What's the difference between smoking and ingesting Phoenix Tears capsules?

[immaculate]

Can the difference only be explained as when you consume Phoenix Tears you are simply consuming a much larger quantity of cannabinoids over a shorter period of time versus smoking, or are there essential compounds in oil that are different than what is in smoke? Is cannabis assimilated differently according to different methods of consumption? I know this is probably a "duh" question, but help this space case out! Thanks!

 

[immaculate]

Is this a really dumb question or something?

 

[Lazyman]

What's in the product? I've seen another company that sells capsules of ground up bud, my friends have to eat 8-10 of them to get high and got sick from all the cellulose.

My oil caps are devastatingly strong at 100mg of oil per.

 

[immaculate]

What's in the product? I've seen another company that sells capsules of ground up bud, my friends have to eat 8-10 of them to get high and got sick from all the cellulose.

My oil caps are devastatingly strong at 100mg of oil per.

Yeah, I'm talking about oil.

Specifically these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMvMEwpCaOA

He cures two people of cancer throughout the documentary series so far. Or so he claims.

So what is different about the effects of ingesting oil and smoking plant particulates in terms of the effects on my body and have how it is absorbed and processed?

 

[immaculate]

Myself and many others have gone through realms of so-called scientific studies which I found to be mostly double-talk and most of these studies were about synthetic THC which bears little resemblance to natural THC and its associated cannabinoids found in the hemp plant.

After studying all this scientific jargon, I had learned what amounted to nothing. But the oil continued to work the miracles so who was I to question it.

I had just about given up hope that we would ever find out why the oil worked so well for all these different medical conditions. But recently a lady named Batya Stark has provided me with what I think is all the missing pieces to the puzzle.

She has sent me a great deal of information about melatonin and the pineal gland which produces it. It seems that the pineal gland is in the driver’s seat when it comes to healing our bodies.

The melatonin it produces is an essential part of healing. When the function of the pineal gland is impaired, it produces much less melatonin and therefore we become sick and diseased.

Studies have been released that show people suffering from cancer have low levels of melatonin in their bodies. Also studies have shown that just smoking hemp can raise the melatonin levels in our bodies. So one can only imagine what the oil that is in a concentrated state can do to increase melatonin levels.

As we age we acidify and cancer thrives in an acidic environment. So bringing the body´s PH level up is very important when you are suffering from cancer and many other conditions. The oil works to do this but also other things can be of great benefit. Simple things like baking soda and lemon juice can raise the body´s PH very rapidly.

Tumors are simply the symptom of an underlying condition that is present in the bodies of people who are suffering from cancer. Indeed this underlying condition must be treated to cure the cancer and prevent it from returning.

Melatonin travels to every cell in our bodies and is the key to good health. And I am not just talking about treating cancer, it seems that melatonin levels are important to treat all conditions. Now all you have to do is connect the dots like Batya and I have; it all adds up.

Hemp oil promotes full body healing and raises melatonin levels thousands of times higher than normal. When the pineal gland produces vast amounts of melatonin, it causes no harm to the body but it is very hard on the condition you are suffering from and indeed can eliminate it. From what I can gather, all this along with your PH being raised while the oil is detoxifying your body we think causes the healing effect of this medication.

Now myself and those around me are not doctors or scientists and I like you can only wonder at why it is not them bringing this to the public. But after years of research on our part, this is the only thing we have found that connects all the dots and explains in a simple way why this medicine can do what it does.

Now we must look at what could be causing the function of our pineal gland to become impaired. Much of the time it is caused by our own lifestyles and things like cell phones that we come in contact with everyday.

Got it. But what is essentially different about the compounds and assimilation oil versus that of smoking? Like, if you smoke all the time does it eliminate cancer and sickness just a little bit less/less effectively?

 

[KonradZuse]

That's the Rick Simpson oil. RSO like any oil is a concentrated form of actives. They eat it because it lasts longer throughout the day and is better than smoking, you can smoke cannabis, but combustion destroys actives, so yes it is less efficient. Vaping oils/buds though are great and I recommend that personally.

 

[supermanlives]

ingesting in general is better and lasts longer and gets you higher. i can get way more stoned by ingesting

 

[immaculate]

But if I smoke enough, aren't I accomplishing the same effect physically in terms of curing disease?

