You are partly on track Hush!
End prohibition as it was wrong in the first place.
Can we agree on that?
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Vote NO to legalize cannabis....Or else
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You are partly on track Hush!
End prohibition as it was wrong in the first place.
Can we agree on that?
I apologize I should have been more direct and expanded a bit. I'm all for legalization but at the same time I believe people should be able to grow their own.
If it's only allowed in state approved stores there are a lot of people that cannot afford it at $20.00 a gram. (I know, I know, there will be total swag the pheasants can buy for $10/gram) That is what I was talking about. To read what you did into what i said is a stretch but I can see it getting twisted so I'll keep it simple and precise if I comment again..
I'm gonna re-post the comment I made back in August:
The OP makes a good point, and all this bickering is just BS..
New laws create New problems....
The old laws should just be wiped off the books, and then I can grow my own, right in the garden,
right beside my tomatos and bell peppers and nobody will give it a second thought.....
The OP makes a good point, and all this bickering is just BS..
New laws create New problems....
The old laws should just be wiped off the books, and then I can grow my own, right in the garden,
right beside my tomatos and bell peppers and nobody will give it a second thought.....
As a gardener, anyway, that's what I want too. OTOH, I'm cognizant to the fact that cannabis has been heavily demonized for 3 generations in this country. I'm sure that nothing bad would happen if we got what we wanted tomorrow morning but a lot of people aren't so sure of that. Fear of the unknown is natural & easily exploited by propagandists serving an authoritarian agenda.
People who aren't willing to make what they perceive as a wrenching change w/ unknown consequences can be led to the truth with incremental change. They know that a lot of people have smoked a lot of pot since the 60's. When marijuana is decriminalized, they know it, and they know from experience that life goes on as before. When MMJ is allowed in their state or the state of close friends & family, they see the same thing. When legalization in CO & other places does the same thing by any reasonable metric, they come to know that too. Hell, they've known about Amsterdam for a long while, but that's too distant, too different to be a big factor. Furriners & all that, but they know that the Dutch aren't crazy, either.
It becomes normal & they start to see reasons to legalize in their state, too, particularly when cannabis users offer to pay sin taxes as their side of the deal.
Enough of that & constraints originally introduced to appease nay sayers fall by the wayside, as well. Backyard growing will likely become commonplace rather shortly due to the vagueness of what a locked enclosed space really is and to CO sensibilities about property rights. There's a legal & perceptual briar patch there that Denver authorities, anyway, seem loathe to enter. The longer they stay away, the less likely that they'll ever approach it in a hardnosed way. They're not eager to try to convince a jury to convict anybody for doing in their back yard what they could legally do in their basement. That's been a non-starter afaict.
You haven't read what I said. What I have asserted is legalization in any guise that takes us one step further than where we were at. So if you are going to criminalize growers while decriminalizing simple possession than that is retarded and I don't support that at all.
What Shag's has done is dance and weave and cherry pick and then distort to start a fear campaign against legalization. The laughable point about this is that too many seem to have missed (yourself included) that while he has been playing the pied piper of prohibition he hasn't shown a shred of credible evidence that shows growers are giving up their right to grow in favour of any legalization laws that have been tabled in any state. Conversely, he has been sprung doctoring the evidence ( a point which also too many have missed and a point he hasn't addressed when called up on it). And yet here we are with a fear campaign that supports oppression and which was started by a person that is clearly either pro prohibition (for monetary gain no doubt) or has rocks for a brain.
Amen - well said. Shag's is a seriously confused individual. "For the people by the people" he screams but then says why should I get involved ROFL. What this clown seemingly wants is either prohibition or full legalization with nothing in between. So he screams.... VOTE NO TO PROGRESS THAT WILL TAKE US FURTHER TO THE POINT WE WANT TO BE AT... That is just as plain as dumb as it gets and is completely politically naive.
Shag's I'm hesitant to even answer. All I can say at this point is it may be more astute for you to stop spamming walls of shite everywhere and let others have their say without your interference and leading (Mr Pied Piper of Prohibition). As I said, we are done. I'm fed up with having to read your bullshit, distortions and misappropriations. Save it for people you can fool fool.
yeah, our elected officials know what's best for us, don't they?
If you understood the first thing about politics you'd understand that the democratic process enables anyone to draft a proposition and collect signatures and then lodge it. Rather than waste your time here why not get busy doing something real?
I do apologize for misunderstanding.
"So if you are going to criminalize growers while decriminalizing simple possession than that is retarded and I don't support that at all."
I strongly agree with this.
I was just about to say the same exact thing to you...funny?
Last I checked this was my thread!
You sir have the FREEDOM to leave when ever you would like.
If you don't like it turn the channel dude...Do you really need to be told this.
Oh by the way....Have you even read this thread?
If you only lived by the words that come out of your mouth?
This gets funnier by the post....ROFL
I think this is an honor GLOW himself TROLLING my thread!
Not everyone can say this...LOL
Funny thing is he seems to agree with me on 99% of the issues at hand!
Strange way to TROLL in my opinion...but OK!
What kind of personal attacks have you left fine TROLL...I mean sir!
This is a great statement and I said it first!
Did ya read the thread yet?
Why do you still sling mud when we seem to agree!
Because I'd rather just help you waste your time instead..
I'm outta here.....
Bud Green Sr on the job!!
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So do I. What's happening on this thread is Shag's has constructed a fear campaign where he is desperately trying to paint the picture that legalization will ultimately mean growers who legally had the right to grow before legalization will lose this legal right (as a vague as that right is in a state vs. fed situation). Therefore to quote Shag's "Vote No to Legalize Cannabis.... Or else" This claim is utter bullshit and not one shred of credible evidence has been put up to support this claim. What has been put up by the author of this campaign (the pied piper of prohibition) is doctored and misappropriated evidence. He's trying to con you folks - don't buy into the lie. That simple!
Strange then how you have posted multiple threads where you categorically state on numerous occasions that growers are going to lose their right to grow under legalization. BULLSHIT! Piss off and stop dancing or fix up the shit that you have started by doctoring and misappropriating facts. Come out and say I lied and as a result loads of growers believe they will lose their right to grow under legalization.
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