Anybody know how freshly applied predator mites do in the rain?
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I need to do a proper update but in the meantime here is a copy and paste that I put up in two other threads today regarding broad and russet mites.
Don't add any sulphur in conjunction with or after any sprays using oils, the two together create a phytotoxic effect on your plants. I'm also not a fan of OG Biowar as I personally think it is a vastly overpriced product where %70 of the product itself is Talc.
I had recent success against Russet Mites by using Green Cleaner for 2 or 3 applications, 3 days apart to initially knock them their numbers down. Apply the predator mites several days after your last green cleaner application so that they won't be killed off by it before they can do what they are supposed to do. I would order predator mites right now and get them to you before any additional damage is done. The nice thing about the mites is that they will stick around if cared for and will continually do work against spider, russet, and broad mites. I ordered mine from Evergreen Growers Supply. Here is a link where they break down what good mites will combat the bad, specifically for cannabis. http://www.evergreengrowers.com/crop-recommendations/cannabis-crop-recommendation/medical-marijuana-crop-recommendations.html
Here are the relevant ones for you that I had on my last order that I was very happy with,
Amblyseius swirskii - For Russets, Broads
Hypoaspis (Stratiolaelaps scimitus Womersley) - General soil mite, good defender against fungus gnats, etc.
Amblyseius fallacis on bean leaves - Good attacker against spider mites and good general defense
Amblyseius cucumeris Rapid Release - Also eats russet mites and good defense.
Seafour also recently recommended to me to get bee pollen to apply to the plants after a time so that they can feed off of it after bad mite populations begin to dwindle and the good mites can eat that as well as the bad mites to survive.
With all of this you can create the perfect defense to really knock them out and also keep them around so they don't stick around. I would venture a guess that if Russets are around then they are all over so you want to create this good environment for the beneficial predators to exist and stick around to perpetually keep the Russets off your plants. Keep us posted, no need to lose sleep
Don't add any sulphur in conjunction with or after any sprays using oils, the two together create a phytotoxic effect on your plants. I'm also not a fan of OG Biowar as I personally think it is a vastly overpriced product where %70 of the product itself is Talc.
I had recent success against Russet Mites by using Green Cleaner for 2 or 3 applications, 3 days apart to initially knock them their numbers down. Apply the predator mites several days after your last green cleaner application so that they won't be killed off by it before they can do what they are supposed to do. I would order predator mites right now and get them to you before any additional damage is done. The nice thing about the mites is that they will stick around if cared for and will continually do work against spider, russet, and broad mites. I ordered mine from Evergreen Growers Supply. Here is a link where they break down what good mites will combat the bad, specifically for cannabis. http://www.evergreengrowers.com/crop-recommendations/cannabis-crop-recommendation/medical-marijuana-crop-recommendations.html
Here are the relevant ones for you that I had on my last order that I was very happy with,
Amblyseius swirskii - For Russets, Broads
Hypoaspis (Stratiolaelaps scimitus Womersley) - General soil mite, good defender against fungus gnats, etc.
Amblyseius fallacis on bean leaves - Good attacker against spider mites and good general defense
Amblyseius cucumeris Rapid Release - Also eats russet mites and good defense.
Seafour also recently recommended to me to get bee pollen to apply to the plants after a time so that they can feed off of it after bad mite populations begin to dwindle and the good mites can eat that as well as the bad mites to survive.
With all of this you can create the perfect defense to really knock them out and also keep them around so they don't stick around. I would venture a guess that if Russets are around then they are all over so you want to create this good environment for the beneficial predators to exist and stick around to perpetually keep the Russets off your plants. Keep us posted, no need to lose sleep
Yes, that is why I recommended Pfr-97 over OG bio. Same type of biological control without all the talc.
If I remember correctly doesn't the environment have to remain at like 80% humidity for that product to work? We aren't anywhere near that indoors or out in Colorado. Thank you for the recommendation though. I'm a fan of the predator mites now.
