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What is Skunk?

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Uh, let's watch the racist comments...

On topic, I remember some stuff called " Big Dick" in NYC around 1982-4. I would have it in my back pack ( making deliveries to my home room teacher!) wrapped up and people would turn around and sniff and say, what is that? It was SUPER potent and tasty. I am still searching for it.

Haven't had it since then. We all called it skunk weed because it smelled like a skunk just sprayed.

Peace.
 

zamalito

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Kmarpa, I wonder if that was similar to the donkey dick skunk that I used to get. Was it really monotone in color and fluffy cilindrical buds ranging from 6" - 2ft and about one inch in diameter? I'm still searching for that one too.

Isn't superskunk skunk1 crossed to its afghan ancestor? I thought that the guy <edit> was the creator of skunk1 and sam was just the guy who brought skunk1 to holland?
 
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Guest423

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god made the skunk....lets have a moment of silence and pray for the return of the rks.


if T2U was the skunkman we'd be wondering where the sweet fruity pheno was, i don't know how anyone would think the sweet fruity pheno is more desirable then the stanky skunk pheno.
 

DarkGreen

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zamalito said:
There used to be several hybrids called skunk from all over the u.s. Before the indoor craze and dutch genetics were available we used to get georgia skunk, oklahoma skunk, virginia skunk, south carolina, kentucky skunk, donkey dick etc. All of them were outdoor strains and most grew large. As dutch genes became more common they disappeared. Its as simple as that. I don't believe sk 1 was ever really that stinky. Cheese isn't an rks in my opinion. Most of the rks's were afghan dominant but the the donkey dick, Virginia and South carolina skunks were all very similar. Very fluffy with narrow bud leaves and large calyxes. I believe them to be a southeast asian afghan cross because of the monotone colored hairless long bracted flowers. Though I know of some highland cali skunks interestingly the sativa dom rks's were all very humid lowland varieties. In my first indoor grows before I had access to dutch genetics I grew seeds from the oklahoma skunk and donkey dick (not the west coast seeds strain) the smell wasn't the same. Though it was an excellent outdoor strain the sativa dom donkey dick was terrible quality indoors but the indica dominant oklahoma skunk did quite well and kept it going for some time however it was more of a piney smell indoors. I believe I may no a couple people who have seeds of either the South Carolina or Virginia Skunks and I'm in the process of tracking them down. What happened was the growers saw that people were getting twice as much for sweeter more sticky and indoor stuff so they quit the skunks and went for the money. I'm sure roadkill skunk seeds are still around. If people kept panama red santa marta gold and acapulco gold seeds from the late 70's then there's no doubt that people kept rks seeds from the late 80's. Especially considering rks was a domestic product so people knew it was possible to grow the rks plants making it much more logical to keep the seeds.

Zamalito...when you said the phrase -
"Very fluffy with narrow bud leaves and large calyxes. I believe them to be a southeast asian afghan cross because of the monotone colored hairless long bracted flowers."

Now I tend to believe that this was the skunk I may have gotten in my daze as a smoker. The term hairless, monotone, and long bracted flowers.....What type of SE Asian could it be? Viet, Thai, or Burmese? Do you think RM Willie Nelson or his Burmese Pure be able to reproduce that skunky skunk with an afghan cross?
 

zamalito

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I knew someone else had to remember specifically what I was talking about. The only reason I think it was some se asian is because the only other hairless buds I've seen were thais and cambodians. I'm thinking maybe a cambodian but its hard to say. Also its important to have just the right afghan if not maybe use a superskunk instead of an afghan. If I knew for sure I'd be breeding it right now.
 
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The buds I got were like 6 -10 inches in length. I never looked at it with the eyes of a grower. I was a misguided teen with good hook ups. I got it through my then kung fu teacher. I know the name of the dude who was the NYC connection but I can't say it.
At that time, the weed was coming from all over. My teacher was getting stuff from Thailand, Cali and Vermont at that time. Some Maui wauie occasionally.
I was just a kid, then in around 87-88 the weed all smelled the same and it was either brown( killer sativa smoke) or green. No more skunk.
 

