What is Skunk?

[REZDOG]

Yeah,I like that post by angel Eyes,he's a real full blown authority on Cannabis.
Here's a pic from AE's gallery.I assume it's his grow,either that or it's a failed attempt at making his own E-Z Bake oven.





There's nothing wrong with CFLs,but kids growing in sock drawers have no business calling people like Sam and Rez so called breeders.

JLP

LMFAO!!!!!

I see the little twat is banned now,perhaps he's off to home depot to add a few more CFL's to his mills pride cab,lolol!
If that setup is how angeleyes judged "finished" herb,well,lololololol!


Sam's integrity and skill are unquestionable,and anyone that says different doesn't know their ass from a hole in the growund.

Oh,and all the folks hatin' on me in this thread,well,you just keep on hatin'. Like Katt Williams says,"If you got twenty haters,you ain't got enough. The more haters you have doggin' you,the more you know you must be doin' something right." :smile:

On that note,I exit.

 

[shovelhead]

Wish I knew what kind of skunk I'm growing,a 4 inch seedling will emit a powerful skunk odor when moved and when I cut one down from my flowering cab it will literally make your eyes water as you trim it. All came from 2 $40 eighths I bought 3 years ago,moldy, wet and full of seeds. But I keep coming back to it time and again. May be nostalgia,in my misspent youth when all you could get was Mex brown,when the indicas finally made it to these parts,that skunky smell meant you had the kind..

 

[XyZ]

Thank you Tom for the advice

i still have some pollen for my little breeding project in the future...
my grassy brain is now planing a cross with original haze
you may have any info about the f1 of this sat/indica? (please link me if the info allready exists out there

to stay on topic ...the skunk is good, but i think it would be better*(in traits of flavour/potency... if made with the chunky afghani

 

[Farmer John]

IMO<

India & Pakistan should be your chosen stompin grounds...

We all should make our own skunk imho. Good to see you here Tom Hill!

Tex said it well: Passion baby.

Oh yes, lets see what happens when we start to breed pakistani and kashmir seeds together, who knows..

And Rez yo, you got it all wrong, thats a IKEA cabinet my friend...lmao...

OHxSk#1.

 

[Tom Hill]

Your grassy brain is righton track, unfortunately there's a lack of info on all you contimplate regarding breeding if you limit yourself to what the breeders of cannabis today have not to say . I'm not sure why , my guess is that knowledgable breeders don't want hacks to gobble up & take credit for info at their own expence.My advice is to skip the f1 gen,(your not breeding for public consumption, are you?)... what you really want in a plant from clone is an extreme of the two parental lines & you'll find this in the f2 generation... while the f1 is predictable, it lacks the diversity that your looking for..
Tom

 

[Farmer John]

Right on man, thats what I have been thinking of, I want to have a lot of diversity so I can pick the excellent ones and keep them as clones or then breed them more, anyhoo, should be interesting, I really think that all of us should try to "remake" some of the classic in some way or then use the same recipe but look for different plants than what all of us are used to smoke, xshould be some exotic shit in the kashmir genepool and also pakistani/afghan genetics arent that bad...

 

[XyZ]

heh dont worry Tom! NO public consumption ...im making seeds for me but of course i share with my friends (local growers from our little country
Sure the F2 gen will be mad in diversity ...and i know there is a lot of hard work till F4
i will search for some deep~exotic smell in the f2...thats the primary trait i will concentrate on (luv da'smoke of a tasty cannabis

the main thing with the f1 is the indica/sativa~male/female question. do you think the haze male would be better than DC polen on haze? ...i dont know, but i may try both ways

 

[TORC]

Tom, good to see you around brother. I've been saying Trainwreck is just a pheno of Sk#1 for years and no-one listens. Go figure. Sam, thanks for dropping back in. We have your back covered when your not here brother. peace

 

[REZDOG]

Great to see you back,Tom! :smile:

 

[fjällhöga]

hehe me thinks the same welcome back tom - that the reason why i started with cheese f2´s - the diversity , the diversity

have fun

Fj

 

[Guest]

I've been saying Trainwreck is just a pheno of Sk#1 for years and no-one listens.

