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Time2Unite said:
Im in!! I would like to be one of the founding memebers of the RKS gang/fan club!!
Nevermind
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Im in!! I would like to be one of the founding memebers of the RKS gang/fan club!!
Nevermind
GIVE US THE RKS OR WE'LL TURN YOU INTO ROADKILL! 
Repruuuuhsent! lol
Repruuuuhsent! lol
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i thought i might let some of you know..
there is a dead skunk i have passed by on my way to work.. for the last few days
i am sure he is still there, if anyone wants him... he doesnt reek as much as he did when he was first hit (im guessing)..
but when i pass by i still catch that odor.. not yet rotting
i will glady ship him to the highest bidder
ps.
anyone remember hiking in the woods as a kid and comming across "skunk cabbage"?
its a plant thats in swampy areas... similar smell to what we're talkin about..
peace to that skunk odor
fugg a name
bILL
there is a dead skunk i have passed by on my way to work.. for the last few days
i am sure he is still there, if anyone wants him... he doesnt reek as much as he did when he was first hit (im guessing)..
but when i pass by i still catch that odor.. not yet rotting
i will glady ship him to the highest bidder
ps.
anyone remember hiking in the woods as a kid and comming across "skunk cabbage"?
its a plant thats in swampy areas... similar smell to what we're talkin about..
peace to that skunk odor
fugg a name
bILL
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Raco, I'm not looking for a skunk that's related to skunk 1 but I've been wondering the same thing. I think growing outdoors in the heat and sun has something to do with getting a truly pungent skunk. Has anyone noticed how veg plants stink much more when they're hot? I'm curious about ogbub's skunk ibl when grown outdoors.
I believe the hairless skunk I've refered to is an old american line dating back to the depression possibly of brazilian or very old african origin. It definitely dates from before the gulf war. This stuff was the most consistent american strain I've ever seen and yet it was full acclimated. You could randomyl pick two 8" buds from the same grower the same season and you couldn't ever tell the difference between the two. Every calyx would be the same color as every leaf and every leaf would be the same color as every stem. Every 8" bud would be the same width as every other 8" bud. Do you know how many years of inbreeding a line has to go through to be that homogenous especially considering it is only bred once a year? After talking to someone it hit me that it was very brazilian in buzz. Flower structure, leafe shape, plant structure etc were also very brazilian. It may have been descended from a similar atlantic african strain also. The Sao Paulo Green aka Little Start or Original Green is extremely similar and grows well outdoors in the south and has the same monotone flowers and flower structure. Regardless I'm fairly certain that sinsemilla killed the hairless skunk or came close. In the bags we'd find about 15 seeds per zip that would be very mature and located in the center of the flowers. This normally means that pollination only ocurred from early males because the later males were culled. This almost always means certain death for a strain. The interesting thing is I know of a grower who'd crossed his hairless skunk line to dutch genetics. After crossing it he increased the potency and vigor but it seems the dutch genetics were even less capable of reatining potency using the same selection techniques and sadly it became absolutely unsmokeable within 3 years of crossing it. I still have seeds from the line post introduction of dutch genes if anyones interested but they're hardly worth the effort.
I believe the hairless skunk I've refered to is an old american line dating back to the depression possibly of brazilian or very old african origin. It definitely dates from before the gulf war. This stuff was the most consistent american strain I've ever seen and yet it was full acclimated. You could randomyl pick two 8" buds from the same grower the same season and you couldn't ever tell the difference between the two. Every calyx would be the same color as every leaf and every leaf would be the same color as every stem. Every 8" bud would be the same width as every other 8" bud. Do you know how many years of inbreeding a line has to go through to be that homogenous especially considering it is only bred once a year? After talking to someone it hit me that it was very brazilian in buzz. Flower structure, leafe shape, plant structure etc were also very brazilian. It may have been descended from a similar atlantic african strain also. The Sao Paulo Green aka Little Start or Original Green is extremely similar and grows well outdoors in the south and has the same monotone flowers and flower structure. Regardless I'm fairly certain that sinsemilla killed the hairless skunk or came close. In the bags we'd find about 15 seeds per zip that would be very mature and located in the center of the flowers. This normally means that pollination only ocurred from early males because the later males were culled. This almost always means certain death for a strain. The interesting thing is I know of a grower who'd crossed his hairless skunk line to dutch genetics. After crossing it he increased the potency and vigor but it seems the dutch genetics were even less capable of reatining potency using the same selection techniques and sadly it became absolutely unsmokeable within 3 years of crossing it. I still have seeds from the line post introduction of dutch genes if anyones interested but they're hardly worth the effort.
