War

[JKD]

Hey Arabs, agree to accepting less than 1/2 of your own land for your 2/3 majority population. Be happy!

Mustard, it’s well worth learning the history for both ‘sides’ and understanding the decisions, rather than just looking at things in isolation. A strong opinion demands to be justified.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

i agree. why does a claim from a religion which is fake from 3000 to 4000 years ago matter more than the generations of people who lived in palestine pre-israel?

Jews and Arabs lived in Palestine before Israel was a state.

I'm not claiming either side is right, I have been claiming that both sides are wrong.

 

[Cannavore]

there are stories of some of the families who ended up in gaza from the '48 cleansing that pass down the keys to their original homes which are in now israel and don't exist any longer to i guess keep hope they will one day return and to of course to remember what was done to them.

zionists got some pages in a book

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Hey Arabs, agree to accepting less than 1/2 of your own land for your 2/3 majority population. Be happy!

That is how the Catastrophe washed out.

I don't think that you understand the Arabs rolled the dice and lost that round.

 

[Cannavore]

Jews and Arabs lived in Palestine before Israel was a state.

I'm not claiming either side is right, I have been claiming that both sides are wrong.

yeah and i think both sidesism isn't the play here chief lol. at what point does it become victim blaming? and to a further point, what do you expect when you hold people against their will for multiple generations? you're gonna get Oct 7th level blowback, it's just obvious.

 

[JKD]

That is how the Catastrophe washed out.

I don't think that you understand the Arabs rolled the dice and lost that round.

You don’t say!

 

[mean mr.mustard]

it's just obvious.

As obvious as both sides continuing the hate.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

You don’t say!

I did.

 

[JKD]

I did.

Well done you

 

[Cannavore]

As obvious as both sides continuing the hate.

how do you classify it as "both sides continuing the hate" if one side is just trying to live on the land they've lived for generationally and the other side are actively stealing their homes at gunpoint??? i really don't understand how you can say that. at some point there needs to be some sense of justice here, eh?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Hundreds of terrorists storming into homes killing civilians and taking hostages is not "just trying to live".

Both sides are hateful and bloodthirsty and no amount of Western words or tears will ever make a difference.

 

[JKD]

Hillel Cohen released an interesting book this year called: “Year Zero of the Arab-Israeli Conflict: 1929”

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Already off base... it started before that.

 

[JKD]

Already off base... it started before that.

Wow! Without even turning a page. Brilliant!

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I paid attention and took notes in history.

I don't need propaganda to fill gaps in knowledge there, at least.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Balfour was a dozen years prior, for one example.

 

[JKD]

I paid attention and took notes in history.

I don't need propaganda to fill gaps in knowledge there, at least.

Hahahahhahah
He’s a well respected career academic known for his work on Jewish-Arab relations in Palestine/Israel. But sure. Propaganda.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

He's an author.

 

[JKD]

He's an author.

He is an associate professor at the Department of Islam and Middle East Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and serves as the head of the Cherrick Center for the Study of Zionism and the State of Israel.

But author as well. Sure.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Lots of books being published for a teacher.