You use half of what you would spend on that ounce, AND GROW YOUR OWN...
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Why is medical marijuana so expensive?
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You use half of what you would spend on that ounce, AND GROW YOUR OWN...
Yeah!
work for free damn it!
how dare you try and tell us your time is worth money
hold on.....
"what mom"
oh crap, I got to go now because my mom said I have been up too late and me being only 29 living at home I best listen to her
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I will leave you guys with this,
you should grow everything for free and give it away to everyone. If you go broke doing so just do like I do and ask my mom for money. She is really nice, she buys my clothes, my food, lets me live in this bad ass basement.
all you guys out there trying to make some money growing are ASSHOLES!
shame on you!
work for free damn it!
how dare you try and tell us your time is worth money
hold on.....
"what mom"
oh crap, I got to go now because my mom said I have been up too late and me being only 29 living at home I best listen to her
...
I will leave you guys with this,
you should grow everything for free and give it away to everyone. If you go broke doing so just do like I do and ask my mom for money. She is really nice, she buys my clothes, my food, lets me live in this bad ass basement.
all you guys out there trying to make some money growing are ASSHOLES!
shame on you!
Gr33n_Chr0nic
New member
I think a shit ton of jobs could be created just by legalizing the shit.
Then we wouldnt have any of this muck about MMJ and growing and money and high prices
let the people who want to devote themselves to helping others (very righteous) , devote themselves to helping others
and the guys who want to actually make a career out of it , could very well do so because someone is going to have to market the shit, and someone is going to have to grow mass quantities (if they make pot ciggs... ya know.)
So lack of intelligence means you shouldn't make good money? What about roughnecks? Athletes? Welders? Electricians? The price of a service or good is not determined by the intelligence of the man performing or producing it. Nursing is a shit job and it is much closer to physical labor than many might think.
thank you for the answer nomaad 
it seems that medical cannabis is too expensive even at 200 USD an OZ if insurance does not cover it.
200 USD an OZ for someone who wants herb for recreational purposes, then it is an alright price...
Peace.
it seems that medical cannabis is too expensive even at 200 USD an OZ if insurance does not cover it.
200 USD an OZ for someone who wants herb for recreational purposes, then it is an alright price...
Peace.
Why should that make a difference?
If I want to buy tomatoes for a sauce instead of a salad should it be cheaper?
No, its the same plant, so same cost. I don't understand why people bitch so much, you don't make the prices. If you don't want to pay that much DON'T.
If I want to buy tomatoes for a sauce instead of a salad should it be cheaper?
No, its the same plant, so same cost. I don't understand why people bitch so much, you don't make the prices. If you don't want to pay that much DON'T.
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TheMintMan
Aaaahahahaha. I nearly pissed myself when I saw that picture. How appropriate.
Someone said something about labor cost. Very true, and the most neglected operating cost that most still-havent-left-the-nest's don't appreciate. If it takes me 6 months to grow a handful of monsters in my greenhouse, and I only get a pound or two out of it due to natural disaster...how do I calculate what my time is worth? How should I calculate my time? According to what I think is fair, naturally. Not according to anybody else's opinion, because they don't know my numbers like I know my numbers.
"A laborer is worthy of his wages."
Besides, something that isn't mentioned enough, is that all these growers who people complain are "ripping them off" do not HAVE to share ANYthing with the general public. A good grower is good at whatever he does and does not NEED to make money from weed. The fact that the kind of primo-taglio shit we get in Cali is even released to non-growers should be viewed as a blessing. From the perspective of a business owner- There is always going to be someone who wants to haggle down your price. There is always a competitor who will go a few dollars cheaper to steal away your business. But if you are constantly trying to accomodate THOSE people, you will go out of business with a quickness, and all the people who would have been willing to pay what you asked because they have made provisions for their necessities (because they are wise enough to know that regardless of their situation they have to take care of themselves and not expect it from others) are going to take their money to the next guy...who was wise enough not to put himself out of business at the whim of the whiners.
Someone said something about labor cost. Very true, and the most neglected operating cost that most still-havent-left-the-nest's don't appreciate. If it takes me 6 months to grow a handful of monsters in my greenhouse, and I only get a pound or two out of it due to natural disaster...how do I calculate what my time is worth? How should I calculate my time? According to what I think is fair, naturally. Not according to anybody else's opinion, because they don't know my numbers like I know my numbers.
