What is Skunk?

[Elevator Man]

it's no wonder Sam doesn't post here more often the way he got treated... the guy's basically the father of modern cannabis breeding and here he has people telling him he doesn't know shit... honestly, whos got more cred...

Exactly - it's hard enough getting to communicate with breeders such as Sam, for obvious reasons, and I for one relished the opportunity to start up some discussion - this is the perfect place and situation to figure out all this - and like nomadic mentioned - it's not as though any of the building blocks are missing to make it again, if it's really that important.

And if I can find one pheno out of three that doesn't come close to the fruity sweet 'ruined' version, then isn't it just possible that the RKS pheno still exists anyway? I keep mentioning this fact, that there are other phenos than the sweet, fruity ones (as I have one), but no-one seems to notice...

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

WRONG, the high from sweet Skunk #1 is much nicer then the Skunky Skunk #1 or #2. The Skunk #2 was more skunky, and a little bit stronger. Nice if you want to lay on a couch, and vegetate, I like the sweet up clear high of the sweet Skunk #1 much better and so do the majority of growers. If the skunky one was all that was available then the growers would all be screaming for the sweet Skunk #1.
Maybe I will reintroduce Skunk #2 the skunky one but to be honest it is not imporant to me, I am busy with other goals.

Well how can you call me wrong when you say yourself that skunk 2 ( the skunky one) is a little bit stronger? So you like a sweet up high, thats good if you are breeding just for you. But since you sell beans i would ask the customers what they prefer. some peopel are looking for a stong high that will put you on the couch.



Well, I named the strain in 1976 and I decided on Skunk #1 if you don't like it then what can I say? Make a better 3 way stable Indica/Sativa hybrid and name it the real Skunky RKS, good luck....
It will still not be what you want....
And it will not be stable.


Boy, you really know how to be posative dont you, captain pessamism.


I learned absolutely nothing from Sam's post other than that he's arrogant and egotistical. I read too many negative reviews of the Sam the Skunkman freebies to place much credence in anything he says. Maybe he was great once, a long, long time ago. Maybe. What year is it now?



Pretty much. Seemed like a jerk to me. He admitted the RKS is stronger and put you down yet decided to breed a sweeter smelling one that wont put you on your ass. I dont grow for flavors , i grow for highs and if one is clearly stronger than the other i choose the stronger. RKS is stronger than the sweet skunk#1 that is available and that is exacttly the point time2unte and myself were trying to make. Sam came by and proved myself and time correct that it is stronger yet no longer available. and now we have a less strong, sweet smelling plant called skunk thats odor is nothing like that of a true skunk. That the whole point of the thread. Sam confirmed Time and I's points yet wont release the stronger of the two. Yet antoher reason why i wont purchase any strain called skunk. Sweet dont smell like skunk. Skunk smells like skunk.









Nevermind

 

[GoodbyeBlueSky]

so he's surly and direct... i know many who would describe Rez the same way... how did you expect him to react being as how his name had already been dragged through the mud by T2U before he even posted...

and don't mistake potency for quality of high as they are two very different things...

If the skunky one was all that was available then the growers would all be screaming for the sweet Skunk #1.

this sums up the point of the thread quite well... not much else to say...

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

so he's surly and direct... i know many who would describe Rez the same way...

and don't mistake potency for quality of high as they are two very different things...

I have no problem with surly or direct. Rez is very direct but i have no problem ewiththat. i do have a problem when i have been saying RKS is stronger than skunk #1 and sam chimes in and says i am wrong and goes to say that RKS is stronger. Dont call me wrong or tell me i dont know shit when you just proved my point for me. And his comment about making a hybrid and it wont be stable, is just an asshole thing to say . Combining strains aint fuckin rocket science. I doubt he has a degree in horticulture or any other education that most onthis sit e dont have. he is a stoner like the rest of us that bred some plants. like he is the oonly one that can do that. If he wants respect then he should treat others with it. If not he can eat dick as far as im concerened. I dont care who he is . He can come in and have a civil conversation like we all have been having for many pages till he came along. Skunkman or not, he is just a pot smoker like the rest of us, not some super breeding genius. if he can step off his high horse and talk like a normal dude ,then cool. Not like he is some skunk god . respect gets respect. Its earned not given and if he wants respect he should check his tone to others. Rez is surly , sure. But he is also down to earth and dont walk around like his shit dont stink.









Nevermind

 

[GoodbyeBlueSky]

like i ammended my post to read...

Sam had already been trash talked before he posted... hence the hostility... respect gets respect, like you said, and the same is true for disrespect...

his post could have been a jumping off point to make this a truly interesting and informative thread, but we have squandered it... this thread is no good anymore and i'm done with it...

no hard feelings Nevermind, i got nothin' but respect for ya...