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Yeah AE,my last post was my own special way of showing you that you were getting too big for your britches,it's a shame you didn't pay attention.
There's plenty of Cannaboards on the web,perhaps you'll find one where it's considered appropriate behavior to call everyone ass lickers and act like a jerk.
This is not JLP's forum,this is the Breeder's forum and it belongs to IC mag and in a broader sense it belongs to the members,most of whom can have a discussion in a civil manner,or at least half civil.There have been a lot of different views expressed on this thread but only one produced a mod alert.And that usually requires a death threat or spam.
What is Skunk?
Well guys,after 20 pages I've come to the conclusion that Skunk is whatever the hell you think it is.
JLP
There's plenty of Cannaboards on the web,perhaps you'll find one where it's considered appropriate behavior to call everyone ass lickers and act like a jerk.
This is not JLP's forum,this is the Breeder's forum and it belongs to IC mag and in a broader sense it belongs to the members,most of whom can have a discussion in a civil manner,or at least half civil.There have been a lot of different views expressed on this thread but only one produced a mod alert.And that usually requires a death threat or spam.
What is Skunk?
Well guys,after 20 pages I've come to the conclusion that Skunk is whatever the hell you think it is.
JLP
CaptJamesTKirk
Active member
bILLy WoNkA said:
Friends of the FINEST caliber, where else could one get such an offer?
I know education is never cheap,,, buttt,,,,,
Geee Mr. Postman, that really does stink dosen't it? Wana smoke a doobie with me?
I LOVE THE SMELL OF DEAD SKUNK IN THE MORNING!!!
IT SMELLS LIKE WEED!
If I'm the only one amused, I'll deleat the post.
I never realized Brits had no skunks - hmmmm
Shine on all!
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Texas Kid
Member
Remember this Sam??
Sam has since refuted almost all this as fiction when it was offered up a few years ago but it is a real good read, entertaining as hell.
Skunk#1 was the result of a communal breeding effort by a small clique of breeders who worked the coastal hills surounding the Bay Area. The first "skunk" plant (C.Gold x AFG unstable) was not discovered by this group but Jingles who cut the unstable line but kept this one special plant for his personal garden. This was around '69 or so. anyway, the clone made its way round the club and soon this Bay Area group decided to adopt it as a project.
With the C.Gold mom used by Jingles as well as the Haze Bros they set about trying to create a stable version of Jingles "skunk". The result would be known as Skunk#1. Columbian Gold x Acapulco Gold/Afgani There are better people around here to tell you the exact details, not the least whom is Sam_Skunkman over @ TFD. Yes it's him.
My understanding of the SK#1 breeding group is that it started very small and grew as time went by. SkMan starting out as a Jr grower in the late 60's and rising to the level of chief breeder and seedmaker for the seed co.
in the late 70's/early 80's. It was supposed to have been very difficult to join this group and a prospect would first have to be sponsered by a member of the inner circle then be required to breed out a certain number of versions of Sk#1 from both clones provided by the club as well as genetics they provided themselves. This way they assured quality control and widened the gene pool at the same time. The original unstable "model skunk"plant was a direct cross of C.Gold x Afg. But the Bay Area people soon found out how difficult it was going to be to cross a C.Gold to anything. So it was found that it was easier to cross these difficult plants to a plant that was already hybribized. Hence the Introduction of A.Gold into the mix. This also apparently added two other favorable traits. In addition to making crosses easier, high GCA has been stated by Clark as one of the goals of the breeders, the A.Gold also marginaly reduced flower time but most importent was its addition to calyx/leaf ratio. If you turn to P 248 of Mels Dlx you will find a pic of four mexican colas. Notice the two shots on the bottom are taken against the backround of Sandy W's barn. I'm almost 100% sure the plant on the lower right is A.Gold and about 90% that it's the primary A.Gold mom in Sk#1. Notice the foxtail style buds and hi C/L. Now imagine this crossed to an afgani, starting to get the picture? By the way most but not all of the Afganis were from MLW.
