What is Skunk?

[Raco]

Here are the "type 2" cuttings:


and the "type 1"

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Leaf shape is controlled by many factors both genotypical and phenotypical as well as age, size, photoperiod. It is hard for me to comment without knowing all the factors involved.
As for clones taken from the same mom having different smells and taste, that is hard to explain. Maybe spontaneous sport or mutation? It does happen sometimes, but not very often, not enough to worry about.
I am not trying to be critical but how many different plants did you make clones from? Is there any chance clones could of got mislabled? Did you take the clones yourself? Did you have any other clones around?
Clone them both, type 1 & 2 the same day and veg and flower them see if they act different or have different smells or taste. They should not.
I have kept hundreds of clones for years and years and it has not happened to me that I know of.

-SamS

 

[ndnguy]

Time to get me a couple of pet skunks and spray my finished bud ,make a few billion and retire.

 

[Evolution]

Mr. Nevermind,
"but most people would prefer the RKS over a sweet smelling pheno."

WRONG, the high from sweet Skunk #1 is much nicer then the Skunky Skunk #1 or #2. The Skunk #2 was more skunky, and a little bit stronger. Nice if you want to lay on a couch, and vegetate, I like the sweet up clear high of the sweet Skunk #1 much better and so do the majority of growers. If the skunky one was all that was available then the growers would all be screaming for the sweet Skunk #1.
Maybe I will reintroduce Skunk #2 the skunky one but to be honest it is not imporant to me, I am busy with other goals.

"RKS is a true gem that may be lost forever. I am sure some old hippie somwhere has a cut of it. "

Maybe, but I doubt it. But I do still have it.

"the smell is ****in awful the high puts you on your ass, aint nothing sweet about it . Skunk #1 aint skunk to me and many others who have tried RKS. the only strain that should be called skunk smells like a ****ing skunk, not sweet, hence the name"

Well, I named the strain in 1976 and I decided on Skunk #1 if you don't like it then what can I say? Make a better 3 way stable Indica/Sativa hybrid and name it the real Skunky RKS, good luck....
It will still not be what you want....
And it will not be stable.

"i am surprised no breeder has tried to find and work RKS. Anyone wanting to win a cup need only to enter RKS. i dont care how rigged the cup is, RKS would win hands down ."


In case you forgot 20 years ago I won the first High Tines Cup with Skunk #1, it was skunky and sweet. Then I dropped out of the Cup as it became more about sales then quality. And I do not need the sales.


unicorn,
"skunk is in a lot of strains...but true skunk it seems nobody grows anymore...i personally wont grow anything but low odor strains"

This is your loss, low odor strains are not as strong or stony, that is a fact.


Time2Unite,
"people were talking about skunk before sam the skunkman and had skunk before sam the skunkman"

Are you joking? Who was selling seeds of Skunk before me? NO ONE.

"tell me why everyone thats smoked ass loads of all these strains STILL says roadkill skunk is some of the best if not the very best weed they've ever smoked....no one has seen it in years and you could never buy the seeds commercially but everyone still talks about it non stop.....imagine how many people would be talking about it if someone got some."

Are you joking? I had the best what you call RKS, and I did not even smoke it much, I had much stronger Original Haze with a much nicer high to me. What you call RKS was very popular with the blue collar types, although they liked Afghani #1 even better because you could not walk, it made you a cripple.
I like to get high not loaded, but to each their own....
Different smokes for different folks.

"either that or it choked itself out from inbreeding depression, thats what happened to the people that i knew that grew it for 10+ yrs.....one yr it wasn't as good, every yr after that it got worse until there was no point to keeping it."

What are you refering to? Making seeds every year? If you mean the clone got worse year after year, I don't know the problem, it is not imbreeding depression, as maintaining a clone does not involve inbreeding at all. I have the same clones for 20 years and see no differences at all. Zero! Clones can pick up a virus which will lower health and yield. Don't use infected clones to make progeny clones or seeds.

"sorry but "sams" skunk is not skunk.....i don't care if people think he's the skunkman...your not the skunkman if you don't have real skunk....put that in your canna history pipe and smoke it. sams the father of a sweet plant, which shouldn't be called skunk, why would you ever call a sweet plant skunk? it's the most ignorant thing i've ever heard to be honest. when you name a strain it should have some meaning or resemblence of the name you gave it.
no knock on you or sam but come on, to name a fruity sweet plant skunk if funny. no other strain in the world has such a wrong name....period."

Your ignorence is astounding. When Skunk #1 was named it was skunky as hell, even a rolled joint in a baggie could be smelled in the whole room. It took me ten years to make it sweet like I like. with an up clear high, strong as hell. I like it for hash, as I don't smoke much pot. Although Skunk is much sweeter now it is the same strain, looks the same except it is a bit less leaf then before, and the smells have changed as well as the high.

"it's all a marketing scam imo, how many people bought "skunk" thinking they were gonna get a well known stinky skunky ass strain? why else would you buy skunk? the plan worked to perfection...millions of people bought the strain."

You are either confused or plain stupid, people bought the strain because it grows great Cannabis and everyone knew it. Most growers would prefer the sweet version, a few growers that do not want to get high, but would prefer to get loaded like the skunky version, but as I have not sold the skunky ones for 20 years, a lot of the talk is theoretical.

"if reeferman bring it back then he's the man, anyone that brings this strain back will be famous in the canna community, it would go down in history."

Been there, done that....

"people were talking about skunk before sam the skunkman and had skunk before sam the skunkman"

Can you please tell me the skunky varieties that were offered as seeds before Skunk #1?

