Probably the most potent bubble hash I have ever tried was produced by a friend in BC using a breed they called Sweet Skunk grown outdoors organically. Mind blowing - in fact, a bit too much. Tried a lot of the Ca stuff and nothing has beaten it yet. It really comes down to a bunch of things but the extraction/treatment method is pivotal in producing as pure a product as possible. Basically though very potent Shatter or bubble hash etc can be produced whether using indoor hydro or outdoor organic.
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Probably the most potent bubble hash I have ever tried was produced by a friend in BC using a breed they called Sweet Skunk grown outdoors organically. Mind blowing - in fact, a bit too much. Tried a lot of the Ca stuff and nothing has beaten it yet. It really comes down to a bunch of things but the extraction/treatment method is pivotal in producing as pure a product as possible. Basically though very potent Shatter or bubble hash etc can be produced whether using indoor hydro or outdoor organic.
No one is going to force you to smoke Marlboro cornrow weed, SS.
You pays your money and you takes your chances. You smoke what you want to smoke and we will let the free market and individuals choose what they want to smoke.
Thanks Sam. I look forward to watching the growing, processing, and packaging of that fine dry sift on the Science Channel show, "How It's Made". It is amazing the high quality products that modern mass production techniques can produce.
Not as good as all imported hash is made from seeded plants, but that can be changed. Great hash from sinsi can be mass produced I have done it. For years none had as good of hash as me, I made it from whole big plants organically grown in the ground. Today folks are producing incredible hash but it is not economically viable to grind up whole plants grown under lights, and not needed. Use outdoor grown by the thousands.
-SamS
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Sam,
I hear you talk a lot about mass produced, outdoor organically grown resin…
So when's it coming?!
I hear you talk a lot about mass produced, outdoor organically grown resin…
So when's it coming?!
It has started and will soon be the norm, I can't say if it will take a year or more but it will come and dominate the market. Unless the smokers do not like resin, maybe they prefer herb that is weaker then the resin from the same clone? Everyone has their own preferences, some really do prefer herbal Cannabis, but great outdoor herbal Cannabis will be available for them, at a cheaper price then if grown under lights.
Look at BHO first it was a small part of the market, now it is significant part, it took less then a decade driven by cheaper prices, it was easier to just blast then manicure and do all the prep for buds. I know lots of folks that grow to blast, soon that will be harder to sell when organic dry sift is available with as high of potency in THC and much higher terpene contents. Would you prefer herbal cannabis, or blasted BHO from the same clone, or dry sift from the same clone that is as strong as the BHO in THC?
Your choice.....
I know what I would want.
-SamS
Look at BHO first it was a small part of the market, now it is significant part, it took less then a decade driven by cheaper prices, it was easier to just blast then manicure and do all the prep for buds. I know lots of folks that grow to blast, soon that will be harder to sell when organic dry sift is available with as high of potency in THC and much higher terpene contents. Would you prefer herbal cannabis, or blasted BHO from the same clone, or dry sift from the same clone that is as strong as the BHO in THC?
Your choice.....
I know what I would want.
-SamS
Dear sir
For a professional writer, you seem to have a lot of issues with reading.
NO, I am not saying that at all!
You reading comprehension is horrible.
Just read the text, not manipulate it in your mind?
See here's the problem, I see people putting words in other people's mouths - far too many inconsistencies to the known facts.
If I said it quote me, otherwise shut the hell up...MMM-K!
Are you getting paid for this sort of stuff??
@ GLOW
Since you continue to make this a personal attack on Stanky Balls, and not a discussion on topic:
Why the hell are all your supposed facts about Flower Dragon and such listed under a SATIRICAL HEADING AKA "NON-FACT"on your site?
I find this extremely alarming for a man that wants the world to know the truth.
Meanwhile spreading lies as facts?????
Seems like intentional deception to me!
Since we are getting personal!
For the record, I wish to keep personal matters out of this, but you seem to like to drag me through the mud.
But turnabout is fair play!
So let us keep personal matters out of it, and stick to the topic at hand, and quit putting words in my mouth, could we please?
I assume your reply will be more personal attacks......so go ahead if thats all ya got....I have tried to play nice, not you though.
So let the shit storm begin....LOL
At least Sam has the integrity to have this discussion like a real man.
He has made some valid points too!
Thank you Sam for keepin' it real!!
Dear sir
For a professional writer, you seem to have a lot of issues with reading.
NO, I am not saying that at all!
You reading comprehension is horrible.
Just read the text, not manipulate it in your mind?
See here's the problem, I see people putting words in other people's mouths - far too many inconsistencies to the known facts.
If I said it quote me, otherwise shut the hell up...MMM-K!
Are you getting paid for this sort of stuff??
@ GLOW
Since you continue to make this a personal attack on Stanky Balls, and not a discussion on topic:
Why the hell are all your supposed facts about Flower Dragon and such listed under a SATIRICAL HEADING AKA "NON-FACT"on your site?
