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Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

nomaad

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oh yeah. i'm hugely embarrassed. doesn't it show? "greedy" is one thing that just won't stick, bro. i have organized more than $20K(wholesale cost, value at the dispensary end will be more like $50K) in free meds for needy users this season. by next year it will be double. that 50K is damn close to what I will earn for the last 6 months of work.

what have you done for needy users besides whine?
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
There will always be the ppl that make money off of the sick . It's up to the sick to see through the BULLSHIT and do their own grows and stop getting RIPPED off by greedy fucks like this peace out Headband707


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nomaad

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you, too... H707. let's hear all about your good works to help patients in need. the whining is getting real old.
 

zenoonez

Active member
Veteran
well ican see why you want this thread to die
and let the word slip out that growers support price
gouging medical pot users...

too embarrassed over your greedy ways...nomaad...nephilthim????


pot is 1.5 times cheaper on the street than it is in the
dispensary here ...

if normal would get on obama case to get the dea to change
pot from a schedule 1 to a schedule 2 drug....medical
pot could then be sold...i believe... in any drugstore in
the country with a simple dr script ...regardless of state
laws....as 100% thc caps or 100% thc hash

peace
als83

Price gouging? Do you ever have any idea what you are talking about? The general going price for bud from a grower to a dispensary is about half of what the dispensary sells it for. Retailers typically sell products for double what they bought it for. This is what pays their salary, their overhead, their legal protection. Is Wal Mart price gouging? Is Costco? Is Burger King? Are any of the other hundreds of thousands of businesses? As to your hope that it gets dealt by pharmacists there is no need. Pharmacists oversee drug distribution generally because there are complications that may result from mixing them. I for one have never heard of anyone dying from smoking and taking a pain pill.
 

zenoonez

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There will always be the ppl that make money off of the sick . It's up to the sick to see through the BULLSHIT and do their own grows and stop getting RIPPED off by greedy fucks like this peace out Headband707


Guiltyness By: Mr Cheeks and Marley's kid .download it

Do you say the same thing to hungry people that go out to dinner to pay 12 dollars for a chicken breast?
 
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TheMintMan

Ever been to a hydroponics store? Just for shits and gig's if you haven't done this go to a local hydro shop and put together a price list for everything it takes for a primo indoor setup- Top shelf nutes, lights, fans, climate control system, etc. It costs a pretty penny to produce consistent high quality indoor product. THAT is why it is so expensive. The fact that a store owner is going to mark up whatever he/she is selling should be a given...we do live in a so-called-capitalist society folks.
 

Hydrosun

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Ever been to a hydroponics store? Just for shits and gig's if you haven't done this go to a local hydro shop and put together a price list for everything it takes for a primo indoor setup- Top shelf nutes, lights, fans, climate control system, etc. It costs a pretty penny to produce consistent high quality indoor product. THAT is why it is so expensive. The fact that a store owner is going to mark up whatever he/she is selling should be a given...we do live in a so-called-capitalist society folks.

:yeahthats Pureknowledge put together such a list in THIS thread and was mocked. Some of the prices he listed were quit reasonable; but your point is well taken it costs A LOT to produce this amazing flower, however it is free to bitch and complain and if you produce NOTHING you can feel entitled to have others GIVE it to you (looking at you ALS ;) )

Peace, :joint:
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
Do you say the same thing to hungry people that go out to dinner to pay 12 dollars for a chicken breast?

Well we could argue about this all fucking day and night and still never agree .. You say things like is Walmart or the other stores ripping ppl off fuck yeah have you ever been a buyer for stores do you know the mark up ?. Then you go on about your overhead fuck sakes it's not that high and if it is I got an idea bring it down and knock it off with this shit!!!!! I have seen your clubs they look like spa's lol it's a bit much I would rather pay for pot and not that building just my opinion. And you wonder why your overhead is high lol peace out Headband707:joint:
 

nomaad

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H707: you have no idea what you're talking about, do you? if there were an ICMag award for fallacious arguments (its should be a steaming turd icon next to your avatar) you would win it. hands down.

no economic system has ever produced and distributed a product more cheaply than walmart. I am not advocating this paradigm because I disagree with it on many other levels, but your idea that walmart is charging an unfair price to the consumer is utterly absurd. they may be paying an unfair wage to their employees or using slave labor abroad to keep prices down, but never before has an economy of such scale been able to survive on such a small per-item markup.

