-
As of today ICMag has his own Discord server. In this Discord server you can chat, talk with eachother, listen to music, share stories and pictures...and much more. Join now and let's grow together! Join ICMag Discord here! More details in this thread here: here.
Why I don't believe in f-cking with the sexuality of cannabis
- Thread starter CharlesU Farley
- Start date
CharlesU Farley
Well-known member
Give me a little time and I'll explain how I do it. Most won't agree, and that's quite all right.
I'll give you a hint, it doesn't have anything to do with microscopic analysis of resin globules or a scratch and sniff of the main stem.
dogzter
Drapetomaniac
Me either here its a combo of structure and surviving the testing.Give me a little time and I'll explain how I do it. Most won't agree, and that's quite all right.
I'll give you a hint, it doesn't have anything to do with microscopic analysis of resin globules or a scratch and sniff of the main stem.
Thought I had a good candidate this year but the dogs ate him first day after being put in the ground
Shua1991
Well-known member
All that tells you is your selection was too small to find a plant with the right set of recessive "funky" genes that got overpowered when inbreeding and you chose a plant with dominant inbred "sweetness", thiol content also correlates to your sulfur availability in soil. Adding fish bone meal to your soil mix with a tiny bit of "garden gypsum" (calcium sulfate) and dolomite lime will increase the sulfur uptake of your plant and help maintain calcium, magnesium, sulfur, silica*.
The only thing that matters is the performance of the offspring. Did you succeed in your selection process, or fail? Are you aware of why it failed? It takes years to pin down which traits are recessive and dominant, or co-dominant. This is why testing offspring is the only way to know and testing males(pollen donors) prior to testing offspring reduces the odds of failure.
So stem rubs help identify chemotype/phytochemicals and phenotype, It doesn't tell you if the "male" you are flowering passes on intersex genes, you'd have to observe those traits via testing.
Resin gland production is also something you SHOULD look for, everyone who has bred cannabis seriously knows males that express feminine traits without showing intersex, are prized males, especially if by senescence they show no signs of intersex.
The only thing that matters is the performance of the offspring. Did you succeed in your selection process, or fail? Are you aware of why it failed? It takes years to pin down which traits are recessive and dominant, or co-dominant. This is why testing offspring is the only way to know and testing males(pollen donors) prior to testing offspring reduces the odds of failure.
So stem rubs help identify chemotype/phytochemicals and phenotype, It doesn't tell you if the "male" you are flowering passes on intersex genes, you'd have to observe those traits via testing.
Resin gland production is also something you SHOULD look for, everyone who has bred cannabis seriously knows males that express feminine traits without showing intersex, are prized males, especially if by senescence they show no signs of intersex.
Last edited:
is that called natural selection?Me either here its a combo of structure and surviving the testing.
Thought I had a good candidate this year but the dogs ate him first day after being put in the ground
eastcoastjoe
Well-known member
Some of the best weed on the planet came from herm accidents and bagseed. Just something to consider
eastcoastjoe
Well-known member
One could easily make the argument that if you use that same parent in line breeding, the same thing could happen.
I can tell you another thing that is a little strange. Some of these super star plants that came from hermie accidents, sometimes tend to be sterile and extremely hard to reverse. Just goes to show us all how much the average grower has no idea about genetics lol.
eastcoastjoe
Well-known member
Let me ask you something. If at the end of the day, our goal is to breed plants with the highest terpene profiles and highest cannabinoid profiles, to get the best affect, who decides the right and wrong way to get there?
mudballs
Well-known member
Science data...im on record, there is no wrong way, just wrong execution. It's ok to self a plant and continue line breeding as long as forebears are stable and breeder knows what the plant should do..that's the right 'execution' imo
eastcoastjoe
Well-known member
Are you saying line breeding is the proper execution for preservation? Or are you saying that is the proper execution to get to the final destination of quality and stability for the end user?
eastcoastjoe
Well-known member
Right, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Many different ways to get there. I just don’t agree that line breeding or filial breeding is the correct way or right way to get there.
eastcoastjoe
Well-known member
I still just don’t see any basis for the argument that the author of this thread is trying to make. If we are not talking about preserving, or locking traits into a line, the rest is just hogwash really.
Some of the best cultivars that have stood the test of time all seem to have come from reversals/hermie accidents/accidental pollinations. If what was being said about feminized breeding is true, how come in the last 30 years we haven’t had things come out of line breeding that has just blown chemdawg, sour diesel,OG Kush out of the water?
Some of the best cultivars that have stood the test of time all seem to have come from reversals/hermie accidents/accidental pollinations. If what was being said about feminized breeding is true, how come in the last 30 years we haven’t had things come out of line breeding that has just blown chemdawg, sour diesel,OG Kush out of the water?
