Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

[Pythagllio]

Path you sound pissed lol lol.. If you give this whole fucking mess to me I will run it the way I see fit and your right it won't be at this price I can promise you that. Will it be free for the dying ..perhaps.. Each case will have to be looked at with it's own merrits etc. Does that make my a fuckhead or a person that thinks I'm above anyone on this board absolutely not. Do I have an agenda ? Just to see that this shit stops once and for all. no higher ground then anyone elses nor do I think Jbonham was trying to put himself above anyone just stating the facts as he sees them. Peace out Headband707

Yeah, it does piss me off because all the high horse chest thumping look at me I'm morally superior fuckheads that whine about people getting paid for doing work never offer any alternative plans, never bother to explain why the for profit dispensaries are preventing people from giving their shit away. It doesn't make any sense. Has Barnes & Noble shut down the public library? See what 'shit stop once and for all'? People entering into voluntary transactions? Would you actually limit the freedom of people to suit your agenda? If you wouldn't, how do you stop it? You just don't have the resources. If resources were dynamite you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose much less change the very essence of human nature.

When/if you actually get something up let me know. If it's real, I might even give some money to help. Well, you probably wouldn't want my money because it's lousy with the stench of profit.

 

[headband 707]

Seeing as though you brought this subject up I will tell you one story that come to mind atleast for me. Years ago when I was at the club here I seen a guy come into the club and say here is a lb for free. I thought that was a very nice and noble thing to do I didn't know that ppl were doing that. I went to the club the next day thinking that the members would benifit from this mans generosity but NO the club charged every thing on the board was $9.00 a gram. I always wondered if the man knew that his stuff was turned around and charged at $9.00 ?? That pisses me off... I had seen lots of ppl do the right thing or think they were doing the right thing with the club and the club turn around and do the wrong thing. Then there is the thing I keep hearing about free pot to Cancer patients well I for one would like to hear more about this. If there is anyone on this board that get free pot from any club could you please speak up and let me know??? I would like to pass on this free pot as they don't do that here lol lol.....They just say really this pot would work well for that lol lol Then you ask me for a solution well I have one for you . There are more of us then them we are supposed to make the laws not them. So make them put the ppl in place that will make the difference. enough with these assholes that we have given power to for so long. I went to a Dr. the other day and this Dr is very high up in the pain community here in BC I told her that "I smoke pot for pain" and she actually said "well you better stop because it causes Lung Cancer" and she is the specialist for pain that runs a hospital here. If she can say somthing like that and be that uneducated then were introuble. How can the Dr's be this uneducated on the subject? Couldn't be because of the pharmacy's? lol peace out Headband707

 

[Pythagllio]

Nice, don't bother to address any of the questions...par for the course. Complain, bitch, whine and moan, but never any working ideas or alternatives, just another story of human nature. Wow, you knew some idiot that gave away several thousand dollars and didn't bother to make sure his shit was going to be given to people who were worthy and his money got divided up by some unscrupulous people. So fucking what? Tell us another story of someone getting fucked over and act as if it means we should all just close our eyes and insist that some fantasy land, unworkable system that 'should be' in place is implemented.

 

[headband 707]

I can't help you bro you seem to want to fight about this in a way I don't lol The fact that we are not on the same page and you think it's bitching whining and complaining shows how far apart we are as ppl so we will just leave it like that,peace out Headband707

 

[EstimatedProph]

in denver many shops charge 130+ for 7g and the quality is crap

Ya I have been quite disappointed in the quality of my local dispensary lately and the prices are absolutely outrageous. Crack prices.

