Be careful when you transplant them. You dont want the shock to cause a hermie. I had a Cambodian and a VietnamBlackThai herm last year when i transplanted them.They were in bud
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atomicfield
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hey hemp. or any other kind person, any idea what causes the buds to grow little tails out the top instead of staying tight and dense?
hey there!! some strains have what is call foxtailing. Where the calyxes are growin around the pistils. Basically as I understand it that is.... hope this helps
To be honest I'm not sure, I've heard some say it's due to heat but I've grown different strains under the exact same conditions and some have done this while other strains haven't. This leads me to believe it's a strain related issue but that's just a guess on my part.
Our Headband will throw little tassles out the very top at about 9 weeks. What are you growing? Is it a Kush? Chemdog family?
atomicfield
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hey thanks guys, pretty sure it was heat and strain related, master kush, put ac in room growing back to normal 
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Well there are a number of "natural" things that alter ph but the good ones for plants are rarely found around the home. I usually recommend to people that they purchase PH up and PH down from a grow shop and if they don't have one handy where they live order it online as ph adjusters isn't a marijuana only thing and therefore not likely to draw attention. It's not that expensive and usually these kinds of ph adjusters are made from the very nutrients we feed plants and therefore have a small nutritional value to them as well.
Another thing is that it's been my experience that most things we feed our plants will already lower ph. In my growroom I almost never need to lower the ph and almost always have to raise it.
The only household ph adjustment I can think of and is safe for the plants is coffee grounds which is mostly nitrogen (Coffee grounds have an NPK of 2-0-0). In veg coffee grounds would be good but in flower it might be less so, as nitrogen in flower is believed to slow the flowering process down.
mellow yellow
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Easy Hemp
Hope all is well with you. Great to see you are still helping so many!
Take it easy m8
Hope all is well with you. Great to see you are still helping so many!
Take it easy m8
Actually not that many really, the thread has been slow. Then again that's normal for summer. Hopefully once we move into the Fall/Winter Indoor growing season things will pick up again?
Protea
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I'm not certain if it's true but I have heard many experienced growers mention it and if you compare the NPK of fertilizer for the veg period with the NPK of fertilizer for the bloom period you should see that nitrogen is reduced in the bloom formula. I myself have never tried it because I've never had a need to and I wouldn't want to risk causing problems for a crop when it was getting near being finished, just to see if something was true or not.
Now I'm not saying that any nitrogen given during flower will interfere with the flowering process just additional nitrogen or nitrogen at higher then normal levels for a bloom fornula.
Protea
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thanks hampkat
I use a one step solution, so the same fert. troughout the grow. Aard or some such its called. and come recomended from the grow shop dude.
I can see some "strange" growt now, at week 7, of twelve. new shots growing outof the 2/3 finiched buds. and i speculated to myself that it is from to much fert. i think the res. is 1200 ppm, and a ph. of 6.3-4. I havent seen such before, have you? and could you shead som light on this for me please?
I use a one step solution, so the same fert. troughout the grow. Aard or some such its called. and come recomended from the grow shop dude.
I can see some "strange" growt now, at week 7, of twelve. new shots growing outof the 2/3 finiched buds. and i speculated to myself that it is from to much fert. i think the res. is 1200 ppm, and a ph. of 6.3-4. I havent seen such before, have you? and could you shead som light on this for me please?
Well when people speak of a res. and their nutrients in PPM they're usually refering to hydro and I know very little about Hydro as I've always grown in soil. Now the ph you mention is pretty much perfect for soil grows but one of the few things I know about Hydro is that the ph requirements are lower. Ideal for Hydro is a ph of about 5.8 so 6.3 - 6.4 would be too high and it would block the roots from being able to uptake Phosphorous and potassium which is what a plant needs mostly when buds are forming. A ph that high in hydro would still allow nitrogen thru however I'm not sure that's what's responsible for the new growth you're seeing?
You say you're in week 7 of 12 so I assume you're either growing a sativa or sativa dominent strain? If so then the growth you're seeing might be what they call foxtailing which seems to show up frequently in sativa strains. I don't think it's bad though, other then it makes the buds look s little funny. Otherwise though it puts out resin and smokes just as good as any other part of the bud.
Protea
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Thanks again hampkat.
Yes i have a res. that feeds the plants trough a small tropfblumat system, and the plants are grown in soil. a good soil from a very good nursery.
since my grow is a old bombshelter whitout water og a drain, i ues a water tank since i cant water them by hand. its too much work. and i have some periodes where i am away so the plant need to tend themselfs.
i will look around for foxtailing and se what i find.
cheers mate
Yes i have a res. that feeds the plants trough a small tropfblumat system, and the plants are grown in soil. a good soil from a very good nursery.
since my grow is a old bombshelter whitout water og a drain, i ues a water tank since i cant water them by hand. its too much work. and i have some periodes where i am away so the plant need to tend themselfs.
i will look around for foxtailing and se what i find.
cheers mate
Ah okay well if you're using soil then the ph levels you mentioned before are right where they should be. Foxtailing from what I gather isn't really that bad other then how it makes a bud look. It seems to be limited mostly if not entirely to Sativa and Sativa dominent strains. It also seems to me it shows up more frequently in strains that have Thai genetics in them. Also I've seen it suggested before that it's something that occurs went temps are too high.
You mentioned before that you felt they were the result of overfeeding. Now I've never measured my water nutrient mix in ppm so I have no idea if 1200 is too high. However if it is too high Foxtailing wouldn't be the first and only sign. Actually before you see the Foxtailing you should see signs of nutrient burn on your leaves starting at the tips. If you're not seeing that then it's extremely doubtful that you overfed your plants.
Other then the wretched economy life's been relatively good. Hopefully for you as well. Hey if you got any news on Lilma's condition I'd like to hear it. I heard a few months ago she has cancer but nothing since.
hey Hempcat! what's the skinny on high temperatures.
my canopy has been getting up to 100* but still looks ok.
i'm afeared it is too high from all i've heard, but the last run was the best smoke yet.
what is the real deal?
my canopy has been getting up to 100* but still looks ok.
i'm afeared it is too high from all i've heard, but the last run was the best smoke yet.
what is the real deal?
Well in my experience temps that high would result with poor ventilation and/or having the lights too close which would burn up the buds on the canopy. It would also affect bud size and resin production negatively and most likely it would cause heat stress which could lead to hermie growth.
Now it's important to note that I say "In my experience". That's important because the way I do things I don't supplement my grow with CO2. If one supplement's their grow with CO2 then you can run temps hotter without the harmful side effects. So if I ran my grows where the canopy was at 100 degrees F then my buds would be smaller, less coated with resin and the top buds in the canopy would be badly burned from light and heat stress. A person running with CO2 however would likely see a much better yield.
