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What is Skunk?
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I'm thinking they're the same person. They both have mentioned developing a way to self females to develop pure chemotype strains and they're both given credit for developing skunk 1. If sam isn't (edit)then he's even less credible IMO because he's taking credit for something that isn't even his and talking complete fiction.
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RoadKill Skunk
RoadKill Skunk
I posted this last night in the wrong forum originally. So I copied and pasted it here. Going to erase where it was, as I had two ICMag windows open looking at two different topics related to skunk.
I do not have any experience on growing, but I have seen many plants in the past. There was a lot of good skunk going around in from 1980's till about the late 90's. I got to smoke a lot of that skunk during the mid 90's. The description I have of the stuff that I once had is similar to what everyone has mentioned on here. The skunk that I smoked was of a darker green color as compared to the lime green Skunk#1. That MJ was almost totally absent of any hairs. I mean, I saw no hairs whatsoever! It had a pretty hefty amount of crystals on it, and the colas were very elongated and sativa like. It smelled of roadkill. It smelled so bad, to where I had 1/4 ounce in my trunk, and the girl in my front seat could smell it throughout the car. I will also mention that I had a Sedan, not a hatchback. She couldn't believe that 1/4 ounce of weed smelled that bad, and she got out of the car. When she went back there, she was shocked. This girl thought I had several pounds of weed back there, when I only had a quarter. Does anyone have any idea what this strain might have been? It was a darker green, no hairs, lots of crystal, strong skunk smell, elongated/tight/thick colas and buds. Maybe it wasn't skunk? But sure smelled like one!
I have read that Skunk#1 doesn't grow very well above and/or around the 39 deg N.latitude in the US. Due to it's sativa makeup and lack of chlorophyll, it is hard to get a good crop when grown in the northern states. I would say that where you are situated in the country, your type of roadkill skunk would differ slightly from place to place. I would imagine that anyone above 39 deg lat, would grow an indica x skunk cross in order for it to finish ontime or fully ripen. That would say that this border is the Mason Dixon Line. I'd imagine that NL or an afghan would have been crossed with skunk in order to make it finish faster in temperate climates above 39deg lat.
Many people say that if you want skunky type skunk is to go with the IBL afghan or one of it's crosses. I would have to agree. I would say that the skunk I had was one with some afghan crossed into it. I would imagine that if you took skunk#1 or an afghan/skunk cross, and bred a different skunk, afghan, and/or afghan/skunk cross into the original plant you had, that your next generation seeds would be bound to have some sort of skunky smell attribute.
Now here are the list of afghan/skunk & NL/skunk crosses:
Maple Leaf Indica
Lavender
Shiva Skunk
Critical Mass
Super Skunk
Shit
Afghanica
Devil
Mazar
Chronic
Warlock
Americano
Mangolian Indica
Some Burmese strains have been classified as being true roadkill skunky and can be bred into skunk IBL or Afghan/Skunk:
RM Burmese Pure
TH Burmese Kush
JOI Ambrosia
Also I have read grow reports that most white widow's and it's crosses like white rhino or white russian tend to have a skunky aroma, which may be useful for a breeder to arrive at a RK skunk hybrid. Does anyone else have an idea as to how one might be able to find a true RK skunk? Can it be found in an skunk IBL batch? I still think that it is a indica/skunk hybrid. What if we took the original Colombian Gold cross it with an super smelly Afghan, the crossed that to the Acapulco Gold plant to create a more original Skunk, but instead bred it for it's SKUNK smell rather than inbreed it for it's sweet smell?
What are the good IBL Afghans out there besides the very pricey Deep Chunk and RM Petrolia Headstash? Some people say that Sensi's Afghan is good, while others say it isn't as green/skunky as they would like it to be? How about Homegrown Fantaseeds Afghan? How does it stack up? Can anyone else list any other good stinky IBL Afghans out there that are of reasonable price?
This is a great thread, and it's awesome that people out there love the RK skunk! I thought the sweet smell is not true to skunk. Does anyone else have any more ideas about getting the true skunk?
DarkGreen
RoadKill Skunk
I posted this last night in the wrong forum originally. So I copied and pasted it here. Going to erase where it was, as I had two ICMag windows open looking at two different topics related to skunk.