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thing is alot of the time the people you get weed off dont know what the fuck it is and would probably say its skunk. but there are also people that know what theyre selling. not always easy to know for sure what your getting.

ive been told ive had skunk before and all i remember is that it fucking stank, like really pungent, you had to keep it in a few bags to stop the smell and if you had it in your pocket people could still smell it. oh and it was pretty strong too.

lately ive been getting all sorts of types, some quite good, some average and some abit underpar with a naff taste. but none of them stink really, just smells abit like sweet tea.
 

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i can agree with a certain rks having no hairs....i had a hookup for over 2 yrs of some super killer rks....these buds were smaller, not long like the sats but more chunky and tight like an indica....it basically looked like a bud of tight knitted leaves....barely any hairs on this stuff.....killer skunk smell, thick lung expanding smoke, knockout potency.

the other version i had was neon lime green with flaming orange hairs....longer more sat type buds....bags were huge because they were more fluffy....reeked like skunk, smoke was a little lighter and less expanding, more of a sative influenced buzz.

both versions were what we called triple bagged and the first buds we ever put in jars...none of my friends could go anywhere without us knowing they were holding some of that skunkbud....you can triple bag it and put it anywhere in your possesion and you'll easily smell it.....you show up at the party and people say hey you got some skunk huh...jump in a car same thing happens....you couldn't hold out on your buddies and pretend you didn't have any smoke when u had this in your pocket. open the jar and the whole house or car instantly stinks just like a spraying skunk....thats real skunk people.....nothing sweet or fruity about any of the real skunk.
 

beancounter

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the "where did the RKS go?" question HAS been put to Sam before, over at OG, and maybe at CW aswell..

I am not 100% sure as i'm going from memory.. but his answer was somehting like this..

He said that when he originaly got the Skunk line, and brought it over to EU, it had both sweet and RKS phenos in it.. He said (which I find VERY hard to believe) that the VAST majority of the breeders, growers, and smokers preferred the sweet pheno hands down, so that was the route he decided to go when stabilizing it..

He claims to still have seeds from the original line, with the RKS phenos in it, but i can't quite remember why he hasn't released them...


This makes some sence to me, as it explains why there was still the odd Skunky (not quite RK) pheno in 1988, when the Cheese was discovered.. I think the Cheese is just a rare sport pheno from the Skunk that eventualy showed it's self... I don't think Cheese is a SkunkxAfghan, as the Cheese has MUCH more sativa traits than ANY SKunk1 or skunk line I've grown.

I did hear that sam was gonna try to release some RKS, but it's been a while since..


Shantibaba recently posted that he will be releasing and true old skool skunk, and IMO this release has the most and biggest potential to be what we're looking for...


If you like RKS and can't find anything in seed look for these elites to give you some of the flavor you are looking for:

Trinity
Big Bud (real cut)
Mass Super Skunk
Cat Piss
HP#1 or HP#13
Shoreline
Cheese
ECSD

Now, u can also look into the Kushes (not OGK), bubba, hindu, master to find some of what us RKS lovers are looking for..

Also try Deep Chunk, and other Afghan and Paki lines, as this is where most of the skunkyness from RKS comes from IMHO.


Please realize that everyone's description of RKS is slightly different, and like zamalito says there is DEFINATELY not only 1 RKS.. IMHO and IME there's at least 10+ cuts that could qualify for the title, and they range in indica/sativa ratio, flower time, bud size/denseness, and even in smell and taste...

Some of these cuts will differ slightly in taste/smell but the underlying theme is still there.. Some will be pineyer, some will be slightly lemony, some will be all hash, some will be sweet (like cheese in a way)... It really depends on what has gone into the clone, and how it was grown to a lesser extent.

Also, one man's RKS may not be indentical to another man's... For example, the stuff I grew up smoking in the PNW will not be the same as the RKS others were smoking in the rest of NA.. but again, the theme is the same, skunk, it's all about the skunk..


I also think that the RKS smell/taste can some from many different (but special, and rare) combinations of genes.. I think alot of the RKS clones were discovered by accident, and only a few came from serious breeding..

