Application rate was around 7mL/gallon as I didn't want to burn fresh clones. 15mL is the high end of what I use. This is as zoomed in as I can get. I was using the highest magnification on my magnifying glass held up to my phone camera.
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I'm thinking Hemp Russet mites now after poking around on the interwebs. Anybody familiar with them that can confirm?
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I've dipped clones into 50/50 water/alcohol mix, briefly. The plants don't mind a quick bath, but the bugs HATE it. I am not an expert, just letting you know what I've done.
I put these pictures up on Instagram as well and turns out they are Hemp Russet Mites. I'm going to continue to spray the essential oil blend and order some beneficial predator mites to take care of them.
...hemp russets.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=227293
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=227293
Oh yeah, might as well be informational. Heres a pic.
closeup pic of these lil assholes on a fan leaf stem
one lil seedling bit the dust from underwatering, and the hemp russets just went all for that one, so i finally see the tell tale brown powdery dust on stems...
untill now i had only seen leaf claw and canoeing not much visible mites, now as i let one lil one die, the lil f*#rs are showing up on the dead one hard core
still havent gotten my hands on avid, most plants in this garden are to far in flower to hit w avid anyhow, so im sticking w sulphur for now, (safer sulphur concentrate, 4 ozs per gal)
hope this makes a difference.
i hate these lil guys sooo much
I'm thinking that they came in on a clone from the OGKB 2.0 in my greenhouse. It was one that was hardest hit. There haven't been any signs of them outside in the greenhouse but I'll start treating them accordingly. yeah, shit. Ordering predators today.
Thanks guys. Always some new shit to learn.
*Edit* - That's funny that you posted those pictures Sea. I was google image searching them earlier and definitely remember seeing those two but didn't realize it was from members on here, especially Avinash.
segregate your shit...
things in flower you likely will not clean.
short bursts of excessive heat will solve the problem...
20 mins @ 120+ degrees 3-4 times will kill eggs and all.
failing the ability to do that, you'll probably need chems.
kontos, pylon, or phantom are good choices to kill
not sure how bad they'd be to smoke.
the russets are immune to "normal" shit like avid
I used kontos.
I treated my plants while I cut new clones of everything to remove as much plant material as possible... as a clone rooted (finally. they fuck with rooting too) but as they rooted, I killed the mother plants until I had nothing but clones in solos.
I treated the clones until they were big enough to clone again.
these final clones got no sprays and I returned to all natural growing.
things in flower you likely will not clean.
short bursts of excessive heat will solve the problem...
20 mins @ 120+ degrees 3-4 times will kill eggs and all.
failing the ability to do that, you'll probably need chems.
kontos, pylon, or phantom are good choices to kill
not sure how bad they'd be to smoke.
the russets are immune to "normal" shit like avid
I used kontos.
I treated my plants while I cut new clones of everything to remove as much plant material as possible... as a clone rooted (finally. they fuck with rooting too) but as they rooted, I killed the mother plants until I had nothing but clones in solos.
I treated the clones until they were big enough to clone again.
these final clones got no sprays and I returned to all natural growing.
yeah, shit. Ordering predators today.
Thanks guys. Always some new shit to learn.
*Edit* - That's funny that you posted those pictures Sea. I was google image searching them earlier and definitely remember seeing those two but didn't realize it was from members on here, especially Avinash.
unfortunately... as much as I'm a staunch advocate for beneficial predatory insects, the reality is that you're much more likely to control the pest population than you are to eradicate the pests... I dont recommend a years long battle as I've seen others do...
As far as things going inside I only have things in solo cups and the humidity dome right now. The only plants flowering are in the greenhouse. Are swiirskis not effective against russets? I had somebody on IG mention using Amblyseius andersoni mites from Bioline with success. Ever heard of those?
Christ on a cross!
$177.74!
https://www.amazon.com/INC-KONTOS-INSEC-MITICIDE-338570/dp/B005KLVDNM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467326268&sr=8-1&keywords=kontos
Somebody recommended using Flying Skull Nuke Em but I don't know how convinced I am that .05% solution of citric acid works. Seems like you can find some cheaper than this product?
$23.00 for 8 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007736WKK/ref=twister_B01B3C8K4Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have some reading to do.
$177.74!
https://www.amazon.com/INC-KONTOS-INSEC-MITICIDE-338570/dp/B005KLVDNM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467326268&sr=8-1&keywords=kontos
Somebody recommended using Flying Skull Nuke Em but I don't know how convinced I am that .05% solution of citric acid works. Seems like you can find some cheaper than this product?
$23.00 for 8 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007736WKK/ref=twister_B01B3C8K4Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have some reading to do.
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Organic ftw...fuck the chems
Edit...I was in your shoes last winter...tried some gnarly shit...organics worked better and you can feel better about using them...swirskiis are said to thrive at higher RH's...you would want to deploy some time after ipm treatment so they dont die
Edit...I was in your shoes last winter...tried some gnarly shit...organics worked better and you can feel better about using them...swirskiis are said to thrive at higher RH's...you would want to deploy some time after ipm treatment so they dont die
I agree... I also assume you've never had the pleasure of dealing with the russet mite.