 

[nephilthim]

please let this thread die!I want to duct tape you people to kneeler ,oh god please forgive me the evil coop made me buy that dried out crap they recomended for 130,yup it's all their fault since I am too afraid to grow,it's much easier to bitch about the coops quality,and laugh at them when your local swat force needs to burn off those donuts they have been accumulating around their middle kicks in their doors on the evening news.
I am treekiller with a valid dr. note,but my wife,kids,family,landlord,dad,mom,pastor,priest,boss won't let me grow at home I couldn't possibly have them find out,because the kids would have more weed to steal,and everyone could recognise me for the hypocritic that i really am,because it's sooo much easier to be critical of others when you can't, won't do it for yourself,and after all they did put a gun too your head right?yea right!medical mj prices can't be too high because your not dumb enough to buy it right?yea right!

 

[Pythagllio]

I can't help you bro you seem to want to fight about this in a way I don't lol The fact that we are not on the same page and you think it's bitching whining and complaining shows how far apart we are as ppl so we will just leave it like that,peace out Headband707

Great, another deflection of the questions. Why is you guys can't be honest, and at least say 'I don't know'? Oh well, I'll keep asking them. It amuses me that those who think things 'should be' a certain way can't even muster an effort to make a defense of their position.

 

[headband 707]

Whats wrong boys you don't have any good dope at home??Sorry but I feel good about the shit I spew lol can't rattle this cage lol sorry lol.. Pyth if you read you will see I did give an answer your just not accepting it lol oh well no skin off my ass lol.. kids kids ,,live this life then get back to me about the outcome will ya?? You both seem really anger and I can't help you with that ,,, your going to have dig deep and look for some more compassion then spewing shit like this on the net, troll on patrol Pyth,and Nep. Life is a great equalizer and in the end we all get to see that one , peace out Headband707

That is ironic Zen lol lol peace out

 

[zenoonez]

Ironically enough I agree with headband on the anger issue. Need to simmadownnow.

 

[nephilthim]

I officially depise this thread due to the politics of individuals wanting to enforce their version of xanadu on the world.your all entitled to your opinion,which is what this thread is everyones subjective experience and interpretation of what pricing sould be like,juxtaposed against what it is: is definitely worse than building than the bridge on the river kwai.I paid 290 for some great white widow,I have some pre98 bubba.og.o.g. curing.I have seeds up the whazoo I have a valid rec. I don't care to complain about coops because I make the choice if I want to frequent their establishment,and secondly buy anything.
I make the choice, I am responsible for and am the captain of my own ship if they or any other individual recieves my business it is only because I enable them period.
based on my philosophy you can see how jaundiced I am at a biased,unsubjective,assertion that medical cannabis is soo expensive.
I remember the bad Old days before prop 215 when growing was a felony,and possesion was a drug diversion class as it is now for those without a recommend in california.
I remember my dad paying 500 an ounce in the 80's for a zip of what was purported to be afghani bud.
be thankful for what we have now instead of complaining.if you don't like it grow your own otherwise please be quiet unless you can propose an effective solution in the face of supply demand.
heres mine collectively associate and defer some of the costs that you spend on mj to start your own collective.the recent rulings in california favor individuals to sue for damages should leo arbitrarily act against valid medical mj patients.
the provisions of s.b.420 regarding limits towards legitimate medical patients are officially unconstitutional,therefore there is no exscuse fo people not to grow,and any reason you proffer substantiates my position that you enable only what you allow.
so if you can't grow a sack at least grow some trees.

 

[nomaad]

agreed. this thread is officially a wank. and since the California Supreme Court just invalidated the plant and possession limits imposed by SB420, we will now see Prop 215 UNLEASHED.

Outdoor 2010 is going to be insane. If you are not growing on public land both the State and Federal drug warriors are either bound by law or policy to stay off your ass. While many will keep their numbers low to stay under the radar (as many smart people have always been doing) there will be those that test the theory that no plant limits means as many plants as you want to grow. Not to mention the effect it will have on the size of indoor grows immediately. Am I correct in my feeling that most big city CA dispensaries are selling mostly indoor?

We'll see what happens when the Supreme Court decision is published.

