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Vision seeds northern lights and gg#4

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ganjygav

I've decided I'm just going to run with the 2 NL and 1 gg#4. If the other 2 survive I will donate them on to someone local who will take cuts from them. I've topped one of the NLs and bent the other over. Not sure about topping the plant I bent over yet,I think I will just keep tying her over as she grows. I respect people's opinions, but I don't agree about the mg soil being the problem. I'm not being a dick,if I put the 3 cuts from the same plant into the same soil it would effect all 3 the same wouldn't it? Tell me if I'm wrong and I will accept it. These clones were kept in a small takeaway tub for about 8 hrs in a hot car and I think it didn't do them much good. They all looked wrecked at 1st. Only 1 has bounced back and looks,is growing normal now. On the 2 bad cuts the leaves just look a little more yellow every day and even drier. I honestly have no faith in them making it. I will post some more pictures tomorrow
 

John.Snow

Member
From what I've experienced, most of the issues with MG soil happen when the plant is young because the soil is too "hot" (same thing with FFOF, Roots, etc...). Well rooted/older plants are much more capable of handling the large amount of nutrients in the soil and don't get stressed as easily.

As for the results not being uniform, it probably has nothing to do with the soil.

FWIW, I flowered two almost identical cuttings from the same mother. Same medium, same nutrients, grown right next to each other. The first one grew fine and yielded 20g+, while the other was severely stunted and barely yielded 10g. This was in coco, but I'm sure the same thing would've happened in soil.

Do you have any pest issues?
 
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ganjygav

From what I've experienced, most of the issues with MG soil happen when the plant is young because the soil is too "hot" (same thing with FFOF, Roots, etc...). Well rooted/older plants are much more capable of handling the large amount of nutrients in the soil and don't get stressed as easily.

As for the results not being uniform, it probably has nothing to do with the soil.

FWIW, I flowered two almost identical cuttings from the same mother. Same medium, same nutrients, grown right next to each other. The first one grew fine and yielded 20g+, while the other was severely stunted and barely yielded 10g. This was in coco, but I'm sure the same thing would've happened in soil.

Do you have any pest issues?

Not that I'm aware of,me and a buddy went over the cuts when I first received them and see no sign. All the plants were sprayed with mighty wash and I will be starting neem soon. No flys yet anything else I wouldn't have a clue what I was looking for dude
 
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sourpuss

Clones dealt with stress and r prob gonna be fine.... id let em send out new shoots.... u can tell the soils fine with the nl from seed... tells me your clones were not in good shape to begin with.

Let the clones veg cause you got high grade fire guaranteed with gg4 clones... u would prob b kicking yourself when you harvest a third of what you coulda harvested of gg4...
 
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ganjygav

Morning all or greetings for whatever timezone you're in. Few more pics then I'm dropping off with the updates a bit. Will update on Monday morning from now on.


my only surviving and thriving gg4,I will start her training next week. Still letting her settle. Loves the MG soil lol

Nl I've only topped this one so far. Not much side growth on this one.

NL topped and bent over,she's responding well .

top view of the same NL with its lst.
This is my first time using an mh bulb,normally I use duel spec bulbs for flower and veg . I've got to say I've noticed my plants get taller quicker with duel specs but plants look happier under mh. Think I might stick with the separate bulbs.
 
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ganjygav

I always give my cuts a dunk in Floramite. ALWAYS.

I never did think these cuts had bugs. I only searched and sprayed them as I was made paranoid about it lol. I've been lucky with bugs,never had them.... Touch wood
 

M.R.GT

Well-known member
Veteran
Hey GG

Your NL is looking good. Sorry to hear about your other GG. I kinda figured they would pull through??

A buddy who runs GG says she is nute sensitive.

Hope it all works out for you.