As i said earlier most of the Sacred Seeds breeding groups suffered disasters of one sort or another in the early days and in the case of Sk#1 it was the dreaded botritis cinerea, grey mold. Introduced by some of the early afgani crosses it kicked of a massive afgan genetics hunt/torture test. And while the late great Maple Leaf Wilson provided most of the genes they scowered every nook and cranny for an Afgani ;0. Many non Skunk#1 members of the Sacred Seeds who were also working on their own projects got involved.
I already spoke about Sandy W's involment and there were apparently others though the only one I am reasonably sure of was an East Bay biker/Vietnam Vet who went by the handle "Mendacino Joe", who as you can probably guess by his name he was supposed to have been one of the founders of the Trinity grow scene. Joe was working on a grape/pepper flavored mostly afgani hybrid not related to Sk#1, but he had a large collection of genetics and was a good grower and so he was included in the torture tests. The ultimate result of these tests was a special line called Skunk#18.2 (Sk#1 x Afg bx-1). It is a line that inparts incredible hardiness and pest/disease resistance on its offspring.
The Skunkman brought several kilos of these seeds with him along with his other stuff when he moved to holland in '82 in the wake of his release from prison.As far as I know he has only given these seeds to Nevil, Shanti, and Wernhard from Positronics. (ever wonder why Shiva Skunk {NL#5 x SK#1) is so resistant to spider mites?) In the wake of the Sacred Seeds bust in '82, "Mendacino Joe" moved to the Vancouver islands and changing his handle to "Romulan" Joe bringing with him some early Sk#1s or deriviteves, a line of Central Ithsmus lowland Thai that may have been purchased from the Haze Bros and of course his grape/pepper flovored indica strain, Romulan. Soon to
be a BC classic. It was these lines that Pr. Ziggy @ Federation seeds in BC was supposed to have purchased from old Joe shorly before his death, and are offered as Island Sweet Skunk, Golden Triangle Thai, and Romulan. Torture tests and "inoculations" were mostly done outdoors with special patches of extra clones in an isolated area, which were then diliberatly infected. Deseased and pest riddled local plants would be transplanted into these special gardens and then the plants were tested to destruction while the growers watched and made note of the strongest individauls. Sacred Seeds was all about division of labor.It's one of the ways they accomplished so much in so little time and they used natural selection to work in their favor. Skunk#1 first went on sale in '78 or '79. As far as I know it was the only strain that Sacred Seeds didn't give a discount on orders over 1k seeds. Seeds were 2$ a peice and people bitched about prices even back then. Especialy that no discount thing But like the Hazes (which could sellout a year ahead) SK#1 sold out every year. The seeds were sold as F1's made if I recall with a F ? fillial plant backcrossed to one of the original parents. Due to the communal nature of the project,there were many parents as each breeder included his own varietion, Skunk#1s bred from the same P1 stock but often getting to the goal a different way, for instance some variations used C.Gold on the male side. With tight control over the P1s the breeders could assure their stated goal of making true breeding stock but with the widest possible gene pool they could also be sure to achieve both high SCA and GCA. also stated goals of the project.