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

like i ammended my post to read...

Sam had already been trash talked before he posted... hence the hostility... respect gets respect, like you said, and the same is true for disrespect...

his post could have been a jumping off point to make this a truly interesting and informative thread, but we have squandered it... this thread is no good anymore and i'm done with it...

no hard feelings Nevermind, i got nothin' but respect for ya...

And you know i got nothing but respect for you as well my friend.All day everyday.

Sam needs to vent his frustrations at those whom have disrespected him and i was not one of those. so wheni see someone talkin shi to me and telling me i dont know shit i take offense to it. the point i made in this thread was RKS is more potent than skunk #1 and that many older smokers would prefer the RKS over the skunk that is available. Sam agreed that the RKS was more potent but more couchlock and he prefers an up high. If i want a sweet up high i can just get C99 which is what it gives you. But wheni want a skunk i want a RKS that puts you down. And that is what alot of people expect when they order skunk only to see its sweet and nothing like they hoped for.

When i first started buying beans i saw skunk #1 and immeadiatly thought of RKS only to see its a sweet strain not like RKS. when older smokers think skunk they think RKS and the high associated with it. When i think of a sweet up high, C99 comes to mind. not skunk.







Nevermind

 

[Guest]

Soooo... basically Skunk #1 was just a marketing tool to capitalize upon the name Skunk. Perhaps this would be better named Bunk #1, a three-way hybrid that is not as it's name implies.

Soma pulled the same stunt with NYCD, merely capitalizing on a name.

I've had herb that smelled like road kill skunk and that is what I want. The herb I'm referring to is a bright green/lime-green with an old-school hashy taste and powerful high/buzz that would knock your ass out if you over-indulged.

Piss on all the Bunk #1 crap... I want the real deal Road Kill Skunk... anything less is a fraud.

Mais~

 

[Elevator Man]

Piss on all the Bunk #1 crap... I want the real deal Road Kill Skunk... anything less is a fraud.

Wow - this thread really is going nowhere fast. So now Sam is pulling a stunt calling it Skunk #1, just because a few folks seem unable to accept that a strain they may have smoked in the past may or may not be the same as the one it is now? It has been a named strain since the late 70's folks. Whatever you were smoking then either wasn't skunk, or if it was, it's different now. Let it go. Or re-create it - like the guy said, how hard can it be? It's not rocket-science...
And I'll just write it down once more, as it's really cracking me up - I may have the one you all think you smoked in my grow right now - I keep trying to mention it, but no-one wants to know. That's the last time.

"I want RKS..."

 

[Guest423]

Soooo... basically Skunk #1 was just a marketing tool to capitalize upon the name Skunk. Perhaps this would be better named Bunk #1, a three-way hybrid that is not as it's name implies.

Soma pulled the same stunt with NYCD, merely capitalizing on a name.

I've had herb that smelled like road kill skunk and that is what I want. The herb I'm referring to is a bright green/lime-green with an old-school hashy taste and powerful high/buzz that would knock your ass out if you over-indulged.

Piss on all the Bunk #1 crap... I want the real deal Road Kill Skunk... anything less is a fraud.

Mais~

exactly....great post

 

[pipeline]

Time, with all the inbred HTC skunk beans you've created, you're likely to find what you're looking for, especially since you smelled the skunk smell in flower. Once you select the super skunky individuals, and go through a round or 2 of selection and breeding, you may have the ticket.

I'll be doing the same thing only it will take much longer because my grow room is the earth. Then hopefully we can get real skunk out to the community, and the need will be satisfied.

Its a shame this line had such a short exposure to the public. Glad its in the hands of good people.

 

[Guest423]

Goodbyebluesky- how do you count someone saying trash talk when it's the truth? why don't you ease off sams nuts for a minute? i know it makes you feel important but come on.

whats wrong with critisizm? when you see 100's of people asking sam questions about strains how many times do they get an answer? but as soon as someone says that he isn't the real skunkman boom there he is to quick come and insult everyone that doesn't like his sweet #1.

he might of been a god 20-30 years ago to create and make a strain stable, but that stuff happens everyday now, people make stable ibl's in a couple years...not 10.

sorry but if a breeder thinks sweet #1 clearly dominates rks someone needs to tell him the truth...if it has to be me so be it. i'd say about 1% of people would like sweet #1 over rks....sorry if you count all this as an insult but it's the truth.

i don't show respect for someone that pops up out of the blue to diss a few members, try making the world think he's the greatest, then goes off to hide again....you can....not me.

well if sam is the creator of all them skunks mentioned and everyone on every grow site is complaining about how all the skunks are fake and where's the real skunk these days what does that tell you?

everyone here has said sweet #1 is a decent strain....not even close to a holy grail....better for breeding by far just because it's stable and has nice yields.

you think me and only a few other people feel this way? check the boards....take a look around....just because we are the few that have enough balls to stand up for what we believe in doesn't mean we are the only few.....like i said start a poll sweet #1 vs rks.....you'll see what the majority vote is....it won't even be close man.

i love this quote right here...said by the man himself...pretty much sums everything up.

