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Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

geneva_sativa

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For those that are willing to look at content not directly funded by the Bill end Melinda Gates Foundation,,,

Corbett Report --- Bill Gates' Plan to Vaccinate the World --- 28 minutes

really good info from 16:40 onwards,,, but worth watching from beginning to see in his own words

https://youtu.be/o7A_cMpKm6w
 

Klompen

Active member
The world is overpopulated, I agree with you there. Is there a global conspiracy to reduce the population? Aside from the movement to open back up and increase the spread of the virus?

Again, the evidence is circumstantial, but possible I guess but without any provable facts my mind doesn't go there.

Have you read about the history of eugenics? Its even still a thing these days, but its been rebranded like how Amway became Quixtar. There have definitely been crazy plans to reduce the general population that focused on all sorts of wild approaches ranging from mass forced sterilization to putting birth control drugs in the water supply. Of course wild plans do not a conspiracy make.

All that said, the virus as a weapon is a really hard position to both prove or explain logically. The two countries who were working together to do the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan CDC lab were the US and China. Both of those countries did not need this to happen. Does anyone think Trump wanted to be remembered as the president who saw the economy crash as he bungled the response to a pandemic? He has too much ego for that. Over in China, president-for-life Winnie the Pooh also really doesn't want to lose status with the public and end up at the receiving end of a billion peoples' anger. It truly makes no sense that either country would do this on purpose. I do think they did it by accident though, and that they did it together. That's a big part of what makes all this China-vs-US stuff going on right now so dumb.
 

gaiusmarius

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There is Sahelanthropus tchadensis, which is some 6 or 7 million years old.
Then there is Ardipithecus ramidus, which is 4.5 million years old.
We also have Homo rudolfensis, at 2.5 million years old. Australopithecus sediba,1.9 million years.
Homo erectus, Homo floresiensis, Homo habilis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo neanderthalensis.

The term “missing link” seems to imply that there is a problem in evolution,
like there is some key bit of information that we are missing,
like there is some grand gap in the historical record that throws the theory of evolution into doubt.

This is not the case.

In an 1850’s publication, upon noting an incomplete fossil record when looking a the Cretaceous period,
Charles Lyell called it, “a break in the chain implying no doubt many missing links in the series of
geological monuments which we may some day be able to supply.”
Of course, Lyell wasn’t saying this as though there is some huge gap,
some great missing connective tissue that throws the theory of evolution into chaos,
because evolution wasn’t even a proposition yet

(Darwin didn’t publish until 1859 and Lyell made his statements in 1851).

Thus, the idea of the “missing link” predates the theory of evolution.

The idea of the missing link stems from the religious notion that all life sits on a ladder
with man at the very top. And at the time, there was something to be said about “missing links,”
as there were no fossils that we’d found exhibiting the transition between humans and non-humans.

One does not need billions and billions of transitional forms and predecessors to see that
the theory of evolution is sound. All the evidence that we have matches what we observe today,
and the theory perfectly coincides with every bit of evidence that we have from the fossil record.


But I digress.


We all are experiencing the effects of a naturally occurring event,
accelerated by a most unnatural genesis spawned at the wet markets in Wuhan, etc.

Yes, I am a credentialed bio engineer, whose input is eagerly accepted at high levels
of many countries. I'm also trained in the decoding algorithms of social media outlets.

Something I deem as a necessity to offset the rise of persistent misinformation campaigns
carelessly, and often purposefully, thrust upon unwitting souls to sway public opinion.

This website is highlighted as one of many known matrices of public discourse manipulation.
My presence here posting such information is a no no, but it's my choice, and at moderate personal risk.


Y'all may think it's a game, and to the uninitiated it seems so, but with hope and perseverance good will prevail.

That is my two cents.


And I grow pot discreetly too, lol.

huh? highlighted by whom may i ask? you seriously expect me to believ this little corrner of the web is even a blip on the information matrix of the web as a whole.

its cool to think im talking to some high level governmental advisor, nice to have you joining in the bantter.

seems to me, even you don't really know whether this virus started in the wuhan farmersmarket, or accidentally got out of the bioweapons lab nearby that was actually researching these exact viruses. if that research wasn't going on at that lab it would be easier to believe some random event being at fault. but bat lady and that lab are strong circumstantial evidence. even the fact that the virus has natural mutation in it doesn't nagate the possiblity that the natural virus was changed slightly somehow to make it better able to make the species leap.

edited to add: we know they do these things to be able to study it and also to make vaccines against it. not saying the added the ability to leap species with bad motivations, just that once done it presents a danger, the US actually disallowed this kind of experimentation and research where you give viruses abilities like crossing species, or make them more lethat or contagious. the motive is that they need to know about this stuff to be able to defend against it better.
 
