rise of persistent misinformation campaigns
carelessly, and often purposefully, thrust upon unwitting souls to sway public opinion.

This website is highlighted as one of many known matrices of public discourse manipulation.
My presence here posting such information is a no no, but it's my choice, and at moderate personal risk.

Y'all may think it's a game, and to the uninitiated it seems so, but with hope and perseverance good will prevail.

That is my two cents.


And I grow pot discreetly too, lol.
 

Chimera

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but thats only if your goal is to kill as many people as possible and thats obviously not the intensions here ..

What intentions? The virus has intentions? Any intentions ascribed would be done in the absence of any evidence, inother words speculation. Is there a known intention I have missed the announcement of?


I mean I do believe there an agenda to control the population numbers , and like ive stated before we have used viruses to control animal populations so is it really that far fetched ? maybe? maybe not..

The world is overpopulated, I agree with you there. Is there a global conspiracy to reduce the population? Aside from the movement to open back up and increase the spread of the virus?

Again, the evidence is circumstantial, but possible I guess but without any provable facts my mind doesn't go there.
 

mexcurandero420

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Marburg virus was first recognized in 1967, when outbreaks of hemorrhagic fever occurred simultaneously in laboratories in Marburg and Frankfurt, Germany and in Belgrade, Yugoslavia (now Serbia). Thirty-one people became ill, initially laboratory workers followed by several medical personnel and family members who had cared for them. Seven deaths were reported. The first people infected had been exposed to imported African green monkeys or their tissues while conducting research. One additional case was diagnosed retrospectively.

The reservoir host of Marburg virus is the African fruit bat, Rousettus aegyptiacus. Fruit bats infected with Marburg virus do not to show obvious signs of illness. Primates (including humans) can become infected with Marburg virus, and may develop serious disease with high mortality. Further study is needed to determine if other species may also host the virus.

From the website of the cdc.
 

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