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Yup mistaken. My bad on that. But I still don't think that everyone on this site that provides marijuana in any quantity for whatever price the market will bear outside CO are some dirty, greedy, sorry pieces of shit like you have posted they are.
So that makes me wrong over the vote, makes you a dick for slighting more than 90% or so of the icmag and other canna boards membership. I'd rather be wrong than just a self righteous dick, Jhhnn.
Pipe dream. They would have to legalize hemp at the same time also. They won't do that. 80 years of prohibition proves that. The deck is stacked with those that oppose hemp because they are all bought and paid for by corporations that are against hemp.
Ok, your not delusional then. I was reading your post wrong.
I once believed that RISK = the high cost of weed.
However, I now see the high cost of weed strictly as greed. The STATE has basically told the rec market to keep the prices @ street values elsewhere, namely in the neighboring states, so that CO weed is not a huge draw for folks trying to load up and head back home.
So while I agree wholeheartedly that the new competition entering the market will change the dynamic of the wholesale side, I do not believe it will change/lower prices at a retail level. Basically...all it means it that those who are playing commercially will see cheaper supply and will make far more profit from each sale. In addition to the Black Market draw from other states, since this scheme (A64) IS all about instilling large sums of tax revenue into the State coffers, the likelihood of the State saying "sure..sell $20 eights rather than $60 1/8ths...is small.
Tax collections are already less than predicted However, contrary to the whine we are hearing here about how many $$$ are being ignored by not allowing expert horticulturists who also breed grow from their rented house - every dollar they do collect @ this point from retail sales is money they didn't collect previously/pre 64.
Hemp is all over the Midwest...growing wild along the county roads/old train track easements/etc. It would be interesting for someone to actually test these wild stands to see if there is CBD there. I KNOW there's no THC. LOL. We learned that shit in JR high school.
Thank you for that. I don't know quite why you're so hell bent to vilify me in other ways, however.
Reality says that if the risk is removed for producers then there will be more & bigger producers, so the reward per production unit will be much smaller as well. It can be no other way.State regulation favors much larger growers, as well.
I realize that threatens the lifestyles of outlaw growers in no small way. Some (notice that I said "some") will even fight to maintain a damaging & dishonest system for what they see as being to their personal advantage.
In that, they stand against the tide of social justice & equality for cannabis users. They place their interests above those of millions of other people. We should be able to agree on that, I hope.
We can't end the marijuana war that way. It damages the fabric of society, tears the people apart, sets us against each other in a myriad of ways. In order to end the war, recreational cannabis users (not just MMJ users) need to be granted full respect & dignity under the law.
QFT That's what a lot of people fear, regulations putting people out of business and cornering the market. Forming a regulatory privileged gang. Imposing regulations that small and upcoming growers cant conform to, perhaps do to the costs, and making the market smaller and reducing competition and choices for the consumer. The sick or otherwise.
Eventually without the competition the price does rise and the market grows smaller. Which means if inflation does not drive the price of production up and reduce disposable income for consumers who work they might survive. But the banking system in place requires the exponential growth of the money supply so that is not going to happen.
What will happen is the costs of production will rise with inflation , the disposable income will be reduced. They could only cater to wealthy consumers unless they want to sell at negative costs to try to make up for it in volume which is unlikely given the disposable income of everyone being reduced, and certainly it will not serve to the disabled and sick or people on fixed incomes which it was supposed to serve in the first place. They will all go out of business. Might I add ,this is when the black market will make a come back.
This is why it is fatal to have any regulations at all. Politicians and certain voters can not imagine that the people who specialize in catering to a demand know how to run a business better than they do. But the truth is if they did know how to run a business they would have one.
Those people are an extreme minority expressing what the vast majority hold to be a radical & impractical POV.This is what good people who want honest and open competition and just don't think the government has any business in the first place imposing any regulations on them, were talking about when they said you were being insulting.