Now I can tell you from personal experience that exactly what constituted a "skunk" was a matter of just a little debate but they basically came down into camps which actually carried forward into the Dutch world. The "Sweet Skunk" camp, which including the SkMan, and the "Stinky Skunk" camp. In terms of modern Sk#1 the CC/TFD Skunkman bred "the Pure" is bred for more consistant plants and towards the SkMans ideal Sk#1. While the stinky side of the house would be best represented by the SeedBank/Mr Nice skunks which also have more variation in types like the earlier California skunks. I must state here that there is no right answer, its a matter of taste and a debate thats been going for on about 30 years. In '82 I came home one night and turned on the TV. Just as they went to commercial the news bimbo teased the story, "comin right up after this" police official say they got the source of the skunk. Yeah right I thought, we'd heard these claims before, always to be followed by shot of some deputies pulling three scragly plants from some poor sucker's patch. This time it was different, this time they were standing in front of a warehouse.
Sacred Seeds was busted in '82. The Skunkman was arrested and the cops were in possetion of the groups main seedmaking op. But this bunch was savey and had pre-paid bailbonds/lawyers on retainer and so SkMan was out in a matter of hours. And so began one of the greatest capers in Sacred Seeds history.
An event I will call "the great rootball rescue". Skunkman, out on bail and eager to find out the condition of his grow rooms stakes out the grow to make sure the cops aren't waiting there for him. After sitting for hours he finally gets over his paranoia and makes a cursery recon and can't believe what he finds, the cops in either there arrogance or ignorance have left the place secured with only police tape. checking the grow as well as the dumpster out back the found many plants cut well above the the first node and some that had been simply pulled from their containers and tossed whole. the dumpster was also full of seeds and it was obvious that the cops had broken many seed containers but because there were so many eventually just started throwing jars out whole. the cops had left all the stuff there until morning when they could properly catolog it, including all the grow equip. Skunkman sprang into action, called a number of the un-busted members of the club and the "great rootball rescue" was under way. His friends showed up and they litteraly stripped the place of every thing usefull. Lights were sold to pay legal fees, the rootballs, including the Haze mom SkMan has to this day were nursed back to health by the people who escaped prosicution and the police were left with a distinct lack of evidence. Causing some of the cases to collapse entirly and some, like SkMan to serve greatly reduced sentances. If they'de gotten him on everything they wanted him for he'd still be there. Instead, He served less than a year and on his release he collected up his strains from his friends, including Sk#18.2 rescued from the dumpster and made his way to amsterdam were he founded Cultivators Choice seed co, named after the top award at the annual Sacred Seeds harvest fests held in Nor Cal from 67-83. A year later Skunkmans new friend aqquire a second batch of Sacred Seeds Sk#1 seeds. When Cultivators Choice went out of biz a few year later Nevil bought most of their stock. While both worked from the same set of Sk#1 females each has there own males (breeders never give up a male) selected from the only two importations of authentic Sk#1 into Holland.
The Cultivators Choice variation is the one offered by TFD as "the Pure" The SeedBank version is @ Mr Nice, Shanti's Shit is his Sk#1/Afg variation with "Pure Shit" aka pure Sk#1 upcoming. I'm sure there's more but I'm all
"skunked" out right now. Peace NdF
This is still a couple of places here and about, so now everyone can get confused as hell..hehehehe
Love your work Sam, (Hawaiian Indica #7 x Skunk#1) x Skunk #1 was something for the record books, I loved that shit..
Tex
Sam has since refuted almost all this as fiction when it was offered up a few years ago but it is a real good read, entertaining as hell.
Skunk#1 was the result of a communal breeding effort by a small clique of breeders who worked the coastal hills surounding the Bay Area. The first "skunk" plant (C.Gold x AFG unstable) was not discovered by this group but Jingles who cut the unstable line but kept this one special plant for his personal garden. This was around '69 or so. anyway, the clone made its way round the club and soon this Bay Area group decided to adopt it as a project.
With the C.Gold mom used by Jingles as well as the Haze Bros they set about trying to create a stable version of Jingles "skunk". The result would be known as Skunk#1. Columbian Gold x Acapulco Gold/Afgani There are better people around here to tell you the exact details, not the least whom is Sam_Skunkman over @ TFD. Yes it's him.