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gaiusmarius

me
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Have you read about the history of eugenics? Its even still a thing these days, but its been rebranded like how Amway became Quixtar. There have definitely been crazy plans to reduce the general population that focused on all sorts of wild approaches ranging from mass forced sterilization to putting birth control drugs in the water supply. Of course wild plans do not a conspiracy make.

All that said, the virus as a weapon is a really hard position to both prove or explain logically. The two countries who were working together to do the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan CDC lab were the US and China. Both of those countries did not need this to happen. Does anyone think Trump wanted to be remembered as the president who saw the economy crash as he bungled the response to a pandemic? He has too much ego for that. Over in China, president-for-life Winnie the Pooh also really doesn't want to lose status with the public and end up at the receiving end of a billion peoples' anger. It truly makes no sense that either country would do this on purpose. I do think they did it by accident though, and that they did it together. That's a big part of what makes all this China-vs-US stuff going on right now so dumb.

yes thats strong evidence that it was not on purpose to reduce population. its not reducing population in any significant way anyway, so i agree we can discount that one. but when you play around with deadly shit day for day month for month and year for year you will fuck up sooner or later, it's only a question of how bad. no human can never make a mistake, included the smartest fucks in the world working at that lab.
 

troutman

Seed Whore
There's no way to control bioweapons once released. Nobody is that good. With the travel people can
do a bioweapon could be on the other side of the planet within a day infecting unforeseen victims.
 

Chimera

Genetic Resource Management
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Found & watched the Mikovits show

Now I know where all the experts that use the words "accelerated evolution" went to clown college.

I mean if you're muppet sheep, I can see where the appeal comes from, it you were completely uninformed, I could see the vid swaying an uncritical eye.

But then after watching that video, to become a disciple, and run around the internet posting this garbage as fact?

Seriously what is wrong with some of you people. Lay off the high THC cannabis, it's making you paranoid.
 

Klompen

Active member
For those of you with more genetics knowledge: I would like to get your thoughts on the cross-species virility of this virus. How likely is it that its not only in a few pets and zoo tigers, but in fact is in cattle, poultry, swine, and even wild animals? It seems to me like this virus jumps species abnormally easily. So how big a threat is zoonosis on this one? Could it lead to dozens of parallel variants of this disease running in multiple species and potentially any one of them reemerging at some unexpected point?

One other question as well: Could gain-of-function work be done in a manner that appears natural? Obviously if they used CRISPR or some other gene editing technique it would be clear, but what about them just breeding the virus and selecting it for specific qualities? Would that even show up in an evaluation? Has anyone compared to the current strains with natural versions from the same source?
 

CosmicGiggle

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There's no way to control bioweapons once released. Nobody is that good. With the travel people can
do a bioweapon could be on the other side of the planet within a day infecting unforeseen victims.

It's interesting that in the recent and semi-recent past, high-level researchers (who should have know better) have confessed or been caught carrying around vials of pathogens in their shirt pockets as they traveled from labs/conferences around the world.

...... and I worked in the field in 1966, in charge of keeping the refrigerated pathogens alive when a colleague accidentally dropped a glass tube of antibiotic resistant Staph Aureus and my highly-trained, brilliant boss carefully and delicately picked up the glass shards with her fingers and ended up in the hospital for 3 months before the amputation.

........... look at the 9/11 Anthrax scare, possibly let out by a looney working at a bio-weapons lab in Maryland, a prime example.

All scientific DNA evidence points to this Wuhan virus as being from nature and not a lab creation, but it's not at all inconceivable that something could get out somewhere, somehow, sometime in the future.:tiphat:
 

troutman

Seed Whore
^^^ You would think a rubber lined floor or something like that would be good to have when dealing with glass tubes to avoid breakage?
 

Cheesegez

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What intentions? The virus has intentions? Any intentions ascribed would be done in the absence of any evidence, inother words speculation. Is there a known intention I have missed the announcement of?




The world is overpopulated, I agree with you there. Is there a global conspiracy to reduce the population? Aside from the movement to open back up and increase the spread of the virus?