Good luck everyone, I hope you all find the RKS you are looking for..

Currently I have Trinity Oregon SKunk (trinityxkandahar i think), and some 1989 SSSC Skunk #1 F2s going, the latest in my search for skunk... this would probly make about 15-20 skunks or skunk crosses I've grown.. I'm hopeful for the TOS, but have lost hope in the SK1 F2s as I've heard people have grown them and found more of the same 'bunk skunk' ala Sam's...
 

Sam_Skunkman

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Mr. Nevermind,
"but most people would prefer the RKS over a sweet smelling pheno."

WRONG, the high from sweet Skunk #1 is much nicer then the Skunky Skunk #1 or #2. The Skunk #2 was more skunky, and a little bit stronger. Nice if you want to lay on a couch, and vegetate, I like the sweet up clear high of the sweet Skunk #1 much better and so do the majority of growers. If the skunky one was all that was available then the growers would all be screaming for the sweet Skunk #1.
Maybe I will reintroduce Skunk #2 the skunky one but to be honest it is not imporant to me, I am busy with other goals.

"RKS is a true gem that may be lost forever. I am sure some old hippie somwhere has a cut of it. "

Maybe, but I doubt it. But I do still have it.

"the smell is fuckin awful the high puts you on your ass, aint nothing sweet about it . Skunk #1 aint skunk to me and many others who have tried RKS. the only strain that should be called skunk smells like a fucking skunk, not sweet, hence the name"

Well, I named the strain in 1976 and I decided on Skunk #1 if you don't like it then what can I say? Make a better 3 way stable Indica/Sativa hybrid and name it the real Skunky RKS, good luck....
It will still not be what you want....
And it will not be stable.

"i am surprised no breeder has tried to find and work RKS. Anyone wanting to win a cup need only to enter RKS. i dont care how rigged the cup is, RKS would win hands down ."


In case you forgot 20 years ago I won the first High Tines Cup with Skunk #1, it was skunky and sweet. Then I dropped out of the Cup as it became more about sales then quality. And I do not need the sales.


unicorn,
"skunk is in a lot of strains...but true skunk it seems nobody grows anymore...i personally wont grow anything but low odor strains"

This is your loss, low odor strains are not as strong or stony, that is a fact.


Time2Unite,
"people were talking about skunk before sam the skunkman and had skunk before sam the skunkman"

Are you joking? Who was selling seeds of Skunk before me? NO ONE.

"tell me why everyone thats smoked ass loads of all these strains STILL says roadkill skunk is some of the best if not the very best weed they've ever smoked....no one has seen it in years and you could never buy the seeds commercially but everyone still talks about it non stop.....imagine how many people would be talking about it if someone got some."

Are you joking? I had the best what you call RKS, and I did not even smoke it much, I had much stronger Original Haze with a much nicer high to me. What you call RKS was very popular with the blue collar types, although they liked Afghani #1 even better because you could not walk, it made you a cripple.
I like to get high not loaded, but to each their own....
Different smokes for different folks.

"either that or it choked itself out from inbreeding depression, thats what happened to the people that i knew that grew it for 10+ yrs.....one yr it wasn't as good, every yr after that it got worse until there was no point to keeping it."

What are you refering to? Making seeds every year? If you mean the clone got worse year after year, I don't know the problem, it is not imbreeding depression, as maintaining a clone does not involve inbreeding at all. I have the same clones for 20 years and see no differences at all. Zero! Clones can pick up a virus which will lower health and yield. Don't use infected clones to make progeny clones or seeds.

"sorry but "sams" skunk is not skunk.....i don't care if people think he's the skunkman...your not the skunkman if you don't have real skunk....put that in your canna history pipe and smoke it. sams the father of a sweet plant, which shouldn't be called skunk, why would you ever call a sweet plant skunk? it's the most ignorant thing i've ever heard to be honest. when you name a strain it should have some meaning or resemblence of the name you gave it.
no knock on you or sam but come on, to name a fruity sweet plant skunk if funny. no other strain in the world has such a wrong name....period."