My understanding of the SK#1 breeding group is that it started very small and grew as time went by. SkMan starting out as a Jr grower in the late 60's and rising to the level of chief breeder and seedmaker for the seed co.
in the late 70's/early 80's. It was supposed to have been very difficult to join this group and a prospect would first have to be sponsered by a member of the inner circle then be required to breed out a certain number of versions of Sk#1 from both clones provided by the club as well as genetics they provided themselves. This way they assured quality control and widened the gene pool at the same time. The original unstable "model skunk"plant was a direct cross of C.Gold x Afg. But the Bay Area people soon found out how difficult it was going to be to cross a C.Gold to anything. So it was found that it was easier to cross these difficult plants to a plant that was already hybribized. Hence the Introduction of A.Gold into the mix. This also apparently added two other favorable traits. In addition to making crosses easier, high GCA has been stated by Clark as one of the goals of the breeders, the A.Gold also marginaly reduced flower time but most importent was its addition to calyx/leaf ratio. If you turn to P 248 of Mels Dlx you will find a pic of four mexican colas. Notice the two shots on the bottom are taken against the backround of Sandy W's barn. I'm almost 100% sure the plant on the lower right is A.Gold and about 90% that it's the primary A.Gold mom in Sk#1. Notice the foxtail style buds and hi C/L. Now imagine this crossed to an afgani, starting to get the picture? By the way most but not all of the Afganis were from MLW.
As i said earlier most of the Sacred Seeds breeding groups suffered disasters of one sort or another in the early days and in the case of Sk#1 it was the dreaded botritis cinerea, grey mold. Introduced by some of the early afgani crosses it kicked of a massive afgan genetics hunt/torture test. And while the late great Maple Leaf Wilson provided most of the genes they scowered every nook and cranny for an Afgani ;0. Many non Skunk#1 members of the Sacred Seeds who were also working on their own projects got involved.
I already spoke about Sandy W's involment and there were apparently others though the only one I am reasonably sure of was an East Bay biker/Vietnam Vet who went by the handle "Mendacino Joe", who as you can probably guess by his name he was supposed to have been one of the founders of the Trinity grow scene. Joe was working on a grape/pepper flavored mostly afgani hybrid not related to Sk#1, but he had a large collection of genetics and was a good grower and so he was included in the torture tests. The ultimate result of these tests was a special line called Skunk#18.2 (Sk#1 x Afg bx-1). It is a line that inparts incredible hardiness and pest/disease resistance on its offspring.
The Skunkman brought several kilos of these seeds with him along with his other stuff when he moved to holland in '82 in the wake of his release from prison.As far as I know he has only given these seeds to Nevil, Shanti, and Wernhard from Positronics. (ever wonder why Shiva Skunk {NL#5 x SK#1) is so resistant to spider mites?) In the wake of the Sacred Seeds bust in '82, "Mendacino Joe" moved to the Vancouver islands and changing his handle to "Romulan" Joe bringing with him some early Sk#1s or deriviteves, a line of Central Ithsmus lowland Thai that may have been purchased from the Haze Bros and of course his grape/pepper flovored indica strain, Romulan. Soon to
be a BC classic. It was these lines that Pr. Ziggy @ Federation seeds in BC was supposed to have purchased from old Joe shorly before his death, and are offered as Island Sweet Skunk, Golden Triangle Thai, and Romulan. Torture tests and "inoculations" were mostly done outdoors with special patches of extra clones in an isolated area, which were then diliberatly infected. Deseased and pest riddled local plants would be transplanted into these special gardens and then the plants were tested to destruction while the growers watched and made note of the strongest individauls. Sacred Seeds was all about division of labor.It's one of the ways they accomplished so much in so little time and they used natural selection to work in their favor. Skunk#1 first went on sale in '78 or '79. As far as I know it was the only strain that Sacred Seeds didn't give a discount on orders over 1k seeds. Seeds were 2$ a peice and people bitched about prices even back then. Especialy that no discount thing But like the Hazes (which could sellout a year ahead) SK#1 sold out every year. The seeds were sold as F1's made if I recall with a F ? fillial plant backcrossed to one of the original parents. Due to the communal nature of the project,there were many parents as each breeder included his own varietion, Skunk#1s bred from the same P1 stock but often getting to the goal a different way, for instance some variations used C.Gold on the male side. With tight control over the P1s the breeders could assure their stated goal of making true breeding stock but with the widest possible gene pool they could also be sure to achieve both high SCA and GCA. also stated goals of the project.
