Well.... Is it 860 or 891
It is currently up to 912 deaths per million.
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It is currently up to 912 deaths per million.
75% of which are people over 70...
Who do sometimes die.
The life Expectancy for an American man is 76.
Are some people losing the tail end of their twilight years to a communicable disease
Sure.
Is that worth destroying small bizness
School age kids mental health and education
And the poor to try to very unsuccessfully mitigate the damage to old folks?
Obviously not..
Is having a thriving business worth destroying the earth ?
What a strawman of an argument...
I wasn’t aware the earth was in danger of being destroyed.. (perhap it will get slightly warmer. Which is hardly an apocalyptic scenario) (( btw who is in the cult now?))
Also, not sure how govt arbitrarily banning some sectors from operating has anything to do with environmental health.
And lastly,
If it’s ur thriving biz and livelihood that was stolen by the govt... and you can no longer feed and house ur family... I don’t think mitigating neglible long term environmental impact is high on ur priority list.
Ever hear of Maslows hierarchy of needs?
Food and shelter are a humans top priority... base needs like food and shelter have to be met before higher order needs can be tackled.
I mean we could ALL commit mass suicide and that would be great for the earth..
But the ends don’t justify the means in that scenario..
Just like this covid lockdown bullshit.
I’m sorry that working people arbitrarily losing their homes and food source is such a joke to you.
It’s sad really that someone could be so obtuse
Can you think past trump at all... or is he the sole thought in ur universe?
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The Democrats seem to hate working people and small business owners now, probably because most voted Trump. They will eventually get the fuck over it.
Forgiveness isn’t a tenet of the social justice crowd.
They won’t get over our disobedience...
At least Not before they have their vengeance on the small business people and working class.
They will show us what happens to those who choose to disobey their arbitrary mandates.
(Gunshot wounds and jail cells)
Oh shit what an argument hh.
No wonder I have u on ignore
(ur not essential unless the govt says u are.)
Really astute reasoning...
I would say there are millions of out of work working class (read poor) people who would beg to differ...
The government doesn’t have a right to arbitrarily deem some people essential and other people disposable.
Every persons job is essential for their own survival.
It’s not like the govt has done anything to help..
$1200 bucks for 9 months
(Y’all can feed and house a family on $4.50 a day can’t u?)
Lets assume I am 45 y/o with fairly low risk of dying if I get covid .... lets assume my mum has asthma and she is 68.
All businesses are operating normally.
I go to work and my mum drops my kid off to school as I leave for work before school time.
Say, you got covid from a mate in a bar when you met him/her after work for a pint. You are asymptomatic. Your kid goes to same school and year as my kid and your partner now sick with covid drops your kid off at the same time as my mum drops mine off.
No-one currently wearing a mask. My mum and you partner were near vicinity to one another. My mum got covid, week and a half later she was hospitalized and another week later she died as her body wasn't able to deal with consequences.
I now have covid, my kid got covid, we are both locked in the house, and my mum has died.
How could we have prevented it? Well, maybe if the bar was closed, you and your buddy didn't have that beer? Maybe if your partner wouldn't have gotten covid?
Or if the school was closed ... Perhaps my mum would still be alive?
Please tell me how many processes can be put in place that could have prevented someones NOT bed ridden mothers, who are fully functional members of society, from dying?!
But no... obvs making money is more important than my mums or your dads or your friends only living relatives life!
All businesses are operating normally.
I go to work and my mum drops my kid off to school as I leave for work before school time.
Say, you got covid from a mate in a bar when you met him/her after work for a pint. You are asymptomatic. Your kid goes to same school and year as my kid and your partner now sick with covid drops your kid off at the same time as my mum drops mine off.
No-one currently wearing a mask. My mum and you partner were near vicinity to one another. My mum got covid, week and a half later she was hospitalized and another week later she died as her body wasn't able to deal with consequences.
I now have covid, my kid got covid, we are both locked in the house, and my mum has died.
How could we have prevented it? Well, maybe if the bar was closed, you and your buddy didn't have that beer? Maybe if your partner wouldn't have gotten covid?
Or if the school was closed ... Perhaps my mum would still be alive?
Please tell me how many processes can be put in place that could have prevented someones NOT bed ridden mothers, who are fully functional members of society, from dying?!
But no... obvs making money is more important than my mums or your dads or your friends only living relatives life!
i just posted the data the other day in one of these threads lol and the opposite of what you're saying is true.
You should of been an astronaut Mow.
Down here in America hundreds of thousands of people have died.
Isolating people and giving them needed money is the only way.
Unfortunately republicans insist on screwing the little guys as usual.
Thats pretty dam obtuse isn't it.
Is this the only support you guys got from your government? How have you not overthrown that government is beyond me!
you make that in one of the 10 cheapest cost of living states in the country. how about the other 40 states who can't survive on 34k?
you're young and it doesn't sound like you have kids so there's a bunch of costs you don't have to deal with.
as well as not having to pay $10k/yr for healthcare, another luxury not everyone else can afford to do.
The kicker is in the covid relief bill they borrowed $17,000 per citizen.
Took $15,800 of that and gave it to corporations
And gave each adult person a $1200 check
@zeez...
I would be more supportive of govt interventions if they WERE taking some of that money and helping those in need.
But they haven’t and they won’t.... it’s been nearly a year...
I’m Sorry people have died (it is though, a fact of life that those who are old and in poor health often die)
It’s obvious (semi) lockdowns are an ineffective policy to mitigate viral spread... (as evidenced by growing case numbers and similar infection and death rates in places with and without lockdowns.
What they’re great for is stripping money from poor folks and giving it to the 1%.
Anyway gotta head to work I probably only have a month left to make money before Biden shuts my industry back down
And is this Trumps administration who did that?
Yes, in part.
Imo It’s really a bi partisan effort to fuck those without enough resources to take year off work.
But for sure Trump and his admin are culpable..
At different points dems were blocking relief bills from going thru (pre election)...
Now it seems it’s republicans doing the relief blocking...
It’s a fucked situation imo
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