"if T2U was the skunkman we'd be wondering where the sweet fruity pheno was, i don't know how anyone would think the sweet fruity pheno is more desirable then the stanky skunk pheno."

If T2U was the skunkman we would not have sweet skunk or skunky RKS skunk, lets be honest here....
How many Skunks have you grown? I have grown millions, not hundreds, millions of from seed Skunk #1 plants.
It is one thing to sit at your computer and rant, it is another thing to actually do something real like make a new hybrid, as for making a 3 way hybrid that is stable as Skunk #1, good luck, you will need it.

British_Hempire,

"UK Cheese is almost certainly Skunk x Afghan rather than a pheno of Skunk #1. I reckon a good Skunk x Afghan is far closer to the roadkill that Skunk #1.

To me Cheese is just a skunk, it sure smells like a pure Skunk #1. Maybe you know better?

HothouseFlowers,
"'Skunk' was initially a name for a strong smelling line of hybridised and acclimatised Pure Sativas grown in California by the Mother Earth communes in the mid to late 60s. I believe these where all South American lines in the genetic mix."
"Just like Haze, Skunk was a generic term used in these ME communes. BOEL marketed crops sold as Skunk prior to 1970..enterprising seed dealers utillised the names to reflect el primo products of the day, just as happens now.."


A pure Sativa that smelled like Skunk? California Communes growing Skunk in the early 60's?
Haze a generic name? BOEL grew very small amounts of weed, mostly in Hawaii.
The name Original Haze was made up by R.L. around 1970, I made up the Skunk #1 name. People did offer herbal Cannabis with the description skunky, indica, kush, afghani, but no one had the seeds to offer, except the BOEL, but they did not understand breeding or conservation. Most of the seeds they traded were imported Landraces or unstable hybrids and are gone today. They were hybridized out of exsistence.
-SamS

Just because you have the right to does not mean you should. People that spend a lot of time calling other people names, have something wrong with them, I suspect.
-SamS

 

[motaco]

poor sam. so much work and he's gotta get flamed on.

sam has helped out alot of people. I'll show you a pic to help illustrate this a lil later.

 

[Raco]

I am not trying to be critical but how many different plants did you make clones from? Is there any chance clones could of got mislabled? Did you take the clones yourself? Did you have any other clones around?
Clone them both, type 1 & 2 the same day and veg and flower them see if they act different or have different smells or taste. They should not.
I have kept hundreds of clones for years and years and it has not happened to me that I know of.

-SamS

Sam,
yes,I took the cuttings myself...4 to be exact.Here´s the mother:
The four lowest branches were removed




the original seedling.
I had this PTK only,and I´m 100% sure about the clones.
Will post more pics
sorry,I know I´m going off-topic....

 

[Guest]

some skunk#1 pics for Sam_Skunkman
Sam ... if you see these plants i want you to know that around here, we think this marijuana is great & we KNOW what good herb is to smoke & grow, we do not grow plants that don't perform & your skunk is a winner... i can not understand how/why anyone would rag on this strain ... your work is VERY appreciated by everyone of my friends who have her ... thank you very much !

















peace from star crash

 

[cjk]

my friend has a friend who grows super skunk. About 2 yrs. ago that shit stank just like a skunk. now its sweet piney kinda hashy smell but no skunk smell at all

 

[Red_Nine]

Does he use the same mother plant and take clones, or does he seed his crop every year? If he's seeding his crop, he would have to select for the skunk smell, as alot of that part of the current skunk strains has been bred out of them. Curious to know how he does it.

 

[cjk]

my friend says he uses clones off the same mother that hes always had.

 

[Farmer John]

some skunk#1 pics for Sam_Skunkman
Sam ... if you see these plants i want you to know that around here, we think this marijuana is great & we KNOW what good herb is to smoke & grow, we do not grow plants that don't perform & your skunk is a winner... i can not understand how/why anyone would rag on this strain ... your work is VERY appreciated by everyone of my friends who have her ... thank you very much !

















peace from star crash

A great example of a great strain, like its said, they dont make jews like jesus anymore = people really dont make strains like skunk anymore, it's all about sales, hype and small population plant **** these days, gotta make a change and there are a few people that still do large populations and real breeding, peace.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

Just because you have the right to does not mean you should. People that spend a lot of time calling other people names, have something wrong with them, I suspect.
-SamS

Its a bit annoying that my posts were cut and pasted and are all over every thread. Do me a favor and if you want to copy my posts, copy the entire thing, not just the parts you can take out and use out of context. If you notice i never called Sam any names and in fact i believe i was quite respectful of him. I have a great deal fo respect for Sam as a person and as a breeder, always have always will . But to imply that my asking him about a strain of his lost in time that is quite popular today was disrespectful or calling him names needs to grow up. It was a conversation between two men that was civil. Same as people asking Rez uestions about his lines and asking for a favorite they havent sen for a while ( like the G4)

Sam did his breeding in the 80's and so on to cater to the growers needs at that time. They liked the sweet so he bred the sweet. I was just a bit baffled as to why ,since trends have changed, he doenst have the desire to loook for RKS. its his choice not to and he mad that clear. No big deal.

But to sit on a soap box and cut and paste things out of context and implying that i was calling names and being disrespectful is a bit childish. grow up guys








Nevermind

 

[usda101]

i wonder that myself... you always hear these guys looking for the 'roadkill' skunk... who wants to smoke weed that smells like something foul?

anyway, i've smoked more than a dozen different Skunk hybrids and every single one has been sweet...

Lemon skunk taste great ,an there's no mistaking the aroma of it . When you smell it... you know it's skunk. I keep it in the line up !