Now I can tell you from personal experience that exactly what constituted a "skunk" was a matter of just a little debate but they basically came down into camps which actually carried forward into the Dutch world. The "Sweet Skunk" camp, which including the SkMan, and the "Stinky Skunk" camp. In terms of modern Sk#1 the CC/TFD Skunkman bred "the Pure" is bred for more consistant plants and towards the SkMans ideal Sk#1. While the stinky side of the house would be best represented by the SeedBank/Mr Nice skunks which also have more variation in types like the earlier California skunks. I must state here that there is no right answer, its a matter of taste and a debate thats been going for on about 30 years. In '82 I came home one night and turned on the TV. Just as they went to commercial the news bimbo teased the story, "comin right up after this" police official say they got the source of the skunk. Yeah right I thought, we'd heard these claims before, always to be followed by shot of some deputies pulling three scragly plants from some poor sucker's patch. This time it was different, this time they were standing in front of a warehouse.
Sacred Seeds was busted in '82. The Skunkman was arrested and the cops were in possetion of the groups main seedmaking op. But this bunch was savey and had pre-paid bailbonds/lawyers on retainer and so SkMan was out in a matter of hours. And so began one of the greatest capers in Sacred Seeds history.
An event I will call "the great rootball rescue". Skunkman, out on bail and eager to find out the condition of his grow rooms stakes out the grow to make sure the cops aren't waiting there for him. After sitting for hours he finally gets over his paranoia and makes a cursery recon and can't believe what he finds, the cops in either there arrogance or ignorance have left the place secured with only police tape. checking the grow as well as the dumpster out back the found many plants cut well above the the first node and some that had been simply pulled from their containers and tossed whole. the dumpster was also full of seeds and it was obvious that the cops had broken many seed containers but because there were so many eventually just started throwing jars out whole. the cops had left all the stuff there until morning when they could properly catolog it, including all the grow equip. Skunkman sprang into action, called a number of the un-busted members of the club and the "great rootball rescue" was under way. His friends showed up and they litteraly stripped the place of every thing usefull. Lights were sold to pay legal fees, the rootballs, including the Haze mom SkMan has to this day were nursed back to health by the people who escaped prosicution and the police were left with a distinct lack of evidence. Causing some of the cases to collapse entirly and some, like SkMan to serve greatly reduced sentances. If they'de gotten him on everything they wanted him for he'd still be there. Instead, He served less than a year and on his release he collected up his strains from his friends, including Sk#18.2 rescued from the dumpster and made his way to amsterdam were he founded Cultivators Choice seed co, named after the top award at the annual Sacred Seeds harvest fests held in Nor Cal from 67-83. A year later Skunkmans new friend aqquire a second batch of Sacred Seeds Sk#1 seeds. When Cultivators Choice went out of biz a few year later Nevil bought most of their stock. While both worked from the same set of Sk#1 females each has there own males (breeders never give up a male) selected from the only two importations of authentic Sk#1 into Holland.
The Cultivators Choice variation is the one offered by TFD as "the Pure" The SeedBank version is @ Mr Nice, Shanti's Shit is his Sk#1/Afg variation with "Pure Shit" aka pure Sk#1 upcoming. I'm sure there's more but I'm all
"skunked" out right now. Peace NdF
This is still a couple of places here and about, so now everyone can get confused as hell..hehehehe
Love your work Sam, (Hawaiian Indica #7 x Skunk#1) x Skunk #1 was something for the record books, I loved that shit..