Peace
GT
 
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ganjygav

I've been told also she's a light feeder. I will be sure to keep an eye on that for sure. I never get up to the dosage on the bottle anyway so shouldn't be a problem. Cheers GT
 

yts farmer

Well-known member
Veteran
Hey fella looking nice inside, shame about the other 2 gg#4 cuttings didnt pull through for ya but make sure you have her backed up for your future grows.

Have you had the pleasure of smoking any gg#4 yet and if so how is she.

Also hope you get some nice female nl phenos. Grew some sensi seed nl about 13 or 14 years ago for my third grow and got some serious fat couch lock buds.The buds had a strange flavour almost like aniseed which i hated but by the end the flavour grew on me lol.

Had a pack of sagmartha nl#9 about 7 years ago but only got 1 female from the pack and got a shitty pheno .

Peace and good luck with your grow.
 
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ganjygav

Hey fella looking nice inside, shame about the other 2 gg#4 cuttings didnt pull through for ya but make sure you have her backed up for your future grows.

Have you had the pleasure of smoking any gg#4 yet and if so how is she.

Also hope you get some nice female nl phenos. Grew some sensi seed nl about 13 or 14 years ago for my third grow and got some serious fat couch lock buds.The buds had a strange flavour almost like aniseed which i hated but by the end the flavour grew on me lol.

Had a pack of sagmartha nl#9 about 7 years ago but only got 1 female from the pack and got a shitty pheno .

Peace and good luck with your grow.

Cheers dude,nah never smoked gg#4 or NL. I hope I do get at least 2 female nl as they're fem beans lol. Someone else was saying nl tastes piney... Not sure I will like that. I've got a sweet tooth when it comes to tastes
 

yts farmer

Well-known member
Veteran
Yeah my bad the nl would be a piney tasting strain and know what your saying about sweet flavours lol.

Growing the gg4 mustbe sorta like bittersweet, bitter because you cant sample it for another couple of months but sweet because you actually have it.

Must have something about it they got a thread over here with over 17000 replies lol.
 
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ganjygav

Oh yeah I'm buzzing to have the gg#4,still waiting for it to root out its pot. I lifted it yesterday to have a look at root progress and its only just started to touch the side's. Maybe another week and I will pot up,the nl are being potted up later. I am well impressed with one of the NL ,it's gonna be a Bush. I will put some pics up in the morning.
 
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ganjygav

Don't worry I'm passing it on, I'm letting the bloke who taught me to grow take a some cuts from her in a couple of weeks. I don't like growing same strain twice,like pokemon I gotta catch them all
 
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ganjygav

Hi again,
time for weekly update. I've transplanted the 2 NL into final pots now. Still waiting for the gg#4 to root out its starter pot before transplant and then I will start lst on her. They have all had a dose of neem now.

NL plant 1
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Nl plant 2
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Gg#4
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That's all folkes!
 
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ganjygav

Just to mix it up here's some bud shots from my outdoors bubblegum
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yts farmer

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Bubblegums look like there loving the sunshine there mate and are they from vision also?

Nl looks lovely and healthy too any idea how long you'll veg and train her.

Peace.
 
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ganjygav

Nah the bubblegum is from thseeds,we ain't had much sun here for the last 2 weeks. So considering that the buds do look good. I don't really have a plan on how long I will veg for,couldn't tell you how many weeks they have already been growing. I will just know when it's time. I'm the same with flowering, I forget how long a plants been flowering,I have to mark it on calendar. I'm hoping 2 more weeks and they should be ready to flip, I reckon they would have got 6 weeks by then. I'm in a tent so I have to take height in consideration. The NL are awesome,so healthy and vigorous. Stems getting nice and thick. Them 2 NL are the only ones to come out of 10 seeds. I am gonna run another vision strain after Christmas just to see if all theyre seeds are rubbish at germination as the NL was. Cheers for popping in dude.
 
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ganjygav

Well I've stuffed up,snapped the gg#4 in half trying to bend her. Gonna hold off doing more on the NL now and just veg them the way they stand. Can anyone tell me if what's left in the soil will carry on growing ?

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