I do not have any experience on growing, but I have seen many plants in the past. There was a lot of good skunk going around in from 1980's till about the late 90's. I got to smoke a lot of that skunk during the mid 90's. The description I have of the stuff that I once had is similar to what everyone has mentioned on here. The skunk that I smoked was of a darker green color as compared to the lime green Skunk#1. That MJ was almost totally absent of any hairs. I mean, I saw no hairs whatsoever! It had a pretty hefty amount of crystals on it, and the colas were very elongated and sativa like. It smelled of roadkill. It smelled so bad, to where I had 1/4 ounce in my trunk, and the girl in my front seat could smell it throughout the car. I will also mention that I had a Sedan, not a hatchback. She couldn't believe that 1/4 ounce of weed smelled that bad, and she got out of the car. When she went back there, she was shocked. This girl thought I had several pounds of weed back there, when I only had a quarter. Does anyone have any idea what this strain might have been? It was a darker green, no hairs, lots of crystal, strong skunk smell, elongated/tight/thick colas and buds. Maybe it wasn't skunk? But sure smelled like one!
I have read that Skunk#1 doesn't grow very well above and/or around the 39 deg N.latitude in the US. Due to it's sativa makeup and lack of chlorophyll, it is hard to get a good crop when grown in the northern states. I would say that where you are situated in the country, your type of roadkill skunk would differ slightly from place to place. I would imagine that anyone above 39 deg lat, would grow an indica x skunk cross in order for it to finish ontime or fully ripen. That would say that this border is the Mason Dixon Line. I'd imagine that NL or an afghan would have been crossed with skunk in order to make it finish faster in temperate climates above 39deg lat.
Many people say that if you want skunky type skunk is to go with the IBL afghan or one of it's crosses. I would have to agree. I would say that the skunk I had was one with some afghan crossed into it. I would imagine that if you took skunk#1 or an afghan/skunk cross, and bred a different skunk, afghan, and/or afghan/skunk cross into the original plant you had, that your next generation seeds would be bound to have some sort of skunky smell attribute.
Now here are the list of afghan/skunk & NL/skunk crosses:
Maple Leaf Indica
Lavender
Shiva Skunk
Critical Mass
Super Skunk
Shit
Afghanica
Devil
Mazar
Chronic
Warlock
Americano
Mangolian Indica
Some Burmese strains have been classified as being true roadkill skunky and can be bred into skunk IBL or Afghan/Skunk:
RM Burmese Pure
TH Burmese Kush
JOI Ambrosia
Also I have read grow reports that most white widow's and it's crosses like white rhino or white russian tend to have a skunky aroma, which may be useful for a breeder to arrive at a RK skunk hybrid. Does anyone else have an idea as to how one might be able to find a true RK skunk? Can it be found in an skunk IBL batch? I still think that it is a indica/skunk hybrid. What if we took the original Colombian Gold cross it with an super smelly Afghan, the crossed that to the Acapulco Gold plant to create a more original Skunk, but instead bred it for it's SKUNK smell rather than inbreed it for it's sweet smell?
What are the good IBL Afghans out there besides the very pricey Deep Chunk and RM Petrolia Headstash? Some people say that Sensi's Afghan is good, while others say it isn't as green/skunky as they would like it to be? How about Homegrown Fantaseeds Afghan? How does it stack up? Can anyone else list any other good stinky IBL Afghans out there that are of reasonable price?
This is a great thread, and it's awesome that people out there love the RK skunk! I thought the sweet smell is not true to skunk. Does anyone else have any more ideas about getting the true skunk?
DarkGreen
if you guys want me to, I can try to find this guy I knew that has the old school roadkill skunk pheno. He is a hardcore biker type. It may be kind of tough to find him. I would have to go through a guy I am not very fond of. Plus the grower has been ripped off from a grow, and he may not even have those genetics anymore, but it's worth a shot. I am sure that he wouldn't mind. I sure hope he has that pheno after all these years.