Again, the evidence is circumstantial, but possible I guess but without any provable facts my mind doesn't go there.

I saying if you assume it was man made , and you wanted to make it more lethal, it would be pretty easy to achieve..its clearly not the deadliest of viruses , at least it doesn't hijack the macrophages like HIV

thats it , I don't think we will ever know the truth so we can only speculate.

having said that a motive always makes things more viable.
 

Cheesegez

Well-known member
For those of you with more genetics knowledge: I would like to get your thoughts on the cross-species virility of this virus. How likely is it that its not only in a few pets and zoo tigers, but in fact is in cattle, poultry, swine, and even wild animals? It seems to me like this virus jumps species abnormally easily. So how big a threat is zoonosis on this one? Could it lead to dozens of parallel variants of this disease running in multiple species and potentially any one of them reemerging at some unexpected point?

Thats quite a hard question to answer, the host cells similarities would play a huge part in the likelihood of a crossover.. although there are many more factors that play a part in species crossover. But if viral evolution was so fast we would also see viruses render themselves inactive..

"Mutations can be deleterious, neutral, or occasionally favorable. Only mutations that do not interfere with essential virus functions can persist in a virus population."

if a mutation occurs that alters the receptor make up of a virus it would inhibit the ability to infect new cells, therefore erasing itself..

why are we not seeing this ? I think a lot of people don't understand the word mutation--well its sometimes cancer within our cells !

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8439/

One other question as well: Could gain-of-function work be done in a manner that appears natural? Obviously if they used CRISPR or some other gene editing technique it would be clear, but what about them just breeding the virus and selecting it for specific qualities? Would that even show up in an evaluation? Has anyone compared to the current strains with natural versions from the same source?

CRISPR is amazing technology, we can alter genes without leaving any evidence of wether it was natural or inserted by man..the precession of CRISPR means we can alter pretty much anything, but its not being used to its full potential, and while the big pharmaceutical are still around probably never will be, commercially.

so when comparing genome sequence data , all you would see is a slight change in the in the nucleotide makeup. You wouldn't have no way of determining if what your looking it is a natural occurrence or not..

this is beauty of bio weapons in general though,,

1.They leave no trace of true origin
2.They are completely stealth , and invisible to the eye
3.They cause no damage to the earth or structures
4.they can target specific age ranges -'The expression of ACE2 increases with age'
5.you can protect the people you want with vaccinations / no biological spillover
6.you can tell everyone it came from bats because the of pathetic amount of research on zoonotic transmission..

you don't have to be a weapons expert to recognise the benefits..

im not saying this is a bio-weapon for a fact , but they do exist just like nuclear weapons but offer far more benefits ..
 
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mexcurandero420

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I saying if you assume it was man made , and you wanted to make it more lethal, it would be pretty easy to achieve..its clearly not the deadliest of viruses , at least it doesn't hijack the macrophages like HIV

thats it , I don't think we will ever know the truth so we can only speculate.

having said that a motive always makes things more viable.

According to Dr.Hakim Djaballah this virus can operate under the radar.He don't think this virus is from the Wuhan virus lab.

[YOUTUBEIF]JF0fAWNwuX4[/YOUTUBEIF]
 
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Just wait until a genetically engineered virus is released to target specific segments of the human genome as in Whites, Asians, African or Hispanic etc.
 

Cheesegez

Well-known member
According to Dr.Hakim Djaballah this virus can operate under the radar.He don't think this virus is from the Wuhan virus lab.

[YOUTUBEIF]JF0fAWNwuX4[/YOUTUBEIF]

Thats why he is still a doctor and I never suggested it was from the wuhan labs, interesting though he refers to hydroxychloroquine...hes taking baby steps
 

Cheesegez

Well-known member
Just wait until a genetically engineered virus is released to target specific segments of the human genome as in Whites, Asians, African or Hispanic etc.

yep thats the next thing, I did try looking into individual race cell biology and if it is visible ,but little has been released as of yet :tiphat:
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
So what percentage of Neanderthal or Clovis in your genome is safe?

If you target race, we're all dead. Now if you can give the virus GPS coordinates then you've got something.
 

gaiusmarius

me
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they have been reporting that this virus is killing more black and latinos then anyone else. but thats probably because they have worse health care or some thing like that connected to poverty rather then race.
 

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