Mom and Pops usually charge a much higher markup because their costs are higher. 50-75% is the worldwide standard for markup. Walmart may be able to do it for around 30% because of cutting costs in other nefarious ways.

Point is, we are not actually arguing about anything all day long. In a constructive argument or debate, both sides respond directly to the other with cogent remarks. You, however, have not done this once. All of your arguments are fallacious and you come off as nothing but a whining weasel.

I'm not even a capitalist (though I am a realist living in a capitalist world). You claim to advocate some economic ideas that I believe in but are so unbelievably bad at supporting those ideas... you're an embarrassment.
 

zenoonez

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Lolz nomaad. Really. I loled hard at that. I thought I was fairly blunt sometimes but that takes the cake man.
 
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Blue Dot

Ever been to a hydroponics store? Just for shits and gig's if you haven't done this go to a local hydro shop and put together a price list for everything it takes for a primo indoor setup- Top shelf nutes, lights, fans, climate control system, etc. It costs a pretty penny to produce consistent high quality indoor product. THAT is why it is so expensive.


That's a ONE TIME expense. Nutes and bulbs thereafter aren't that much.

I guess you've never heard of the word Amortization. Fortunately every other business has.
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

Licensed Grower
ICMag Donor
Veteran
This thread will never end. A large percentage of IC mag users have made some kind of profit of their yield, nothing wrong with making money folks. I do sympathize with patients who are truly in need of good medicine who cannot afford it, however most here complaining here about prices are just on the wrong side of the currency exchange. If you can't beat em, join em! Dollar Dollar bill yaaaawwww
 

als83

Member
Ever been to a hydroponics store? Just for shits and gig's if you haven't done this go to a local hydro shop and put together a price list for everything it takes for a primo indoor setup- Top shelf nutes, lights, fans, climate control system, etc. It costs a pretty penny to produce consistent high quality indoor product. THAT is why it is so expensive. The fact that a store owner is going to mark up whatever he/she is selling should be a given...we do live in a so-called-capitalist society folks.


the goverment of canda buys it from its grower for $10/ounce

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/203337


in a massive underground grow in a mine using those fancy lights or
radioactivity....

now thats in canadian dollars and the growing company still makes a
profit at $10/oz....so the real cost is less than $10 to grow a oz..


yes i am working at trying to make it legal to get it at
your local drugstore .... in all 50 states... watch your local
news for updates....

ok....it will be my life mission before i die...who knows
someone may even make a doc film about it... then i'll give them your
names/greedy attitudes ..as my inspiration ....then you can
get imortalized on the great film screen



no economic system has ever produced and distributed a product more cheaply than walmart.

ever here of a non profit stores??? kicks the ass out of the pro-profit
stores...so don't even think of competing with a non-profit store...

helped run a few non-profits ..the profits had to close down after
we started...first they tried to lower their prices lower than ours
but we got the state attorney on their cases for using profits
elsewhere in state to offer below cost ...to try to knock us out of business...the state backed us up...

you can feel entitled to have others GIVE it to you (looking at you ALS )

nah i'll pay for it even if it is a rip-off price
pain is a bitch...not into pain much....

but can only afford so much at these rip-off prices...

medical patients seek relief with pot....illness is not by choice... you grow
by choice and charge for your risk... however in a legal med pot state
the risks are zilch....


peace
als83
 
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TheMintMan

That's a ONE TIME expense. Nutes and bulbs thereafter aren't that much.

I guess you've never heard of the word Amortization. Fortunately every other business has.

I guess you've never done things proper. Some people actually run their grow rooms like labs- and those are the guys who are getting 500 bucks an ounce...because their costs justify it. I have seen it, and could care less whether you believe it's possible, probable, or even fair.