Your ignorence is astounding. When Skunk #1 was named it was skunky as hell, even a rolled joint in a baggie could be smelled in the whole room. It took me ten years to make it sweet like I like. with an up clear high, strong as hell. I like it for hash, as I don't smoke much pot. Although Skunk is much sweeter now it is the same strain, looks the same except it is a bit less leaf then before, and the smells have changed as well as the high.

when skunk #1 was named it was because it was skunky as hell? then why was skunk #2 named? i thought that was the skunky one? what do you mean skunk is much sweeter now but it's the same strain? you back up that statement by saying it looks different, smells different, and has a different high...sounds like a totally different strain to me......if you change the looks, the smell, and the high....why not change the name instead of misguiding people?

 

[Guest423]

looks like the thread starter got a little more then he bargained for with this thread topic lol....you opened up a big can of worms mibri.

but you got a good definition of what skunk IS.....and even a good definition of what skunk WAS.

 

[Guest]

So what seed companys have the skunky skunk? NOT sweet! I mean sweet is good too but their are soo many other sweet strains. I want the real skunky skunk.

 

[Guest423]

sorry lozin, but between me and a few members and friends that have been trying to find the real skunky skunk have tried every skunk strain on the market.

sam the skunkman claims he has it, but he feels the sweet pheno is better so there is no importance for the real skunky skunk.

 

[Guest]

I'm not DISing Skunk #1... it makes for great breeding stock. I totally look forward to running SSH from Mr Nice. Hell... I even have Island Sweet Skunk beans.

I'm with you on this one Time... bring on the Road Kill. I'll be first in line for those genetics.

Mais~

 

[Guest423]

i hear ya maistre, i'm not dissing Skunk #1 either i just feel "along with many others" that the name is misleading....alot of the dutch people and some of the other people across the world reading this probably don't understand what we are talking about because to them skunk #1 has always been skunk #1....alot of people have never smelled a real live skunk animal and haven't smelled weed the smells like a skunk animal.

i said from the beggining that skunk #1 is a decent strain and i had no diss on sam.

shit, i've grown buttloads of skunk #1 indoor and outdoor.....i have buttloads of skunk and skunk crosses i've bought and made myself....i just got done doing a 4 1/2 month thread on htc skunk ibl and the pure.....and i crossed them every which way hoping that a real SKUNKY pheno pops up somewhere....just like everyone else my intent was to find something that resembled the name which is SKUNK.

 

[Guest]

A couple of weeks ago... I'm with my gal out in the country just cruising along. All of a sudden there is this reeking putrid smell and I rolled down the window IMMEDIATELY. My hippie chick asked me what I was doing... I told her to breathe deep and savor... I want to grow herb like that.

Yup... you guessed it... a dead skunk in the middle of the road... STINKING to high heaven... THAT is what I want to grow!

Damn... it smelled just like a PARTY!

Mais~

 

[Guest]

sorry lozin, but between me and a few members and friends that have been trying to find the real skunky skunk have tried every skunk strain on the market.

sam the skunkman claims he has it, but he feels the sweet pheno is better so there is no importance for the real skunky skunk.

sorry to hear that man! I think you might have saved me some time and money becuase I wanted to try and find a skunk that resembled the only skunk ive had. If ever this skunky skunk pheno is found they should just call it "Animal Skunk" to get rid of the confusion with skunk #1

btw the dealer said it was "Black Diesel Skunk" it was mostly indica with dark spots all over. and yes its smelled just like the animal skunk

Skunks have two glands, on either side of the anus, that produce a mixture of sulfur-containing chemicals (methyl and butyl thiols) that has a highly offensive smell.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Skunks have two glands, on either side of the anus, that produce a mixture of sulfur-containing chemicals (methyl and butyl thiols)

Could you indicate more precisely where?

 

[Guest423]

sorry to hear that man! I think you might have saved me some time and money becuase I wanted to try and find a skunk that resembled the only skunk ive had. If ever this skunky skunk pheno is found they should just call it "Animal Skunk" to get rid of the confusion with skunk #1

no problem man, i wouldn't want you to order, spend money, and take the time to grow something hoping for a result and coming out empty handed....you'll still get a decent strain in skunk#1 but it won't be the skunky skunk your talking about.

us people looking for the skunky skunk refer to it as Roadkill Skunk "rks", because thats what it smells like is a skunk that just got hit by a car or sprayed.