In my circle in the late 80's to early/mid 90's (he kept growing it long after I'd stopped associating with him) the hairless skunk was called donkey dick. I was working as a masonry helper at the time. My boss who was a contractor was partners with a real estate developer who was a very large scale grower of the donkey dick. At one point I used to get the shit for 100 an oz (the same price that most people were getting bricked bud. In the south at the time a few people even viewed herb that wasn't bricked as unprofessionally grown and inferior)and have probably had 100's of lbs of it pass through my hands. This guy was literally burying 50 gallon barrels of both this stuff and cash on the various plots of real estate. Needless to say it is the donkey dick that I'm very nostalgic of. Around the early/mid 90's he started having the herb he kept as personal which was a different probably dutch strain as it had a very similar smell and look to it as the herb my snowboarding friends had just brought back from truckee near reno, nv but in cali. I believe over the next few years since the hairless skunk was starting to decline in quality he hybridized the seeds for his personal herb with the hairless skunk and ended up making it worse than either. Two years ago he was busted. It was discovered in an fbi investigation that he'd bought the local sherrif a house and given the local prosecutor and narcotics detective over a hundred grand each. It was a regular redneck mob good ol' boy system. He's still around but a very sketchy individual. That's part of my problem getting seeds. Many of these guys are involved with either heroin, coke, or amphetamines and giving them any clue that I grow wouldn't be wise. However I just talked to one of my old buddies today and I got him pretty excited about it. He's going to contact a bunch of memebers of our old gang to dig up seeds of the hairless skunk. I've gotten some from the post hybrid period which were just useless but I'm confident I'll be able to get a few even if they're from after the potency had started to decline and they have to by hybridized I'm sure it'll still be workable. I'll keep everyone posted on this
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kanebosem said:
yep thats it... got 2 plants, 2 phenos. the stink one is more sativaTime2Unite said:
http://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?recnumber=816
redrider
Active member
ColombianXAfghan
ColombianXAfghan
Here's my feeble attempt at making a skunk plant. The mother originated in the mountains near Santa Marta Colombia and the father came from my first pack of bought seeds (Nirvana Afghan). The resulting plant was "skunky" in smell and taste but not over powering or pure, there is also a strong "fuel" flavor. The high is strong and comes on pretty quick but seems dull and makes me feel slow and sluggish. However much of the euphoria from the Colombian has come though, it's just is more of a body type sensation. It does have a strong smell but not nearly as strong as the so called skunk that I had in the SE USA about 15 years ago and it's really not a pure skunk smell. I crossed another Afghan male with a different Colombian and I hope it turns out better.
Mother plant (Colombian)
Mother plant (Colombian)
Hybrid 1
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Hybrid 2
Peace from Colombia!
ColombianXAfghan
Here's my feeble attempt at making a skunk plant. The mother originated in the mountains near Santa Marta Colombia and the father came from my first pack of bought seeds (Nirvana Afghan). The resulting plant was "skunky" in smell and taste but not over powering or pure, there is also a strong "fuel" flavor. The high is strong and comes on pretty quick but seems dull and makes me feel slow and sluggish. However much of the euphoria from the Colombian has come though, it's just is more of a body type sensation. It does have a strong smell but not nearly as strong as the so called skunk that I had in the SE USA about 15 years ago and it's really not a pure skunk smell. I crossed another Afghan male with a different Colombian and I hope it turns out better.
Mother plant (Colombian)
Mother plant (Colombian)
Hybrid 1
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Hybrid 2
Peace from Colombia!
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Beautiful buds there Red... I hope you find success!
Mais~
Mais~
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Hola Red,
Beutifull work my friend. What is the local name of the plant in the second picture please? What a classic Colombian.
All the bests, Flowers
Beutifull work my friend. What is the local name of the plant in the second picture please? What a classic Colombian.
All the bests, Flowers
redrider
Active member
Hola HHF, the local name for the plant in the pic would be "mota" or thats what it was given to me as (the mj was grown in the coastal mountains near Santa Marta). There was no fancy name or specific color. I call it coastal green because it was almost bright green and had a remarkable high. Here's a pic of the bud the seed came from for the purple mother plant in the above pic.
Santa Marta "bud" 06
Santa Marta "bud" 06
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Thank you Red.
Bests, Flowers
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i found a seed in the island sweet skunk i bought...tiny healthy seed...i thought the old school skunk had giant seeds
GoodbyeBlueSky
Active member
Rezdog said:
thought i would include Rezdog's conclusions on Sam...
originally posted by the Skunkman on OG,August 30th,2005
Thread:Skunk is not "old school".An opinion from an old man. :smile:
"Mr Grimbo,
The real difference is not in the potency.It is in the smell.But the old Skunk,the Skunky one pre 1980 was much more physical and less mental and up.I prefered sweet clear and up skunks,and as I created Skunk #1 that is where they went,to sweet end.I still have the old skunky smelling lines but to be truthfull they were never ansd are not as popular as the sweet ones. So I don't make them and it seems that no one else saved any even though they breed true. Or maybe they only made hybrids? Or maybe did not save any of the Skunky male Skunks? Funny if they were so good that no one saved any?