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Don't add any sulphur in conjunction with or after any sprays using oils, the two together create a phytotoxic effect on your plants.
More info on that... If you spray any oil based foliar's, such as neem, you should wait at least two weeks before spraying sulphur, preferably a month according to a university study I read somewhere. I know because I was dealing with rust early in the season and started off with neem... Then Serenade, and after a couple weeks tried Sulphur... Didn't work on the type of rust I had. Those work for bacterial rust, eventually I understood I had fungal rust and copper took care of it....
More info on that... If you spray any oil based foliar's, such as neem, you should wait at least two weeks before spraying sulphur, preferably a month according to a university study I read somewhere. I know because I was dealing with rust early in the season and started off with neem... Then Serenade, and after a couple weeks tried Sulphur... Didn't work on the type of rust I had. Those work for bacterial rust, eventually I understood I had fungal rust and copper took care of it....
plantingplants
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Congrats on getting them clean. How long has it been? Make sure you keep checking!
I would make sure you have the right copper sprays as well. Some copper sprays are copper sulphate and that might cause problems as well. *Research some more though, I don't have firsthand experience with this*
Around 2 weeks since I applied the predators I think? Going strong. I just ordered some bee pollen too to keep them fed as the bad mites population dwindles. (Thanks Seafour)
plantingplants
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Fallacis eats wind-blown pollen which is cool. Have you been checking for beneficial mites? How are they doing? Regarding rain, they like humidity so that's a plus. I can't imagine they just fall off because of rain. Not sure that any mite that had to climb back up after every rain would continue existing lol. They're probably small enough to be able to hold on pretty tight.
Mwaahahahhah! Prepare yourselves for the muhfuckin' picture Armageddon!
It doesn't always have to be weed pictures all the time right? Right. I was lucky to have some family come into town and we were able to get out and run around Colorado some.
It doesn't always have to be weed pictures all the time right? Right. I was lucky to have some family come into town and we were able to get out and run around Colorado some.
7/11/16 - OGKB 2.0
7/12/16
Sour Kush
7/12/16
Sour Kush
7/12/16 - Cover crop like whoa
7/13/16 - Black Lime Reserve before and after getting a cover crop haircut.
Here are the seedlings and clones after getting strong foliar sprays every 3 days for several applications to combat the russet mites that came in from outside. As you can see most of them suffered some damage, some worse than others. The Green Cleaner worked but you definitely have to stay on top of the moisture content of your growing medium and make sure they don't dry out or they will get some burning like this on the leaves. The product DOES work but seems like it is very overpriced for soybean oil, isopropyl alcohol, citric acid, etc. I'd venture a guess that if you could figure out the correct proportions of everything you could make a bunch of this stuff on the cheap but I digress.
7/13/16 - Black Lime Reserve before and after getting a cover crop haircut.
Here are the seedlings and clones after getting strong foliar sprays every 3 days for several applications to combat the russet mites that came in from outside. As you can see most of them suffered some damage, some worse than others. The Green Cleaner worked but you definitely have to stay on top of the moisture content of your growing medium and make sure they don't dry out or they will get some burning like this on the leaves. The product DOES work but seems like it is very overpriced for soybean oil, isopropyl alcohol, citric acid, etc. I'd venture a guess that if you could figure out the correct proportions of everything you could make a bunch of this stuff on the cheap but I digress.
After predator mite application
Here they are again on 7/18 after several days of the predators doing their thing and I also got rid of all the backups of the clone onlys to narrow numbers down. The seedlings are Dank Zappas
Check out the roots on the Sour Dubb during transplant on 7/18 to a 1 gallon pot!
I also got out on another weekend warrior trip with my girlfriend out to Taos, NM. That place is a whole other level of unique. I really like that area and I'll be back soon for sure.
Here they are again on 7/18 after several days of the predators doing their thing and I also got rid of all the backups of the clone onlys to narrow numbers down. The seedlings are Dank Zappas
Check out the roots on the Sour Dubb during transplant on 7/18 to a 1 gallon pot!