"A laborer is worthy of his wages."
Besides, something that isn't mentioned enough, is that all these growers who people complain are "ripping them off" do not HAVE to share ANYthing with the general public. A good grower is good at whatever he does and does not NEED to make money from weed. The fact that the kind of primo-taglio shit we get in Cali is even released to non-growers should be viewed as a blessing. From the perspective of a business owner- There is always going to be someone who wants to haggle down your price. There is always a competitor who will go a few dollars cheaper to steal away your business. But if you are constantly trying to accomodate THOSE people, you will go out of business with a quickness, and all the people who would have been willing to pay what you asked because they have made provisions for their necessities (because they are wise enough to know that regardless of their situation they have to take care of themselves and not expect it from others) are going to take their money to the next guy...who was wise enough not to put himself out of business at the whim of the whiners.
tomatoes for salad or sauce is the same because it is for eating.
medicinal cannabis and recreational are different because one is for people who need it, and the other is for people who want it.
the people who need it should be able to get it very cheap through insurance, if they cannot, 200 an OZ is too much.
30grams of herb for 200 usd an OZ in a legal world will be a rip-off, whether for medical or recreational reasons.
also, in a legal world, indoor ops will be a thing of the past.
Paz.
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TheMintMan
"also, in a legal world, indoor ops will be a thing of the past."
That is false.
That is false.
tomatoes for salad or sauce is the same because it is for eating.
medicinal cannabis and recreational are different because one is for people who need it, and the other is for people who want it.
the people who need it should be able to get it very cheap through insurance, if they cannot, 200 an OZ is too much.
30grams of herb for 200 usd an OZ in a legal world will be a rip-off, whether for medical or recreational reasons.
also, in a legal world, indoor ops will be a thing of the past.
Paz.
Why does it matter if you need it or want it? Either way you are consuming it so it's the same thing. (the same argument you used against me). People NEED tomatoes in order to survive, food is a necessity. If you make the argument that I could eat potates instead of tomatoes, than I could make the argument that you could use vicodin instead of cannibis for pain relief (just one example).
The point is, despite the use it is not going to change the cost. They are all produced the same way, so why should one person get it cheaper than another? I think that it should be covered under medicare, but its not, so why should you force the grower to cover the cost?
Pharmaceutical companies sell their "goods" for the same price regardless of who is using it, so why shouldn't growers?
as far as I know, tomatoes does not have the same medicinal qualities that cannabis does though; so your example is still not true.
pharmaceutical companies sell their products the same price regardless of who is using it because it assumed whomever buys their products have some kind of need for it. you don't get antibiotics for recreation, do you?
just to be clear, I don't think the grower should not make a just profit; they can for sure.
however, making a just profit and taking advantage of the medical market are two different things all-together.
legal medicinal cannabis adopted the same pricing as the illegal recreational cannabis scene, they even adopted the same measures as reference: 1/8, 1/4, OZ etc...
why didn't they choose to measure using the metric system instead?
why do legal outdoor ops will cost as much as an illegal indoor op?
makes no sense.
of course it is a free market and if you find someone to buy a turd of horse for 500 bucks, it is alright under the assumptions of such market.
who would want indoor bud in a legal world when they could get buds grown outdoors in the blue mountains of jamaica instead?
Paz.
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TheMintMan
Me, because I do not know this Jamaican that you speak of. And I do not trust people I do not know. And I don't like finding bird shit, or fibers, or hair, or anything else on my buds. If we are going to talk about this like it's equivalent to drugs that actually ARE medical necessities, then we might as well operate in a sterile environment as well, no?
First off, lycopene may help prevent cancer so I don't know what you are talking about with tomatoes not having medicinal value.
Secondly need doesn't justify getting shit for free my friend. I need water in my house but if I don't pay my bill they sure as shit shut it off. There are drugs out there covered by insurance, if a person NEEDS meds to treat something there are alternatives, they CHOOSE to self medicate with mj. And again I will be the bad guy, just because someone is sick doesn't entitle them to free mj. They can receive it due to the charity of someone else but that is up to the person giving the charity.