Also funny how Mr. Grimbo don't like Skunk, he has the right of course, but when Skunk was first offered to the Cannabis growing community it was loved because I could be grown outdoors and it would finish, while all of the old school Columbians did not finish and you ended up with a big green unflowered crap that was a joke. That was before indoor under light growing, once indoor started no one wanted late strechy Sativas, they wanted early fat clones with indica blood in them. I know there are a few growers with Sativas but the vast majority wanted fast short and powerful so they got what they wanted. Even the Haze Brothers quit growing Haze and started growing Skunk #1, it was easier, faster and yielded more. I liked Haze better but, you can't argue with seed customers, the customer is always right in my book.
Different seeds for different needs.
Skunk #1 was not about greed, it was developed as an open pollinated hybrid that breeds true so you do not need to buy the seeds again, that is the truth. (This was before clones). How many seed producers today even bother to try and make a variety that breeds true?. Almost all are F1 hybrids that do not breed true. Because then you needed to rebuy the seeds frome the breeder again. How growers used the Skunk was up to them, they could be greedy or not. I you do not like Skunkified weed then grow or buy something different, what can I say? Why do you think that much weed is Skunkified, it is because Skunk is so easy to make great hybrids with.
Don't be a hater, do something about what you do not like, make a variety that you are proud of and pass it and the clones and seeds out for free to everyone, but you will see, rightaway someone will cross it with Skunk and then it will be the same old greedy Skunk hybrids, life is like that. It is not the weed that is greedy after all, it the people, don't you think?
And by the way if someone is a 20 year old then Skunk #1 or Original Haze is Old School, from more than a generation ago, longer then you have been alive. It is all matter of how old you are, 15 or 100. To a 100 year ald the Mexican and Columbian in the 60's and 70's were not old school, maybe the Mezz was? The Mezz was the best weed in the 20's in the USA. To me that is old school...
-SamS
Thread:Skunk is not "old school".An opinion from an old man. :smile:
"Mr Grimbo,
The real difference is not in the potency.It is in the smell.But the old Skunk,the Skunky one pre 1980 was much more physical and less mental and up.I prefered sweet clear and up skunks,and as I created Skunk #1 that is where they went,to sweet end.I still have the old skunky smelling lines but to be truthfull they were never ansd are not as popular as the sweet ones. So I don't make them and it seems that no one else saved any even though they breed true. Or maybe they only made hybrids? Or maybe did not save any of the Skunky male Skunks? Funny if they were so good that no one saved any?
Also funny how Mr. Grimbo don't like Skunk, he has the right of course, but when Skunk was first offered to the Cannabis growing community it was loved because I could be grown outdoors and it would finish, while all of the old school Columbians did not finish and you ended up with a big green unflowered crap that was a joke. That was before indoor under light growing, once indoor started no one wanted late strechy Sativas, they wanted early fat clones with indica blood in them. I know there are a few growers with Sativas but the vast majority wanted fast short and powerful so they got what they wanted. Even the Haze Brothers quit growing Haze and started growing Skunk #1, it was easier, faster and yielded more. I liked Haze better but, you can't argue with seed customers, the customer is always right in my book.
Different seeds for different needs.
Skunk #1 was not about greed, it was developed as an open pollinated hybrid that breeds true so you do not need to buy the seeds again, that is the truth. (This was before clones). How many seed producers today even bother to try and make a variety that breeds true?. Almost all are F1 hybrids that do not breed true. Because then you needed to rebuy the seeds frome the breeder again. How growers used the Skunk was up to them, they could be greedy or not. I you do not like Skunkified weed then grow or buy something different, what can I say? Why do you think that much weed is Skunkified, it is because Skunk is so easy to make great hybrids with.
Don't be a hater, do something about what you do not like, make a variety that you are proud of and pass it and the clones and seeds out for free to everyone, but you will see, rightaway someone will cross it with Skunk and then it will be the same old greedy Skunk hybrids, life is like that. It is not the weed that is greedy after all, it the people, don't you think?
And by the way if someone is a 20 year old then Skunk #1 or Original Haze is Old School, from more than a generation ago, longer then you have been alive. It is all matter of how old you are, 15 or 100. To a 100 year ald the Mexican and Columbian in the 60's and 70's were not old school, maybe the Mezz was? The Mezz was the best weed in the 20's in the USA. To me that is old school...
-SamS
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Word.
Thanks Raco was looking for that.
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