I also got out on another weekend warrior trip with my girlfriend out to Taos, NM. That place is a whole other level of unique. I really like that area and I'll be back soon for sure.
7/16 & 17
7/19 - Had these guys going nuts digging holes under my pots so I got them to pay rent.
OGKB 2.0 with and without flash
7/20 IPM program on my Gorilla Glue
Sour Kush
OGKB 2.0 with and without flash
7/20 IPM program on my Gorilla Glue
Sour Kush
7/20 Sour Kush again. She's stacking really nice and I'm sure I'll have several baseball bats when it's time for them to come down
7/21 Spreading some of the LHB x Wookie pollen on all the clone onlys that I didn't get seeds from yet. Pictured here is GG4 and the Sour Kush got some and also the OGKB 2.0.
7/21 Here are the clones onlys after getting potted up to 1 gallons. Starting top left and working clockwise I have SFV, Garlic Breath, Chem 91 SkunkVA, "DaywreckerHB", Sour Dubb, GG4
7/22 Greenhouse
7/21 Spreading some of the LHB x Wookie pollen on all the clone onlys that I didn't get seeds from yet. Pictured here is GG4 and the Sour Kush got some and also the OGKB 2.0.
7/21 Here are the clones onlys after getting potted up to 1 gallons. Starting top left and working clockwise I have SFV, Garlic Breath, Chem 91 SkunkVA, "DaywreckerHB", Sour Dubb, GG4
7/22 Greenhouse
7/22 - OGKB 2.0
GG4
The shit I'm having to deal with
7/26 OGKB 2.0 resin rails
GG4
The shit I'm having to deal with
7/26 OGKB 2.0 resin rails
7/27 The greenhouse and outdoor girls. They are still growing despite all the grasshoppers but I'm sure they would have been a lot bigger without the constant abuse. I've spread out Nolo Bait on 3 different applications and gave up on using any more of that stuff. I've been alternating sprays with the build a soil essential oil blend, neem, and combos of those two in addition to a concentrate I made of chilis and garlic which I think helps. Otherwise I just go through and flick/squish/pull off any grasshoppers in the morning and at night. I'm doing the sprays usually every 2-3 days. With every spray I use aloe vera extract, coconut water extract, yucca - I use silica about every other spray.
7/27 Veg/clone/seedling area indoors
Dank Zappas underskirt photo
Garlic Breath
Sour Dubb in the foreground and the back left is the SFV
The two in the foreground are OGKB 2.0 and "The Three" from Chunkypigs. The two in the background are Chem 91 Skunk VA on the left and "Daywrecker Headband" on the right.
Dank Zappas underskirt photo
Garlic Breath
Sour Dubb in the foreground and the back left is the SFV
The two in the foreground are OGKB 2.0 and "The Three" from Chunkypigs. The two in the background are Chem 91 Skunk VA on the left and "Daywrecker Headband" on the right.
I'm guessing the predator mites are still alive and well since the plants did such a 180 degree turn and are rocking and rolling now. As I mentioned in a post from several days ago I'm picking up some bee pollen to sprinkle on the plants to help keep the good mites fed as they continue to eat up the russet mites. I'm definitely a believer in what these good mites can do now. No problems at all after they showed up
On another note, today is the first day of week 6 for the greenhouse girls. I have started to stake them up as they are falling over from their own weight. I have stopped feeding them bottled nutrients and have since started top dressing different dry amendments and fertilizers. I'm going to keep this notill thing going for the next round of plants.
Hahahahha - Told you it was going to be a picture dump.
On another note, today is the first day of week 6 for the greenhouse girls. I have started to stake them up as they are falling over from their own weight. I have stopped feeding them bottled nutrients and have since started top dressing different dry amendments and fertilizers. I'm going to keep this notill thing going for the next round of plants.
Hahahahha - Told you it was going to be a picture dump.