Your ignorence is astounding. When Skunk #1 was named it was skunky as hell, even a rolled joint in a baggie could be smelled in the whole room. It took me ten years to make it sweet like I like. with an up clear high, strong as hell. I like it for hash, as I don't smoke much pot. Although Skunk is much sweeter now it is the same strain, looks the same except it is a bit less leaf then before, and the smells have changed as well as the high.

"it's all a marketing scam imo, how many people bought "skunk" thinking they were gonna get a well known stinky skunky ass strain? why else would you buy skunk? the plan worked to perfection...millions of people bought the strain."

You are either confused or plain stupid, people bought the strain because it grows great Cannabis and everyone knew it. Most growers would prefer the sweet version, a few growers that do not want to get high, but would prefer to get loaded like the skunky version, but as I have not sold the skunky ones for 20 years, a lot of the talk is theoretical.

"if reeferman bring it back then he's the man, anyone that brings this strain back will be famous in the canna community, it would go down in history."

Been there, done that....

"people were talking about skunk before sam the skunkman and had skunk before sam the skunkman"

Can you please tell me the skunky varieties that were offered as seeds before Skunk #1?

"if T2U was the skunkman we'd be wondering where the sweet fruity pheno was, i don't know how anyone would think the sweet fruity pheno is more desirable then the stanky skunk pheno."

If T2U was the skunkman we would not have sweet skunk or skunky RKS skunk, lets be honest here....
How many Skunks have you grown? I have grown millions, not hundreds, millions of from seed Skunk #1 plants.
It is one thing to sit at your computer and rant, it is another thing to actually do something real like make a new hybrid, as for making a 3 way hybrid that is stable as Skunk #1, good luck, you will need it.

British_Hempire,

"UK Cheese is almost certainly Skunk x Afghan rather than a pheno of Skunk #1. I reckon a good Skunk x Afghan is far closer to the roadkill that Skunk #1.

To me Cheese is just a skunk, it sure smells like a pure Skunk #1. Maybe you know better?

HothouseFlowers,
"'Skunk' was initially a name for a strong smelling line of hybridised and acclimatised Pure Sativas grown in California by the Mother Earth communes in the mid to late 60s. I believe these where all South American lines in the genetic mix."
"Just like Haze, Skunk was a generic term used in these ME communes. BOEL marketed crops sold as Skunk prior to 1970..enterprising seed dealers utillised the names to reflect el primo products of the day, just as happens now.."


A pure Sativa that smelled like Skunk? California Communes growing Skunk in the early 60's?
Haze a generic name? BOEL grew very small amounts of weed, mostly in Hawaii.
The name Original Haze was made up by R.L. around 1970, I made up the Skunk #1 name. People did offer herbal Cannabis with the description skunky, indica, kush, afghani, but no one had the seeds to offer, except the BOEL, but they did not understand breeding or conservation. Most of the seeds they traded were imported Landraces or unstable hybrids and are gone today. They were hybridized out of exsistence.
-SamS
 

Angel Eyes

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I learned absolutely nothing from Sam's post other than that he's arrogant and egotistical. I read too many negative reviews of the Sam the Skunkman freebies to place much credence in anything he says. Maybe he was great once, a long, long time ago. Maybe. What year is it now?
 

Tirs

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I don't know man his freebies were free for a reason, I don't think its a reflection of his stock. I do think he has the right to be pissed, this was something he put a huge part of his life into and now people are giving him shit for it because as he says he took the line in the direction he liked. The fact that skunk shows in up in so many hybrids today must mean he isn't the only one who liked it. Unless someone can step up and legitimately contend him for the title of 'breeder of skunk' I think all his points are valid.
 

beancounter

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hello Sam, I'm glad you chimed in..

I must say that most of the pot that i have smoked that I would call RKS did lean towards the sativa end of the spectrum, far from the couchlock you are describing with the skunk Skunk#1s, or Skunk #2.

I have grown your Skunk#1 and found the high very boring, and lackluster, with a very bland sweetish taste, that just reminds me of mediocre commercial cannabis... I have heard the same thing from 100s of growers, and have yet to meet anyone who's prefered you Skunk #1 to a RKS, or what they know as RKS.. I keep looking for these people who prefer the sweet skunk, since reading your replies at OG, but i haven't found anyone who does except you :chin:

All I know is whether or not you developed the 1st Skunk seedline, the bottom line is it's not what 90% of growers are looking for when they go to buy a skunk strain..