I outlined how I got rid of em rapidly and that I did not finish or smoke treated chemmy plants...
If you've got experience handling them I'd love to hear about it. Many things I saw my friend try had no effect.
On the swirskiis I've heard some good reviews and some mediocre ones, but you never know the thoroughness of one person to the next. When I had hemp russets the swirskiis were only just coming out and they were cost prohibitive at the time so I do not have firsthand experience using them specifically.
Ive got pure cold pressed orange and pink grapefruit oils if you wanna try em out...
Thanks y'all. I'm hoping skiirskis can hack it in Colorado air... I'm still on the fence about what to do. Kontos is extremely spendy but so is buying up a mess of beneficials and predators. Regardless I think that predators need to be around to keep defense up after other treatments. I guess if there was ever a time to get these and deal with this shit though it would be now. Just little seedlings, clones, and cuttings to work with. I would just hate losing strains though...
And now I get to go pull tarp in the rain. If I didn't love it, I wouldn't be doing this shit.
IMO when it comes to killing insects Organic or non organic Grows they they Get Nuked with the stronges chem killer on the market end of story .. problem solved and move on no time to fuck around with organic pesticides, and predatory insects,, there to smart to kill them all and will infact start harvesting them.
kill so many then let them re establish and kill again There not going to get rid of there food source ..
Plan A
when applying organic pesticides your going to apply it 10 times Contrary to popular belief organic Farms use Chem pesticides liberally..
But in your case ?? it might kill them or might not..
Again weeks will pass by and plants suffer in the mean time they may hit a point where they just die off
Or plan B the strongest agricultural chemical pesticide that will rid the problem one application
plants will in fact have less poisons one application vs 10 + apps
and much faster recovery time and growth
But to each there own i am not here to start anything just saying comes a time when a person says you know what Fuck it there going to DIE NOW
kill so many then let them re establish and kill again There not going to get rid of there food source ..
Plan A
when applying organic pesticides your going to apply it 10 times Contrary to popular belief organic Farms use Chem pesticides liberally..
But in your case ?? it might kill them or might not..
Again weeks will pass by and plants suffer in the mean time they may hit a point where they just die off
Or plan B the strongest agricultural chemical pesticide that will rid the problem one application
plants will in fact have less poisons one application vs 10 + apps and much faster recovery time and growth
But to each there own i am not here to start anything just saying comes a time when a person says you know what Fuck it there going to DIE NOW
plantingplants
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Call Rincon Vitova regarding effective treatment with predatory mites for hemp russet. They're pretty knowledgeable and supply large farms.
Also check out Met52. I don't know much about it but I know I've heard of it being effective for hemp russets.
Also check out Met52. I don't know much about it but I know I've heard of it being effective for hemp russets.
I tried using Met52 for root aphids with little, if any success. It was a really weird super viscous oily product that struck me as kind of counter intuitive if that make sense? I'll give live critters a try this time I think. I do appreciate the feedback though
Hit the little ones with a full strength spray last night of @buildasoil essential oil blend at 15mL/gallon, seaweed extract, coconut powder, aloe vera extract, yucca, pro tekt silica, and a couple drops of dish soap. This is how they look as of right now. Very slight leaf curl on some clones but otherwise looking good. I will continue this every 3 days until predators and beneficials are ordered and arrive. I have a growmie with some kontos if things need to get nuclear. Cleaned out and disposed of weak or sickly cuts in the humidity dome. It looks like I will have at least one of everything which is all I could hope for. Thanks all y'all for the help and support.
you can find the good mite killers on amazon and ebay in .5oz repackaged bottles for 20-30 bucks.
one or 2 drops is all my sprayer takes.
I keep avid, flora mite and one other I forget in case of emergency and to treat new clones.
good luck with organics but I can't afford to re source all my gear.
it has been around a year since I had to spray, most summers I will get a few mites.
I stopped preventive spraying and only do it now after I see bugs.
i guess it would be easier in a legal state to start over but I really don't think most of the organic pest control is effective in the monoculture indoor circumstances we garden in.
nature works great in nature but our indoor and light Dep greenhouses are not natural systems.
I had root aphids 5 years ago and it ripped my garden bad so I feel for ya when you find an out of control pest problem.
hope you whip it fast.
one or 2 drops is all my sprayer takes.
I keep avid, flora mite and one other I forget in case of emergency and to treat new clones.
good luck with organics but I can't afford to re source all my gear.
it has been around a year since I had to spray, most summers I will get a few mites.
I stopped preventive spraying and only do it now after I see bugs.
i guess it would be easier in a legal state to start over but I really don't think most of the organic pest control is effective in the monoculture indoor circumstances we garden in.
nature works great in nature but our indoor and light Dep greenhouses are not natural systems.
I had root aphids 5 years ago and it ripped my garden bad so I feel for ya when you find an out of control pest problem.
hope you whip it fast.
plantingplants
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I forgot-- if you decide to go hard, then check out Forbid.