 

[supermanlives]

some how i doubt it. but no evidence to prove . try both. i hope your not truly sick and depending on mj to cure ya. it hasnt cured quite a few of my friends that died. but it did help them .

 

[immaculate]

Not truly sick, more interested in the science behind it. Like, why is ingesting that quantity of oil so successful? This dude supposedly cured two people... http://www.youtube.com/user/CapnCannabis "Vitamin Cannabis"

 

[KonradZuse]

some how i doubt it. but no evidence to prove . try both. i hope your not truly sick and depending on mj to cure ya. it hasnt cured quite a few of my friends that died. but it did help them .

What were your friend's cases and how much did they consume? You need to consume quite a lot.

 

[jd4083]

Not to sound like a broken record, but I would imagine that the act of smoking itself would negate any possible anti-cancerous effects of the cannabinoids. I'm sure there is an argument to be made for why it isn't terribly bad for you to smoke herb in terms of physiological effects, certainly better than cigarettes -- but the bottom line is that smoke is by nature carcinogenic, be it herb smoke, tobacco smoke, burning tires...doesn't matter, literally everything causes cancer if you light it on fire and inhale it. Period, the end.

 

[Weezard]

But if I smoke enough, aren't I accomplishing the same effect physically in terms of curing disease?

Actually, no.
There are chemical differences
Terpenes can boil-off and oxidize when exposed to the heat of smoking.
THC gets' decarboxylated inefficiently when smoked, much of it gets oxidized and thus, wasted.
There are some new compounds that are created by the burning plant material as well.
They do not exist in unburned weed.
These are the minor differences.

But the main reason that smoking does not shrink tumors is blood levels.

It is physically impossible to get a high enough blood level through smokin vs. ingesting.

Believe me when I say I have tried!


Have smoked heavily, for 43 years.
Made my own hash oil in the '60s, but dipped cigarettes in it and toked 'til we fell over.

'bout 5 years ago, I turned up with a little cancer.
The kind that radiation and chemo don't fix because it grows as slow as normal tissue.
The better news is, I can monitor it's approximate mass with a blood test.
Just started making my own Phoenix tears and am taking 120mg. twice a day.
My last test was promising.

Showed slower growth which means a longer "doubling rate", which means a longer survival.
That's all I need it to do, really, it gives me back a normal life expectancy.
(Something else will wear out before the big C can take me down).

Been keeping this on the "down-low" until I have some proof of remission.
(false hope is cruel, yah?)

So, in 6 months I should know if this dosage is effective for my situation.
Either way, bet that I'll document it on ICMag and a few other boards.

Stay tuned.

Aloha,
Weezard

 

[hunt4genetics]

Weezard

Actually, no.
There are chemical differences
Terpenes can boil-off and oxidize when exposed to the heat of smoking.
THC gets' decarboxylated inefficiently when smoked, much of it gets oxidized and thus, wasted.
There are some new compounds that are created by the burning plant material as well.
They do not exist in unburned weed.
These are the minor differences.

But the main reason that smoking does not shrink tumors is blood levels.

It is physically impossible to get a high enough blood level through smokin vs. ingesting.

Believe me when I say I have tried!
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Have smoked heavily, for 43 years.
Made my own hash oil in the '60s, but dipped cigarettes in it and toked 'til we fell over.

'bout 5 years ago, I turned up with a little cancer.
The kind that radiation and chemo don't fix because it grows as slow as normal tissue.
The better news is, I can monitor it's approximate mass with a blood test.
Just started making my own Phoenix tears and am taking 120mg. twice a day.
My last test was promising.

Showed slower growth which means a longer "doubling rate", which means a longer survival.
That's all I need it to do, really, it gives me back a normal life expectancy.
(Something else will wear out before the big C can take me down).

Been keeping this on the "down-low" until I have some proof of remission.
(false hope is cruel, yah?)

So, in 6 months I should know if this dosage is effective for my situation.
Either way, bet that I'll document it on ICMag and a few other boards.

Stay tuned.

Yes.

Hang in there brother.
:} Stay strong!!!!
Aloha,
Weezard

 

[hunt4genetics]

Stay strong Brother!

