gardenfather
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Pure naphtha can you guys show me a brand that is available,? ill have to try that then if your saying its the best way for people. I rather do it right and have results.
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Yes, you can, and I have and do use Ethanol, and isopropyl.
However, you would be better advised by someone who actually understands the process.
You have seen the weak, crappy, pale green product that "homie" produced.
Here is what the first wash, ethanol, liquid should look like;
And the finished oil looks like this;
What I'm sayin' is.
Sloppy is just not acceptable for medical grade RSO.
Anyone who wants to learn the process from a true master needs to read Graywolf's posts and threads.
He's my mentor.
Here's a sample:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=223805&highlight=Gray+Wolf
Aloha,
Weeze
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you are leaving residual Naphtha (Kleen Strip VM&T Naphtha - Home Depot. Blue 1-quart cans) in the prepared oil...you're not doing it right.[/FONT]" --R.T.
Friend, it's right in front of your nose, on this very page in fact.
What Rusty lacks in diplomacy is more than made up for in knowledge shared.
But you do have to actually read it.
Aloha
gardenfather
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Sorry wasnt sure if that was a good one or not just wanted to see what brand people are using thanks. Also i notice you said you use Ethanol, and isopropyl. Have you tried Naphtha? and which do you find produces a better medical treatment.
thanks. Also i notice you said you use Ethanol, and isopropyl. Have you tried Naphtha? and which do you find produces a better medical treatment.
gardenfather
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Wow Grey wolf is extremely knowledgeable. its great how much he knows and shared. Now do you use his method or R.S method?
Sorry wasnt sure if that was a good one or not just wanted to see what brand people are using
That's a hard call.
But I can offer opinions based on observation.
I have used Acetone; Polar:aprotic. Way too aggresive.
Iso; polar
rotic. Aggresive, but excellent when chilled to below 0.Ethanol; " If you chill it well, it gets less wax.
And Naptha; non polar. My first choice. But must be well purged.
From experiments on skin lesions it appears that all of the above produce medically active oil.
Then there's Butane.
I do not use or recommend 'tane derived oil.
If medically active, it is less so than the others.
I leave that for the recreational users.
Again, JMO, based on observation.
This is life and death for me and my friend, so I'm using only Naptha, and/or Ethanol derived oil for serious illness.
Does that help?
Aloha,
Weezard
gardenfather
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Thanks for the info, a few question. I will use Naptha for sure.
1. what do you mean by aggresive?
2. " And Naptha; non polar. My first choice. But must be well purged."
Sorry im really new to all this.
Also I hope with this treatment you are see good results and hopefully it will cure your health problems. best of luck
1. what do you mean by aggresive?
2. " And Naptha; non polar. My first choice. But must be well purged."
Sorry im really new to all this.
Also I hope with this treatment you are see good results and hopefully it will cure your health problems. best of luck
Great info's Weez.the butane thing is massive. Looking into making some for a family member.(Prostate Cancer) so the oil must be in its most potent and easily dissolved(into the body) form.
Life and death situation and he said no chemo.
and tips? Pm if you want.
mack.
Life and death situation and he said no chemo.
and tips? Pm if you want.
mack.
Thanks for the info, a few question. I will use Naptha for sure.
1. what do you mean by aggresive?
Strips out more than you wanted.
For word definitions, wiki works well.
2. " And Naptha; non polar. My first choice. But must be well purged."
Non polar.
Basically, that means it leaves water solubles components behind.
And well purged, means removing all of the residual solvent.
Sorry im really new to all this.
We all were at some point.
Took many hours of study just to learn the language of chemistry.
Then it gets easier.
Also I hope with this treatment you are see good results and hopefully it will cure your health problems. best of luck
Thank you.
If not, it won't be from lack of trying.
Aloha,
W.
ok after reading up looks like I should use the naphtha and wash the plant material twice(3 min soak times),then wash the oil 3 times with isopropyl???or grey wolf does this only for hexthane??? im looking for the best method here guys any other links would be nice.i also belive outdoor bud is much better than indoor.i think the suns ray develop the resin profile to its fullest due to its spectrum???im looking to help heal myself and others.i don't have the details yet about my illness but shit aint looking to good.want the best method.also nutrition seems to be key.hemp seeds,wheat grass juice looks to be tits
ok after reading up looks like I should use the naphtha and wash the plant material twice(3 min soak times),then wash the oil 3 times with isopropyl???
The 3 minute wash is for alcohols.