Tex
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im gonna go waaaaaaaaaay the fugg out on a limb... almost to the point where that last leaf hold the weight of this comment and say..
diesel and its family is rks.. or related
i have just gotten a whiff of some in the veg stage... and it smells damn close to some skunky shit ive grown before..
we'll see though
bILL
I wonder why so many people have clones of sweet Skunk #1's and no one seems to have clones of RKS Skunk #1 or #2? Maybe because they did not care enough to keep the RKS alive? Or is it just that no one has clones from 20 years ago? Whatever the reason it is hard to believe that not one single person has a RKS Skunk #1 in clone form?
I have it in seed form but I don't really want to do the work to make it available again, it is a lot of work and takes a lot of space and time to do it right. I do not want the seeds just knocked-off. And I know I do not want to give it away, it is my work and I will get back to it eventually, when I have the time.
In the beginning, 1976, most SKUNK #1's were skunky as hell.
The smell was just like a dead skunk. I could smell grows outdoors or even early indoor grows sometimes a few blocks before the grow.
The seeds from the best used to make other seeds, the males were from the best line from the year before, the line was maintained by seeds only as clones were not used back then. Because the line was maintained by seed a natural variation exsisted, the plants were not Homozygous they were Heterozygous, even if they did breed pretty much true.
I selected the best in my opinion for about ten years and reproduced the Skunk #1 each year a bit sweeter as I like the high much better then the RKS, which did not get me high, it just got me loaded.
After 10 years I take Skunk #1 elite seed lines to Amsterdam, I also had a some Skunk #2 that were much more RKS like, I did not work with them.
In the Netherlands I started to use clones to make seeds, and by its nature changed Skunk #1 by using clones. I selected the best 10 females and the best 10 males from a really large crop of thousands of Skunk #1. I took the resulting clones and crossed them, making 100 populations of 200 plants each, 100 females to evaluate from each cross. When I decided which population gave the best and most consistant results I used that female clone and the chosen male clone to make seeds. The resulting seeds are consistant as hell and give grows that look like a crop from clones. They do have a small bit of variation but they do not change year to year. But they are all sweet. Because that is what I like and spent my time to create. These were used by most other seed companies to make Skunk and Skunk hybrid lines.
REMEMBER THAT MOST SKUNK SEEDS AVAILABLE ARE MADE BY OTHER BREEDERS USING MY LINES, NOT ME!!
I do not like the herb that gets you totaly loaded, physical, couchlock....
I do respect others choices, if they want it fine...
But I do not like it at all, I want to get so high I don't know what I am doing, but I do not want to get loaded, I do not like it.
-SamS
Angle Eyes,
"I have just as much right as anyone to say that I think these so-called breeders are just guys who grow dope. If you or anyone else wants to take that as a criticism of growing dope, that your misunderstanding, not mine.
They are dope growers, and all I object to is their constant arrogance and rudeness which is based on the false notion that they have special talents. They don't. They are dope growers, not genetic miracle-workers.
What can I say... the internet sometimes brings out the devil in me.
Not that I don't mean everything I say here, because I do. But there is a point where I have to scratch my head and ask, "just because I think someone's a phoney, do I really have to say it out loud?"
Just because you have the right to does not mean you should. People that spend a lot of time calling other people names, have something wrong with them, I suspect.
-SamS
Texas Kid,
You are right it is all lies and made up crap. Someone posted it trying to get attention a few years ago. It does have one or two facts thrown in with the lies.
-SamS
I have it in seed form but I don't really want to do the work to make it available again, it is a lot of work and takes a lot of space and time to do it right. I do not want the seeds just knocked-off. And I know I do not want to give it away, it is my work and I will get back to it eventually, when I have the time.
In the beginning, 1976, most SKUNK #1's were skunky as hell.
The smell was just like a dead skunk. I could smell grows outdoors or even early indoor grows sometimes a few blocks before the grow.
The seeds from the best used to make other seeds, the males were from the best line from the year before, the line was maintained by seeds only as clones were not used back then. Because the line was maintained by seed a natural variation exsisted, the plants were not Homozygous they were Heterozygous, even if they did breed pretty much true.