I find this extremely alarming for a man that wants the world to know the truth.
Meanwhile spreading lies as facts?????
Seems like intentional deception to me!
Since we are getting personal!
For the record, I wish to keep personal matters out of this, but you seem to like to drag me through the mud.
But turnabout is fair play!
So let us keep personal matters out of it, and stick to the topic at hand, and quit putting words in my mouth, could we please?
I assume your reply will be more personal attacks......so go ahead if thats all ya got....I have tried to play nice, not you though.
So let the shit storm begin....LOL
At least Sam has the integrity to have this discussion like a real man.
He has made some valid points too!
Thank you Sam for keepin' it real!!
From diatribe above....
See here's the problem, I see people putting words in other people's mouths - far too many inconsistencies to the known facts.
If I said it quote me, otherwise shut the hell up...MMM-K!"
Quick response... To quote your very first sentences of your very first post.
I know your thinkin' Vote NO on legalizing cannabis WTF???
BUT
Read carefully and you may see things just a little differently!
If cannabis is legal you will not be able to provide yourself with medicine."
(I would say those words were pretty condemning, wouldn't you? Given you keep posting links to legalization examples where people can provide themselves with medicine.. )
How we going? Would you like me to dissect more of your bullshit and lies = the endless twists and turns you have made in an attempt to con people on IC Mag - rip apart your hidden agenda and discuss your real identity and your shilling on ICMag? Let's not --- Nice to see you have your knickers in a twist though
I think what you're missing here Mr been in the game 5 minutes and would fuck over the world to get what you want (for yourself and only yourself... fuck the people!!) and would shit on the memory of people who wouldn't piss on your type if you caught fire is that the only fool buying your shit is you. Now why not get some integrity (I predict not because you wouldn't recognize "integrity" if it walked up to you and smacked you in the face) and live in to your promise pasted pages ago that you would walk away (wave the white flag). Either way you're cooked and are just too stupid and deranged to know it. Now could we get back to the intelligent dialogue we were having (excluding you) surrounding production and prices in a legal framework. Peace and love and all that hippy stuff Stanky Balls (odd sign off BTW coming from a gun loving, tax evading, rip off scam artist red neck)... Glow
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SooperSmurph
Yeah because I've been espousing no legalization... At this point Sam is pontificating and the heads are just nodding, looking forward to cheap prices.
Pointless, perspectiveless, babble.
If you already made your money in this industry, wishing it to devolve into the tobacco industry and not caring because you won't be affected is just plain ignorant.
Pointless, perspectiveless, babble.
If you already made your money in this industry, wishing it to devolve into the tobacco industry and not caring because you won't be affected is just plain ignorant.
Is it just about you making money man ??
How about the consumers , dont they deserve the best quality at the lowest price ,
do you think its fair to keep it how it is for the consumer ??
In reality its just helping guys like u get richer ...
You cant comment on what the future quality will be like , cause you dont know ..
wonder how it would be for you if the shoe was on the other foot ??
S
SooperSmurph
You think they deserve the highest quality Marlboro.
I think the lowest quality indoor on the black market in that world will still be vastly superior to the phillip morris groovies.
I don't want Newport weed, I don't want Koolz Hash, I don't want Lucky Strike Live Resin, you're welcome to it.
I think the lowest quality indoor on the black market in that world will still be vastly superior to the phillip morris groovies.
I don't want Newport weed, I don't want Koolz Hash, I don't want Lucky Strike Live Resin, you're welcome to it.
Well since your standards are so high ,, you should get a job in quality control , we need guys like you ...
Hey i do understand your point man , but i really dont think its gonna be anything like your worrying about , ive seen what your worried about before ,, and as others have said , that Thai was some of the best we have had to date ...
It doesnt have to be like the mexican brick weed your comparing it too , im sure it will be nothing like that ,
good genetics , good climate , educated farmers , that will produce good quality pot , no doubt about it ...
S
SooperSmurph
As I've stated, several times, for me, it's about sustainability.
A market with more limitations on large scale production creates a bottleneck on supply, and therefore a stabilization point for prices. A regulated market is more sustainable than a pure free market, if the free market were perfect, we wouldn't be paying farmers to burn corn in the field, would we Sam?
An unregulated market where any land owner who wants to can do acreage of cannabis to bale up for a tobacco company, a month later it's on the shelf with all sorts of special stickers to distract you from the fact that the entire process of production and distribution has been annexed by mini monsantos.
If you want collapse so that Marlboro can own the Cannabis genome, you're just shooting yourself in the foot, or rather, in the lung, I just wish you weren't so focused on feeling right.
A market with more limitations on large scale production creates a bottleneck on supply, and therefore a stabilization point for prices. A regulated market is more sustainable than a pure free market, if the free market were perfect, we wouldn't be paying farmers to burn corn in the field, would we Sam?