Naphtha can be done at room temperature and is not as time critical because it is a less aggressive solvent.
G.W. then redissolves the oil in Ethanol and winterizes, (hard freezes).
Then he does a vacuum filtration to remove waxes.
I do not have his resources, or his budget so I eat a little wax.
Naphtha has a lower BP than water, so I use Rick's, trick.
Just add a few drops of water at the end and boil it back off.
That does a decent purge.
You should probably read it over several times before you get started.
Make sure that you thoroughly under stand the process.
Aloha,
Weezard
or grey wolf does this only for hexthane??? im looking for the best method here guys any other links would be nice.
Just google "run from the cure" and follow the instructions.
i also belive outdoor bud is much better than indoor.i think the suns ray develop the resin profile to its fullest due to its spectrum???im looking to help heal myself and others.i don't have the details yet about my illness but shit aint looking to good.want the best method.also nutrition seems to be key.hemp seeds,wheat grass juice looks to be tits
Nutrition is important for whatever ails you.
And hemp seed is an excellent source of Omega-6 and Omega-3.
Be well,
Weeze
gardenfather
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Weezard Im going to be doing some research over the next year, with high CBD plants and High THC plants, If I can get some amazing results with this, I will provide you will all the info and hopefully it can help you with any of your health problems. you've been so awesome with helping me with all the questions iv ask here. Thanks so much. All the best
Gardenfather. Im actually going to contact my government and see if I can open up a lab and dedicate my time to medical research with cannabis. Ill have to go back to school and take botany and biology probably to get approved but its well with it to help save peoples lives. My parents both have crazy medical problems and now knowing what I know about cannabis, Id love to do everything I can to research the heck out of it and find something that can help.
Weeze can you recommand any books on botany or weed botany. Id love to learn everything there is from the biology of it to the chemistry of it. Also books on how to use tools to test and get good research out of it.
Gardenfather. Im actually going to contact my government and see if I can open up a lab and dedicate my time to medical research with cannabis. Ill have to go back to school and take botany and biology probably to get approved but its well with it to help save peoples lives. My parents both have crazy medical problems and now knowing what I know about cannabis, Id love to do everything I can to research the heck out of it and find something that can help.
Weeze can you recommand any books on botany or weed botany
. Id love to learn everything there is from the biology of it to the chemistry of it. Also books on how to use tools to test and get good research out of it.Play4Keepz
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Wow I just read thru this whole thread and it was quite an eye opener. So butane seems to be too selective? Amazing potos Weezard. You and RT are a wealth of knowledge. To quote RT: "Kleen Strip VM&T Naphtha - Home Depot. Blue 1-quart cans"
In case you missed it... I sure didnt. I would give both of you +rep, but unfortunately I am still a peon in the world of IC. Time to check out GW's threads. Thanks tons -Keepz
In case you missed it... I sure didnt. I would give both of you +rep, but unfortunately I am still a peon in the world of IC. Time to check out GW's threads. Thanks tons -Keepz
Weeze can you recommand any books on botany or weed botany
Wish I could but for the last 20 years I've been internet educated.
Books might be mo' betta, but they're not in my budget.
I squander my wealth on food and insurance.
I envy your ambitions.
Learn to use the search engines well, and you will soon be writing your own books.
Aloha,
Weezard.
Sort of.
It's a theory of mine based on limited observation.
I noted that remission of visible lesions stalled when I switched to Butane derived oil.
Then resumed when I was able to obtain some Naptha derived oil.
My glioma patient had no growth for a year, then switched to Butane derived oil, and started having seizures from swelling of the white matter.
Found him some Naptha derived oil and he seems to be recovering.
I do not do this lightly. The 'tane oil was being supplied pro-bono.
The Naptha oil, while inexpensive, is still beyond my means to continue.
I contacted GW by e-mail and he gave me a "better" e-mail address.
Sent an e-mail detailing my concerns to that address about 3 weeks ago, but he has not replied.
Don't want to be a pest, so I'll wait another week and maybe try again.
Aloha,
Weezard
gardenfather
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Weezard, Question for you, are you using any lab tools like vacuums. or jsut doing it the R.S way? like the video tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KZXGH6mYr3Y ?
Sorry for bothering you just need to know for sure im doing it right, I just found out my mom medical issues is getting worse. ( brain problems ) So I really need to do this right.
Sorry for bothering you just need to know for sure im doing it right, I just found out my mom medical issues is getting worse. ( brain problems ) So I really need to do this right.