 

[Gr33n_Chr0nic]

nomaad, indeed a great thing.......... I cant wait to see what yall come up with in the grows this year.

wish I could legally tag along

I guess I'll just stick to the woods for now

prohibition is a bitch

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

Question: I was asked by my girl if in the U.S where there are states where medical cannabis is legal, then, does insurance cover the costs of the medicine the insured need, in this case cannabis? I don't know the answer though, so I ask here.

thanks

peace

 

[Fobbon]

I am an old fart but here is my 2 cents. I need both hips replaced, had 8 surgerys and 3 strokes before I lost my living wage job. 2 years later I lost my house and I also live on SSi and medicare. just 1 of my 10 meds cost me $1,200 a month and medicare drug benifits run out at $2.700 so by March I am buying and/or going without this med which means no cash for cronic. But I found the answer, at very little cost I set up a room and soon will harvest my first crop. really, with a little scavaging I don't have more than the cost of a blackmarked oz (under 300). With all the info contained here just "GROW SOME"

 

[Fobbon]

No ins will not cover any weed, its stated so in the law here (Wash)

 

[mtbazz]

Because American's moral values get flushed once there's a dollar to be made. Case in point, charging the sick for medications they need. Thats profiting off of illness, no matter how you slice it. Same with prisons. We find something unprofitable, develop a middleman, and viola, profit. That pesky thing we were working to prevent has now become profitable. So now that we are making money off that problem, its no longer a problem. America boasts that its most profitable industry are ths drug companies. The same companies that make money off the sick and dying. For a country thats so up its own ass about its "Christian values", we sure as hell don't follow Jesus' example of just helping people because its right. No, we need another motivator. Money is that motivator. The root of all evil.

How do you propose to make and pay for drugs than? I work in the pharma industry, most of my work is done in the early drug discovery stages. It is not uncommon for me to blow through $5,000.00 worth of reagents a week in experiments, and thats just one person.


As far as weed prices go (black market and medicical), I think that when you take into consideration the risk, time and effort a person undergoes to supply this stuff $400.00-$500.00 an ounce is more than reasonable.

 

[nomaad]

Question: I was asked by my girl if in the U.S where there are states where medical cannabis is legal, then, does insurance cover the costs of the medicine the insured need, in this case cannabis? I don't know the answer though, so I ask here.

so far, no. but we'll see what happens when the first group of cancer patients sue their insurance company for coverage of their medical mj needs.

nomaad, indeed a great thing.......... I cant wait to see what yall come up with in the grows this year.

its going to be very very interesting. there will be a lot more product on the market next year. that will lower prices and mean quality. there will always be the dank and the schwag and everything in between... but bulk usually means lower quality.

it will also be very interesting to see which LEOs are going to take a political stance against unfettered plant numbers. Its going to be a wild year.

 

[nomaad]

What needs to happen to set the stage for truly unleashed growing in California is a situation in which a grower growing say... 1000 plants to get taken down by some overzealous, not so bright Sheriff with ambitions of being mayor or somesuch. The grower then has to sue for the value of the plants using hostile testimony from the STATE's own witnesses reagrding plant values as used against growers in the past.

If the grower wins damages in that case, its over. Shit, even if the state has to incur the court costs and the the grower gets nothing. That will be that.

FreedomFghter has apparently volunteered to be the test case and provide us with precedent.

 

[als83]

well ican see why you want this thread to die
and let the word slip out that growers support price
gouging medical pot users...

too embarrassed over your greedy ways...nomaad...nephilthim????


pot is 1.5 times cheaper on the street than it is in the
dispensary here ...

if normal would get on obama case to get the dea to change
pot from a schedule 1 to a schedule 2 drug....medical
pot could then be sold...i believe... in any drugstore in
the country with a simple dr script ...regardless of state
laws....as 100% thc caps or 100% thc hash

peace
als83

 

[Moldy Dreads]

From what I understand, buds are sold from between 20 and 30 bucks a gram or 60 bucks or so an eighth.

pot is 1.5 times cheaper on the street than it is in the
dispensary here ..