An unregulated market where any land owner who wants to can do acreage of cannabis to bale up for a tobacco company, a month later it's on the shelf with all sorts of special stickers to distract you from the fact that the entire process of production and distribution has been annexed by mini monsantos.
If you want collapse so that Marlboro can own the Cannabis genome, you're just shooting yourself in the foot, or rather, in the lung, I just wish you weren't so focused on feeling right.
Glow, your posts make no sense at all.
You are a good dancer though.
You are a good dancer though.
Cheap shot, huh?
Why would anybody not in it for the money want to keep prices high? And why would Joe & Joan Stoner want that at all?
I'll be entirely pleased to see cheap weed, everywhere, if only to see cops & growers get over themselves. Not that I plan on actually buying much of it but most tokers will do it that way.
If what you want is to make money, don't get caught living in the past.
S
SooperSmurph
Sustainability or a rush towards a crash / industrialization of cannabis? I'm going to support the sustainable model with my every breath, because sustainable growth is the future of our planet.
I also like a bunch of other hippie sounding stuff like alternative energy and free range raised food animals, etc, I guess i'm a douche... w/e
Boom and crash that shuffles production into the hands of corporations, or sustainable growth like we've already seen that sees people in the industry with skill able to build their own businesses? Those are the two paths forward, yes they're both better than backwards into prohibition, but after 7 years of comparing Colorado (highly regulated wide scale model) and California (moderate to lowly regulated wide scale model), everything I've seen is telling me to continue supporting the regulated, limited model that has been developed here in Colorado. Less federal harassment, more tax revenue, more transparency which led to more trust from the public and various authorities.
If anyone wants to take the time, and put in the effort they can:
1.-Brew better beer than any from the store. Including the Micros.
2. Distill better whiskey than any from the store.
3. Grow better weed than what will be available when big biz takes over the market...
I know all this, not from speculation, but from experience..
Do I brew the very best beer I ever tasted, ..EVER? .. NO...that was in Czekoslavakia
Do I distill the very best rum that I ever drank? EVER .. NO...that was in Central America
Do I grow the very best pot in the world? .... NO, NO, NO.. that was Panamanian weed I smoked in the Bahamas
But i did it all myself, and it gets better the more time I put into it, and I am very satisfied with my own results, partly but not totally, because I made it myself..
If you want the very best of ANYTHING available, and don't want to take the time to learn how to make it yourself,,
Then be prepared to pay good money for it....
Because SOMEONE ELSE spent a lot of time to learn how to do it the BEST.. AND they deserve to be paid for their effort...
1.-Brew better beer than any from the store. Including the Micros.
2. Distill better whiskey than any from the store.
3. Grow better weed than what will be available when big biz takes over the market...
I know all this, not from speculation, but from experience..
Do I brew the very best beer I ever tasted, ..EVER? .. NO...that was in Czekoslavakia
Do I distill the very best rum that I ever drank? EVER .. NO...that was in Central America
Do I grow the very best pot in the world? .... NO, NO, NO.. that was Panamanian weed I smoked in the Bahamas
But i did it all myself, and it gets better the more time I put into it, and I am very satisfied with my own results, partly but not totally, because I made it myself..
If you want the very best of ANYTHING available, and don't want to take the time to learn how to make it yourself,,
Then be prepared to pay good money for it....
Because SOMEONE ELSE spent a lot of time to learn how to do it the BEST.. AND they deserve to be paid for their effort...
I don't want Cannabis grown under lights with such a high carbon footprint. I think it is a real shame to use energy to grow Cannabis when it is not required. Why do you think the best wine is not produced indoors under lights? Would it not be better quality by your standards? Don't you think that most people are drinking mass produced drinks? I don't drink at all, so not me.
I bet you really think it is impossible for American Cannabis farmers that grow outdoors to produce Cannabis of the highest quality? Even if the cleverest and best farmers of them spent all their time to find ways to grow great organic Cannabis outdoors they could not do it? Even though it has been done many times in the past, Thailand as the easiest mass example?
Maybe you are letting your wish for continued high prices cloud your judgement?
-SamS
I can't say as I approve of where you are coming from but I appreciate your honesty ---- versus the lies of the clown pretender who started this thread. It's nice to see a commercial grower - would be canna capitalist - come out and say as a few percent of the many cannabis consumers I am happy for the many to be fucked by authorities so that I can profit. Thus, I would vote for prohibition and all that represents to sustain my ability to earn money at the expense of the many. The truth is what I find offensive is the bullshit that would be canna capitalists spin to sustain arguments for prohibition. I don't find the truth offensive per se. The truth gives us transparency. You have the right to these beliefs and I even understand them and can empathize. Thanks for the honesty.
Glow, your posts make no sense at all.
You are a good dancer though.
As I said you're cooked... If I were you I would now disappear, I'd say with some dignity intact but you lost that long ago. Goodbye Stanky Balls (Mark) --
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