So saying you have the real RKS line is jus like a slap in the face to all of us real skunk lovers sitting hear and reading this.. Why don't you get these seeds to a good breeder who's willing to work and release them, for the good of skunk lovers everywhere.. Seeds only last so long..


I'm not trying to take anything away from your acheivements or breeding skill, Skunk #1 is a great breeding tool, but the finished herb leaves alot to be desired... It's obvious u grew copious amounts of plants, and did alot of work on the strain...

But unfortunately your Skunk #1 has essentialy changed the meaning of skunk to mean something completely different from what the name originaly meant, which is smell and taste... When the word skunk was chosen, it wasn't to describe a certain type of plant, it was chosen to describe a smell/taste, which is completely gone from the Skunk #1 line... So you must understand why some people feel it's false advertising... Not all growers are familiar with the story of how Skunk evolved, all they know is that commercial Skunk seedlines don't smell like skunk..

I just wish you would get the real RKS seeds out to the public, and let them decide which they think is better, the sales figures will tell you quickly.. personaly, I don't care if it's an IBL when you release it, as long as I could find 1-2 RKS smelling/tasting phenos per pack, I would be happy... To jus say ''sweet skunk is better, take my word for it'' isn't enough, my tastes are obviously different than yours, so how could you know?


It's just very frustrating to go thru so many 'skunk' strains and not find a single plant with the skunk smell.. and expensive... Do all of us a great service and get the RKS in seed form out there, and let us choose for ourselves..

thanks.
 

kanebosem

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i think that was a very good post from sam.
there were so many stupid posts in this thread its unreal
for all you people searching for the rks i would take sams advice and go for an afgani or skunk/afgan hybrid like sensiskunk where you will find some extreme skunky acrid smells.
from all your so called skunk stories its clear that for most of you this was some of your first smokes ever so no wonder you look back at them as holy grail.
but i didnt see anyone post they have grown the rks.
i find it weird so many people smoked it,but no one grew it?
all this and more suggest to me that rks is just generic name that was used at the time for diffrent types of stinky good quality weed.
myself i agree with sam and love the sweet skunk#1 think its great weed and mine stinks up very strong,it also makes some of the best bubble.
 

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Time2Unite,
"people were talking about skunk before sam the skunkman and had skunk before sam the skunkman"

Are you joking? Who was selling seeds of Skunk before me? NO ONE.

it isn't a joke....no one said anything about selling seeds....you think your god almighty skunk but seriously you don't have real skunk...i've grown your skunk...many have grown your skunk....sure it's decent but it has nothing to do with real skunk.



"tell me why everyone thats smoked ass loads of all these strains STILL says roadkill skunk is some of the best if not the very best weed they've ever smoked....no one has seen it in years and you could never buy the seeds commercially but everyone still talks about it non stop.....imagine how many people would be talking about it if someone got some."

Are you joking? I had the best what you call RKS, and I did not even smoke it much, I had much stronger Original Haze with a much nicer high to me. What you call RKS was very popular with the blue collar types, although they liked Afghani #1 even better because you could not walk, it made you a cripple.
I like to get high not loaded, but to each their own....
Different smokes for different folks.

once again i'm not joking....i don't believe you had or have the best rks people talk about.


"either that or it choked itself out from inbreeding depression, thats what happened to the people that i knew that grew it for 10+ yrs.....one yr it wasn't as good, every yr after that it got worse until there was no point to keeping it."

What are you refering to? Making seeds every year? If you mean the clone got worse year after year, I don't know the problem, it is not imbreeding depression, as maintaining a clone does not involve inbreeding at all. I have the same clones for 20 years and see no differences at all. Zero! Clones can pick up a virus which will lower health and yield. Don't use infected clones to make progeny clones or seeds.

lol ofcourse i'm not talking about clones....who would think that keeping a clone causes any inbreeding depression? when u keep breeding a strain over and over for many years it loses charastics you might want....like a real strain that smells like skunk. you should know that...since you did it.