I selected the best in my opinion for about ten years and reproduced the Skunk #1 each year a bit sweeter as I like the high much better then the RKS, which did not get me high, it just got me loaded.
After 10 years I take Skunk #1 elite seed lines to Amsterdam, I also had a some Skunk #2 that were much more RKS like, I did not work with them.
In the Netherlands I started to use clones to make seeds, and by its nature changed Skunk #1 by using clones. I selected the best 10 females and the best 10 males from a really large crop of thousands of Skunk #1. I took the resulting clones and crossed them, making 100 populations of 200 plants each, 100 females to evaluate from each cross. When I decided which population gave the best and most consistant results I used that female clone and the chosen male clone to make seeds. The resulting seeds are consistant as hell and give grows that look like a crop from clones. They do have a small bit of variation but they do not change year to year. But they are all sweet. Because that is what I like and spent my time to create. These were used by most other seed companies to make Skunk and Skunk hybrid lines.
REMEMBER THAT MOST SKUNK SEEDS AVAILABLE ARE MADE BY OTHER BREEDERS USING MY LINES, NOT ME!!
I do not like the herb that gets you totaly loaded, physical, couchlock....
I do respect others choices, if they want it fine...
But I do not like it at all, I want to get so high I don't know what I am doing, but I do not want to get loaded, I do not like it.
-SamS
Angle Eyes,
"I have just as much right as anyone to say that I think these so-called breeders are just guys who grow dope. If you or anyone else wants to take that as a criticism of growing dope, that your misunderstanding, not mine.
They are dope growers, and all I object to is their constant arrogance and rudeness which is based on the false notion that they have special talents. They don't. They are dope growers, not genetic miracle-workers.
What can I say... the internet sometimes brings out the devil in me.
Not that I don't mean everything I say here, because I do. But there is a point where I have to scratch my head and ask, "just because I think someone's a phoney, do I really have to say it out loud?"
Just because you have the right to does not mean you should. People that spend a lot of time calling other people names, have something wrong with them, I suspect.
-SamS
Texas Kid,
You are right it is all lies and made up crap. Someone posted it trying to get attention a few years ago. It does have one or two facts thrown in with the lies.
-SamS
Texas Kid
Member
doesn't even begin to cover it for me Sam, thank you...It would get hard to take from people selecting from 10, 20, hell even a 100 beans trying to find something worth talkin about and you were rollin out with 20 thousand plants at a whack for selection.....i'm not worthy.....i'm not worthy
Thanks again my brutha and keep the passion
Tex
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Guest
attn: Sam Skunkman
i thought the first part of yer post was a quote.. and skipped over it..
now i see..
question answered
peace to you!
bILL
i thought the first part of yer post was a quote.. and skipped over it..
now i see..
question answered
peace to you!
bILL
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Guest
my point had nothing to do with money, i know the words i pick can be decieving..
but really.. if you have it... why not make it available?
for money or not..
if i know i got somthing that a whole shitload of people are looking for... i would feel bad keeping it to myself
but im billy.. and he's sam... and your a kid from texas..
and im also drunk
and not trying to argue anything here..
peace to all
bILL
but really.. if you have it... why not make it available?
for money or not..
if i know i got somthing that a whole shitload of people are looking for... i would feel bad keeping it to myself
but im billy.. and he's sam... and your a kid from texas..
and im also drunk
and not trying to argue anything here..
peace to all
bILL
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Guest
"I have just as much right as anyone to say that I think these so-called breeders are just guys who grow dope. If you or anyone else wants to take that as a criticism of growing dope, that your misunderstanding, not mine.
They are dope growers, and all I object to is their constant arrogance and rudeness which is based on the false notion that they have special talents. They don't. They are dope growers, not genetic miracle-workers.
amen Sam!'
bd
They are dope growers, and all I object to is their constant arrogance and rudeness which is based on the false notion that they have special talents. They don't. They are dope growers, not genetic miracle-workers.
amen Sam!'
bd