The medicinal value really had nothing to do with it (though like I said they keep you alive), the point is that they are produced the same way so they should be the same price regardless of customer.
The majority of people would take quality indoor over quality outdoor from February 1st thru mid September....from my experience here in Oregon.
They love the outdoor when it comes in but after a few months its back to the top quality indoor....and thats with the indoor being $900-$1500 more a pound. Only outdoor sales during this time are usually quantity buys for people out of state or in metro areas where there are huge demands from inexperienced or unconnected people and dealers can make huge profits because the outdoor is so cheap.
I would always take indoor over outdoor....
Market dictates price, as long as people are paying 300+ an ounce they will continue to sell for that. There is no shortage of people wanting it at 300+ an ounce.
Market dictates price, as long as people are paying 300+ an ounce they will continue to sell for that. There is no shortage of people wanting it at 300+ an ounce.
cannabis is an actual medical necessity, believe it or not.
you can always grow in a greenhouse, just like an indoor but with the sun, can't beat that, and costs less to grow with a better light-source.
first of all, you need to learn how to read... I never said tomatoes did not have medicinal qualities, rather, that as far as I know, tomatoes do not have the same medicinal qualities as cannabis.
in Israel, medicinal cannabis is supplied to patients by the government for free. and the grower still makes a living.
I never said the grower should not make a living out of his/her work.
the medical cannabis scene in the U.S indeed took the illegal market scheme to do business, so they sell to legal patients at the same price illegal ops sell to people without scripts. does this make sense?
the grower should earn the same per gram grown whether it is for medicinal uses or other; however, the person with medical needs should not be subjected to the same price margins as those who seek out the herb illegally and for recreational purposes.
that is the actual point.
Paz
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TheMintMan
I challenge you to prove to me that there is no other alternative to marijuana. And that people die ONLY because their body does not receive the active ingredient in marijuana. That is how I define need. Not by who cries the loudest, or even who throws up the most...not to be cold-hearted because I am actually a very compassionate person by nature. I just don't believe in absolutes in most cases.
And greenhouses are not "just like an indoor but with the sun". First, because you cannot control the light cycle of the sun without spending $$$ on yet more equipment (i.e. shades controlled by timer). Second, unless you've got hepa filters on every opening (another cost that is not very practical in a greenhouse grow) you are going to have the same problems as you do with outdoor as far as fibers, hairs, and the like. Third, temps humidity etc are going to be different and harder to control to end up with top-shelf medical-grade product.
First of all, you need to learn how to think. You are trying to say that just because mj has medical benefits that it should be free or cost very little to the patient. There are multiple medicines that are free or low cost because they are covered by insurance. Therefore the patient CHOOSES to medicate with mj and not the other drugs and therefore chooses of his own free will to pay the prices that he finds.
Nothing is free and for the grower to make his money aka his living he must be paid. So it is free for those who don't pay taxes into the system to pay for it. The price is just deferred to those who do pay into the system.
Then stop saying that they should give their product away for less than market price.
How does it not make sense? There are still legal risks in growing and distributing. People would just turn around and hock the medical on the streets like they do with vicodin and every other medication that has enjoyable properties.
Disagree completely. Unless you have a financial burden that makes yo unable to pay you don't deserve charity. And if you do have a financial burden, charity is your answer and only hope.
Why is Medical MJ so cheap?
Why is Medical MJ so cheap?
I went to the dispensary and they had 3 strains at $25 an eighth, 4 at $35, 3 at $45, 5 at the $50-$55 range and 3 amazingly frosty Ogs and Herojuana at $60 an eighth..
Why can't I find this selection of my daytime meds and night meds at the local dealer down in the hood? I mean he has a great selection of ecstasy, coke and Vicodin/Xanax, but fuck, why is his $50 commercial mids crap so expensive compared to the dispensary?
I'm confused
Why is Medical MJ so cheap?
I went to the dispensary and they had 3 strains at $25 an eighth, 4 at $35, 3 at $45, 5 at the $50-$55 range and 3 amazingly frosty Ogs and Herojuana at $60 an eighth..
Why can't I find this selection of my daytime meds and night meds at the local dealer down in the hood? I mean he has a great selection of ecstasy, coke and Vicodin/Xanax, but fuck, why is his $50 commercial mids crap so expensive compared to the dispensary?
I'm confused