Feel free. That's entirely optional in CO for the enjoyment of cannabis. Nobody has to risk prison to supply the desires of the populace.It's to no ones personal advantage to be put in a cage for a period of years or you entire life. There might be some people out there who think that ,you can not count me among them. I know it is a natural right I am not going to settle for privileges from a gang. That's my personal choice and fight to take up.
I think there is a misconception about the difference between repealing of laws vs regulation and licensing.
I live in a med state, and it also has decriminalized it under an oz. There no dispensaries that I know of because of the cost associated with complying with the regulations. When or if they ever do open one or two they will basically have a monopoly on the industry, everyone else is going to jail. It does not solve anything. They skipped straight to regulatory capture of an industry. Its a warning to others what the end result of this method will be eventually.
Standard libertopian boilerplate in defiance of reality & of the democratic principles this country was founded upon. I offer no class distinctions.If you are for supporting classes of people instead of every individual then there can be no equality. One class would have advantages others don't. Its not right and (((everyone))) deserves to make a living or just ingest a plant without any interference. This is the problem with voting.
If I may use the inadequate example of two wolves and a sheep voting what is for dinner. The sheep is going to have to give up any rights it had in favor of the mob vote. You could suppose it never had rights then in such a system.
So that is why regrettably voting for this is violating peoples rights and separating them into more classes ,in Colorado you call them outlaws which is insulting and undeserved . Everyone's rights could be respected by just repealing the laws.
So if the sheep was protesting for its rights I don't think it could be argued he was doing anything wrong even if the wolves were upset about it.
Obviously, I support HR 2306.Agreed. I feel its stupid even to have to argue who gets what protections at all or who has to follow any regulations at all. But the law makers over time have violated the law and made new ones which violates our rights in the first place to divide and conquer. I can respect Colorado for what it has done it's a step toward an end, but I think perhaps if other states want to go another way, its their right to. I believe HR 2306 was the right legislation to repeal the federal prohibition and should be supported by everyone no matter what state they live in. That would be a perfect template to unite under.
Thank you for that. I don't know quite why you're so hell bent to vilify me in other ways, however.
You wrongfully assume monopoly via regulation, project from there. Dozens of regulated markets are not monopolistic, from food to cosmetics, autos, alcohol, tobacco, financial services, you name it.
Existing reality denies credibility to your premise & therefore any conclusions drawn from it.
Those people are an extreme minority expressing what the vast majority hold to be a radical & impractical POV.
Feel free. That's entirely optional in CO for the enjoyment of cannabis. Nobody has to risk prison to supply the desires of the populace.
Well then, complain about the situation in your state. That's not the situation in CO at all, nor likely will it ever be.
Standard libertopian boilerplate in defiance of reality & of the democratic principles this country was founded upon. I offer no class distinctions.
If you provide a politically correct term to describe growers who do so outside the law, I'll use it.
So what was the name of your seed company, butwang? And your strains? Please tell. Many of us have extensive seed collections. Maybe some of your work is included?
I mean, you are a breeder by your own statements. Breeders sell seed openly/on the open market...even those who have small ops...I remember other names from the past like Lonestar, jojorizo, (RIP, guys) and that guy you referenced who has such high praise amongst the serious growers, Subcool. Everyone is growing Sub's gear. (Even Vic High...LOL)
After 25 years of growing shitty pot...I KNOW I've grown your wares. What strains are yours again?
What outlets did you sell at?
Strain names?
Oh shit... that M.O. Those retorts. Holy crap, it's REZDOG guys! Now I know why I smell bacon.
Budwang = Rezdong
Especially, the breeders who have been in legal trouble...as I have.
Somebody doesn't understand the word "hypothetical." You can't possibly be dumb enough to misinterpret hypothetical scenarios as literal statements, can you?
so now you aren't a breeder? LOL. What about all of that whining about CO shutting down >you're< operation by not allowing home sales and "breeding"??
I knew asking for solid proof to back your claims would end the discussion from your end...just before you started trying to label me as a troll and back peddle on your words.
Jhhnn: The war in Colorado is far from over, you have only one a battle. Explain this one to me?
http://durangoherald.com/article/20...Renter-finds-federal-aid-marijuana-don’t-mix-