Interesting line of thoughts..I wonder what you see that makes you suggest that?

Imhe, If you sexually reverse the Cheese and TW lines you will see totally different results and i cant see any relationship between them myself, personally I have noticed no relationship with the TW and Skunk lines. Even the 'early Skunk' lines we have.

However saying that im sure there where possibly a few skunk lines. Or rather Herbs marketed as Skunky or Skunk lines, and anything is possible.

All the best, Flowers

 

[motaco]

TW a pheno of skunk? insanity

trainwreck is a mexican thai indica hybrid leaning heavily on the mexican IMHO.

but its well known e32 or whatever it used to be called was a thai touched up with bagseed and indica from cali.

you sure your getting real original cut TW and not the arcata or one of the numerous knockoffs? buds should be ugly and grey if its real deal.

the stones, tastes, smells, well everything really was the exact opposite from one another from every skunk vs trainwreck I've ever had.

 

[TORC]

Everything I've seen or read before the above post stated the lineage of TW being Columbian/Mexican/Afghani, the same as Sk. If it is indeed Thai then I am very wrong and excuse me for it. I know the smoke and taste/aroma are different, but as we all know, working a line can bring out some amazing specimens, some of which really don't resemble that of the parental stock. In this case Skunk #1.

 

[GoodbyeBlueSky]

well, this has turned out to be a great thread after all...

great info...

 

[Guest]

I know the smoke and taste/aroma are different, but as we all know, working a line can bring out some amazing specimens, some of which really don't resemble that of the parental stock. In this case Skunk #1.

Yes that is true, but Skunk '1 is a stable mostly true breeding strain as can easilly be seen by reversing selected clones. You would have to grow out a huge number of seeds to see any 'sports' in Sams lines and get any real diversity.

TW is not, it is absolutely chock full of nastyness, and it is totally unstable. Whomever selected parental materials for TW i dont know, too many stories, but it definately wasnt SamS quality of work.

trainwreck is a mexican thai indica hybrid leaning heavily on the mexican IMHO.

Im sure hes right. Thats absolutely what it says to me.

Peace, Flores

 

[Raco]

Dr. Jay told me that the afghan is the "kick" in TW :smile:

 

[Guest]

Most of the TW ive seen was hairless lime green sativa with that alpine/pinesol smell. The first time I had TW it was a dark green indica with the same alpine/pinsol smell. I thought the name fit perfect because of the strong indica high. Its like you were in a trainwreck and all you can do is just sit there totally blown out of your mind. Now all the trainwreck I see especially from socali clinics is lime green with the sativa up/energy high not the couchlock indica high the name "Trainwreck" suggests

 

[motaco]

I don't know I've always had good success replicating TW. I've had alot of pretty good tw knockoffs too.

Complete bitch? yup. Low yielding? definitely. And its way too strong to smoke more than once or maybe twice a week. But never the less I love TW. in moderation.

its a nostalgia smoke for me because it reminds me very much of strong bags of mexican I'd get when I first started smoking. Makes me REALLY stupid and paranoid. and I want to smoke cigs when I'm high on it.

But I've had some great crosses. trainwreck x pineapple was phenominal in every aspect. other than a quick tolerance buildup. Smells and tastes you can't imagine from crosses of TW and sweet weeds. and great stones. so I can't bitch about TW's breeding capacity. But I can understand why others might. With its horrid growth patterns, and low yields that it spreads to whatever you cross it to.

 

[Guest423]

what kind of stone do you get from the arcata cut?

 

[motaco]

i mean the arcata is pretty good weed and I know some people like it better than the original I just don't fall into that category.

arcata is smash you up weed too but original TW is just more unique and has more depth to it IMHO.

arcata just feels a little more generic and bland in comparison to the original, I can tell its not the original and I feel its watered down. like when you get a haze but it isn't REALLY haze. but its still good weed. kinda how I feel about arcata.

explaining subtle nuances in strains with similiar stones is very hard to do so I'll just say I think original has a little something arcata does not.