 

[billy_big_bud!]

rick simpson is the man.

 

[KonradZuse]

Actually, no.
There are chemical differences
Terpenes can boil-off and oxidize when exposed to the heat of smoking.
THC gets' decarboxylated inefficiently when smoked, much of it gets oxidized and thus, wasted.
There are some new compounds that are created by the burning plant material as well.
They do not exist in unburned weed.
These are the minor differences.

But the main reason that smoking does not shrink tumors is blood levels.

It is physically impossible to get a high enough blood level through smokin vs. ingesting.

Believe me when I say I have tried!
View attachment 138741

Have smoked heavily, for 43 years.
Made my own hash oil in the '60s, but dipped cigarettes in it and toked 'til we fell over.

'bout 5 years ago, I turned up with a little cancer.
The kind that radiation and chemo don't fix because it grows as slow as normal tissue.
The better news is, I can monitor it's approximate mass with a blood test.
Just started making my own Phoenix tears and am taking 120mg. twice a day.
My last test was promising.

Showed slower growth which means a longer "doubling rate", which means a longer survival.
That's all I need it to do, really, it gives me back a normal life expectancy.
(Something else will wear out before the big C can take me down).

Been keeping this on the "down-low" until I have some proof of remission.
(false hope is cruel, yah?)

So, in 6 months I should know if this dosage is effective for my situation.
Either way, bet that I'll document it on ICMag and a few other boards.

Stay tuned.

Aloha,
Weezard

very good info, I wish you the best Weezard! I have seen a lot of articles about cannabis curing/helping with a lot of things, including cancer. I heard that people with cancer usually take about 1g a day(Depending on type and stage of course). 120mg isn't that bad though.

 

[Weezard]

Mahalo for the good wishes!

And you are right about the recommended quantity.
I'm working my way up to that dosage, but not all oil is equal, yah?

Made mine from "1 hit and quit" buds.
Yikes!
250mg. per day is all I can handle so far.
At that dosage I will not drive or make important decisions.
I'm hoping that dosage size is dependent on quality, because a full gram of this kine would put me in a coma.
Still, 60 days of playing zombie beats the hell out of most chemo regimens.

Alo = To give
Ha! = The breath of life.

Weeze

 

[KonradZuse]

Mahalo for the good wishes!

And you are right about the recommended quantity.
I'm working my way up to that dosage, but not all oil is equal, yah?

Made mine from "1 hit and quit" buds.
Yikes!
250mg. per day is all I can handle so far.
At that dosage I will not drive or make important decisions.
I'm hoping that dosage size is dependent on quality, because a full gram of this kine would put me in a coma.
Still, 60 days of playing zombie beats the hell out of most chemo regimens.

Alo = To give
Ha! = The breath of life.

Weeze

Yeah I know people who normally do 1g of oil a day, but when you exhale all of the actives it isn't as effective as eating 100% of the actives. As you said all oil is not equal, in Rick Simpson's case he grew bud in BC and distributed it using his naptha method. I do not know how potent it is compared to BHO, but it should be about the same... DO you use naptha also? I would never fuck with chemo or radiation.

My grandma just passed away from Pancriotic Cancer I think? I wanted to try phoenix tears on her but A. She wasn't the easiest to deal with and wanted to go and B. she would no doubt be very against it, and if I wanted to give it to her without her noticing I could, but I didn't think that's the best idea... It sounds messed up, but I would have loved to test phoenix tears with her.

 

[Weezard]

Does not sound "messed-up" to me.
I understand that urge.
Wanted to slip my dad some Lucy in the Sky before he passed.
Just so he would know that dying's not that big a deal.

No, I do not use Naptha.

Though the oil I made in the '60s was made with Ronsonol lighter fluid.
Which is, basically, stinky naptha.

I won't discuss my extraction method here.
But, I will tell you that Hawaii treats bubble hash the same as buds legally.
And solvent extraction is prohibited.
So, to stay legal, I convert my excess bud into bubblehash.

As for the oil extraction?
Well there are many methods, few of them are legal here.
We are kind of an iso-lated archipelago ,yah?

Aloha,
Weeze