"sorry but "sams" skunk is not skunk.....i don't care if people think he's the skunkman...your not the skunkman if you don't have real skunk....put that in your canna history pipe and smoke it. sams the father of a sweet plant, which shouldn't be called skunk, why would you ever call a sweet plant skunk? it's the most ignorant thing i've ever heard to be honest. when you name a strain it should have some meaning or resemblence of the name you gave it.
no knock on you or sam but come on, to name a fruity sweet plant skunk if funny. no other strain in the world has such a wrong name....period."

Your ignorence is astounding. When Skunk #1 was named it was skunky as hell, even a rolled joint in a baggie could be smelled in the whole room. It took me ten years to make it sweet like I like. with an up clear high, strong as hell. I like it for hash, as I don't smoke much pot. Although Skunk is much sweeter now it is the same strain, looks the same except it is a bit less leaf then before, and the smells have changed as well as the high

your the ignorant one here....it took you 10 yrs to ruin a strain....i've grown your skunk and it isn't potent as hell....thats being honest....since you changed everything the strain was good for why don't you change the name instead of misguiding people in thinking they are gonna get a strain that smells like skunk?


"it's all a marketing scam imo, how many people bought "skunk" thinking they were gonna get a well known stinky skunky ass strain? why else would you buy skunk? the plan worked to perfection...millions of people bought the strain."

You are either confused or plain stupid, people bought the strain because it grows great Cannabis and everyone knew it. Most growers would prefer the sweet version, a few growers that do not want to get high, but would prefer to get loaded like the skunky version, but as I have not sold the skunky ones for 20 years, a lot of the talk is theoretical.

your the confused or stupid one here....NO ONE prefers the sweet version....where have you been? once again just because you haven't sold your seeds in 20 yrs doesn't mean the real rks hasn't been around.

"if reeferman bring it back then he's the man, anyone that brings this strain back will be famous in the canna community, it would go down in history."

Been there, done that....

sure you have....no your the one that ruined it....lets get it straight.

"people were talking about skunk before sam the skunkman and had skunk before sam the skunkman"

Can you please tell me the skunky varieties that were offered as seeds before Skunk #1?

do you think your god? how do you think you got the skunky varieties? obviously the strains u used were already around....there were plenty of skunky varieties.

"if T2U was the skunkman we'd be wondering where the sweet fruity pheno was, i don't know how anyone would think the sweet fruity pheno is more desirable then the stanky skunk pheno."

If T2U was the skunkman we would not have sweet skunk or skunky RKS skunk, lets be honest here....
How many Skunks have you grown? I have grown millions, not hundreds, millions of from seed Skunk #1 plants.
It is one thing to sit at your computer and rant, it is another thing to actually do something real like make a new hybrid, as for making a 3 way hybrid that is stable as Skunk #1, good luck, you will need it.

i have grown lots of skunks....probably a few thousand....but i grew some real skunk....you? yeah i'm working on my own strains doing my own thing.....anyone with growing knowledge and some breeding background can create good stable strains....you think your the only one that can breed stable strains now?

sorry bro but i'm not one of your groupies that think your the shit because you made a stable strain.....you did good work to make the strain what it is today but your sadly mistaken if you think you took the line in the right direction....make a poll and lets see a vote......your sweet skunk will so far behind it isn't even funny.

either you wrecked the strain or you never have grown or bred the rks we talk about....if you have some and the supply is in such demand why don't you prove you got it? if your the creator you obviously have some.
 

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Angel Eyes said:
I learned absolutely nothing from Sam's post other than that he's arrogant and egotistical. I read too many negative reviews of the Sam the Skunkman freebies to place much credence in anything he says. Maybe he was great once, a long, long time ago. Maybe. What year is it now?


exactly....great post.
 
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Angel Eyes

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Time2Unite said:
your the ignorant one here....it took you 10 yrs to ruin a strain....

your the confused or stupid one here....NO ONE prefers the sweet version....where have you been? once again just because you haven't sold your seeds in 20 yrs doesn't mean the real rks hasn't been around.

sure you have....no your the one that ruined it....lets get it straight.

either you wrecked the strain or you never have grown or bred the rks we talk about....if you have some and the supply is in such demand why don't you prove you got it? if your the creator you obviously have some.