And I have worked for non-mj retail stores as management and seen their pricing matrices, overhead, and markup. It all seemed fair enough to me. If there was something I didn't like, I took note of it and now that I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS I do things a bit differently. But, if you haven't sustained a large operation for a long period of time, you shouldn't be involved in this discussion.
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
H707: you have no idea what you're talking about, do you? if there were an ICMag award for fallacious arguments (its should be a steaming turd icon next to your avatar) you would win it. hands down.

no economic system has ever produced and distributed a product more cheaply than walmart. I am not advocating this paradigm because I disagree with it on many other levels, but your idea that walmart is charging an unfair price to the consumer is utterly absurd. they may be paying an unfair wage to their employees or using slave labor abroad to keep prices down, but never before has an economy of such scale been able to survive on such a small per-item markup.

Mom and Pops usually charge a much higher markup because their costs are higher. 50-75% is the worldwide standard for markup. Walmart may be able to do it for around 30% because of cutting costs in other nefarious ways.

Point is, we are not actually arguing about anything all day long. In a constructive argument or debate, both sides respond directly to the other with cogent remarks. You, however, have not done this once. All of your arguments are fallacious and you come off as nothing but a whining weasel.

I'm not even a capitalist (though I am a realist living in a capitalist world). You claim to advocate some economic ideas that I believe in but are so unbelievably bad at supporting those ideas... you're an embarrassment.

It's a good thing I am smoking joints otherwise you would actually piss me off with your stupity but I am smoking so your not really getting to me lol lol..... cause your remarks are just tooooo stupid to even post back to lol peace out Headband707:laughing:
 
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TheMintMan

the goverment of canda buys it from its grower for $10/ounce

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/203337


in a massive underground grow in a mine using those fancy lights or
radioactivity....

now thats in canadian dollars and the growing company still makes a
profit at $10/oz....so the real cost is less than $10 to grow a oz..


yes i am working at trying to make it legal to get it at
your local drugstore .... in all 50 states... watch your local
news for updates....

peace
als83

Have you ever smoked that Canadian gov't weed you speak of? It is crap.

ok....it will be my life mission before i die...who knows
someone may even make a doc film about it... then i'll give them your
names/greedy attitudes ..as my inspiration ....then you can
get imortalized on the great film screen

Good luck fame-seeker. Use my name all you want. I have nothing to hide. :)
 
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TheMintMan

It's a good thing I am smoking joints otherwise you would actually piss me off with your stupity but I am smoking so your not really getting to me lol lol..... cause your remarks are just tooooo stupid to even post back to lol peace out Headband707:laughing:

Witty retort.
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

Licensed Grower
ICMag Donor
Veteran
als you really should get it out of your head that it will be simliar to the tobacco industry and prices will shoot down. It will be a ma and pa "wine vineyard" type cannabis biz if legalized. Sure there will be mass scale low quality big pharma big corporation unethical profit weed,but that shit won't be that expensive. A bottle of fine wine is still going to cost you half the cost we are paying now.
 

johnnyla

Active member
Veteran
the goverment of canda buys it from its grower for $10/ounce

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/203337


in a massive underground grow in a mine using those fancy lights or
radioactivity....

now thats in canadian dollars and the growing company still makes a
profit at $10/oz....so the real cost is less than $10 to grow a oz..


yes i am working at trying to make it legal to get it at
your local drugstore .... in all 50 states... watch your local
news for updates....

ok....it will be my life mission before i die...who knows
someone may even make a doc film about it... then i'll give them your
names/greedy attitudes ..as my inspiration ....then you can
get imortalized on the great film screen





ever here of a non profit stores??? kicks the ass out of the pro-profit
stores...so don't even think of competing with a non-profit store...

helped run a few non-profits ..the profits had to close down after
we started...first they tried to lower their prices lower than ours
but we got the state attorney on their cases for using profits
elsewhere in state to offer below cost ...to try to knock us out of business...the state backed us up...



nah i'll pay for it even if it is a rip-off price
pain is a bitch...not into pain much....

but can only afford so much at these rip-off prices...

medical patients seek relief with pot....illness is not by choice... you grow
by choice and charge for your risk... however in a legal med pot state
the risks are zilch....


peace
als83

that's great if you live in Canada maing. in the US, people go to jail for cannabis. the DEA just extradicted Marc Emery.
 
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