Absolutely perfect! Hahaha!

Here's Sam bragging about fucking up a perfectly good thing. What a dope. Nice call, Time2Unite.
 

Guest423

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i have 1 question....if you sam are the skunk maker...your saying every single breeder and seed company that sells any skunk#1 is yours?
 

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kanebosem said:
i think that was a very good post from sam.
there were so many stupid posts in this thread its unreal
for all you people searching for the rks i would take sams advice and go for an afgani or skunk/afgan hybrid like sensiskunk where you will find some extreme skunky acrid smells.

I've run Sensi Skunk, there's nothing skunky in that line anymore either, not even close.. Mr. Nice's Shit is another skunkxaffy, and unfortunately it's the same story on that one..

It's not simply as easy as growing an afghan, believe me, i've tried.

from all your so called skunk stories its clear that for most of you this was some of your first smokes ever so no wonder you look back at them as holy grail.

'so called' lol, so now stuff that smells like a real skunk (the animal) is the 'so-called' version? That's exactly my point about how Skunk#1 has literaly changed the meaning of the word skunk when describing MJ.. and that's very confusing to growers looking for skunky strains.. I realize it just happened that way, and hindsight is always 20-20, but i wish it was different and the name skunk still meant what it's supposed to.

It wasn't my 1st smoke, I've smoked it over and over, even up till I started growing.. just that dealers in my area never knew strain names, or were not connected to the grower who grew what they were selling.. I never bugged them for seeds/clones because at the time i figured it would be very easy to just buy a couple skunk strains when i started growing and find what i was looking for..

There were/are different versions, plants, strains for sure, but they still had one thing in common, they actualy smelled/tasted like a skunk...

but i didnt see anyone post they have grown the rks.
i find it weird so many people smoked it,but no one grew it?
all this and more suggest to me that rks is just generic name that was used at the time for diffrent types of stinky good quality weed.

I don't think i saw anyone saying that RKS is ONE strain, many people acknowledged there were numerous versions, some more indica, some mostly sativa, some light green, some dark, etc etc..

We aren't looking for a strain called RKS, we are looking for a commercialy avaliable Skunk strain that ACTUALY tastes and smells like the name, is that so much to ask?

I have never heard a dealer call anything RKS, so it has nothing to do with hyping for me, RKS to me just denotes something that actualy smells like skunk... not a particular strain.. It can be a rare pheno of Godbud, a rare Afghan pheno maybe... but these phenos aren't a sure thing, and may only show up after 5 packs of beans or more..

People jus want something they can buy a pack of and find something like what they remember, reliably.. And Sam tells us he has it, but just doesn't have the time to release it..

Ever since i've come online i've seen literally 1000s of people posting on this subject, looking for a real skunk in seed form, obviously there's a good market for it, and no one is asking Sam to discontinue Skunk#1 or change the name and jus do the RKS one...

I dunno, if you were a true skunk lover you'd understand, if not, you never will..

This isn't about bashing sam's work, or placebo affected by nostalgia, it's just a flavor/smell that a whole bunch of people like... what's wrong with that? We're just voicing our love for a certain flavor, and how we can't find it in the lines going by the skunk names..

myself i agree with sam and love the sweet skunk#1 think its great weed and mine stinks up very strong,it also makes some of the best bubble.

Well, either you have different tastes than most, or you have never had the chance to taste/smoke truly skunky weed.. And that's cool too, to each their own.

But you are the 1st person I've EVER met to say Skunk#1 stinks up real bad.. All my skunks were some of the lowest odor strains i've ever grown, just very bland, compared to a real skunk smell at least..


Personaly I have given up waiting and relying on other breeders to release some form of RKS, and have started trying to make it myself.. Does it mean I will be successful? no, but it's something I love soooooo much, i'm willing to put in the time, space, money and effort to try, it means that much to me.. and apparently I'm not the only one..
 
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