Vintage Colombian

[red rider]

Germany

Germany

Good Luck from Germany!!!
You are not alone!
Thousends of people around the world are whaching You!!!!

I love Germany man, I was stationed there 80 - 82. The best people and really good times there. Thank you so much for joining in my Colombian journey. I try to take things one step at a time and try not to get too excited but it really is like a dream come true.


red rider

 

[red rider]

Blue skies

Blue skies

I am ok with the location, it was an exceptionally nice day last week when the pictures were taken. The finca sits on a ridge that goes up in altitude going towards Bogota and down going the other way. In a car you quickly go from a temperate climate to a very tropical one in minutes. My finca is right at 2,200 meters and right above the banana tree line. It's a little bit warmer than Bogota but still nice and crisp with lower humidity. However I asked around and it is cloudy there sometimes but always super nice in December and January.

I do like the climate there, I really can't tolerate hot climates. Nice folks live around there, the ones I met anyway. They'er all mystified about the cannabis like it's some big deal but still respectful of it.

We do plan on expending with our pending licensing into other regions I think might be better for cultivation. I really don't know about Putumayo and the job there. Might be able to get it to grow there but I don't see any enthusiasm from the Indians and I don't really want to return there. Too hot and too much jungle there for me, I did like the laid back Indians but can't imagine trying to work with the.

Zipacon like it or not is going to be my home base and the companies headquarters, and I'm cool with it.

More to come.


red rider

 

[therevverend]

Awesome man glad it's all coming together for you. It's been a while since I've checked your thread, last time they were pulling you 5 different ways and you were stressed. Seeing your dream come true has got to make it all worth it.

There's a lot of space in those greenhouses. I've checked out the state sanctioned outdoor grows in eastern Washington. They use hoop houses to run light dep, something you won't have to do. It really hit me, the logistics of running a grow that big. The number one cost and problem is drying and trimming. The area you're growing in looks like it gets pretty wet, getting the stuff dried and processed will be a big hurdle.

I just bought the new Clarke, Watson, McPartland book Hemp Diseases and Pests: Management and Biological Control. I recommend it, cost me $100 but to me it's worth a lot more then that. Great book. I read your attempts at cobbing, sweating, all the old school cure methods. I was just reading a chapter on Post-Harvest Problems, to quote 'Sweat cured
Cannabis (common in Columbia) maintains a 'tradition' of Aspergillus contamination.' Maybe that's what's missing? Reading this book is turning me into a ganja hypochondriac..

 

[red rider]

Awesome man glad it's all coming together for you. It's been a while since I've checked your thread, last time they were pulling you 5 different ways and you were stressed. Seeing your dream come true has got to make it all worth it.

There's a lot of space in those greenhouses. I've checked out the state sanctioned outdoor grows in eastern Washington. They use hoop houses to run light dep, something you won't have to do. It really hit me, the logistics of running a grow that big. The number one cost and problem is drying and trimming. The area you're growing in looks like it gets pretty wet, getting the stuff dried and processed will be a big hurdle.

I just bought the new Clarke, Watson, McPartland book Hemp Diseases and Pests: Management and Biological Control. I recommend it, cost me $100 but to me it's worth a lot more then that. Great book. I read your attempts at cobbing, sweating, all the old school cure methods. I was just reading a chapter on Post-Harvest Problems, to quote 'Sweat cured
Cannabis (common in Columbia) maintains a 'tradition' of Aspergillus contamination.' Maybe that's what's missing? Reading this book is turning me into a ganja hypochondriac..

Greetings, at harvest time I was just going to cut the plants and pile them up outside for a couple weeks then bail them up and stick them on a north bound ship.
Just kidding, thank for your insightful advice as it is muchly appertained. I actually have the book you're referring to however I have not studied it yet. I have been developing a few concepts for after harvest processing. We have the option of climate controlled (indoor) drying and curing and trimming should be good employment for the locals. And although there are "wet" seasons here the humility at the finca is not high (like Putumayo). Fresh frozen live rosin is what I'm thinking would be best for the CBD flowers. Still working things out but my confidence is high even though I've never delt with this many plants.
All advice or ideas are welcome, and thanks again.

red rider

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Everything looks good, red rider. Glad to see things coming together for you.

In my experience pure Colombian sativas are ridiculously easy to trim. Are you going to grow traditional heirloom Colombian sativas?

 

[red rider]

Pure Colombian

Pure Colombian

Everything looks good, red rider. Glad to see things coming together for you.

In my experience pure Colombian sativas are ridiculously easy to trim. Are you going to grow traditional heirloom Colombian sativas?

Thank you very much, to answer your question, yes. I am the grow master and part owner. One greenhouse is already ear marked exclusively for pure Colombian genetics. Grown in the ground with only the native sun and on site made organic nutrients. I have been using EM1 and working with a local microbiologist to incorporate indigenous effective micro organisms that we will use. However the demand is for CBD and that's what the investors are interested in so a lot of my work will involve these plants.
Now I have many varies of seed I've collected here and been given by the National university that are native strains. I can only guess how 'pure" they are but having the ability to grow out thousands is interesting and should find something special. Along with my tourist finca bringing back the original Colombians is my dream.


red rider

 

[oldbootz]

Great to see the progress is coming along. Not long now until its all full of weed

 

[Goodherb]

Old school revival

Old school revival

All icmag members, are happy for you,with you.

For the last 30 plus years,the struggle continued.It's all coming together,red rider growers that had similar experiences as you are no doubt delighted, to see you taken this journey .

Blessings ,Red "Colombia" Rider!

 

[red rider]

I am very thankful to this site and all those whom see my quest. However we have a long way to go although getting two licenses and a couple greenhouses up is inspiring, I'm not getting excited. I'm going to the finca again tomorrow to meet with more people and get set up for our inspection. Lots of this lots of that, it gets boring. I try to remain calm and not get pissed off at the constant bullshit but seems like a lot of action with hit and miss results. Most of it I don't have to deal with but I think we need better structure and organization cause now it's costing big money and much much more will be spent before we are operational. Last week a "friend" of Ruth said he would build our security fence for $10,000 (USD), man and she going to go with it. Luckily Alvaro, my main engineer (formally a taxi driver) caught Ruth before she paid the guy and he got the job done for a quarter of the price. A lot of things I don't want to know about, Ruth knows this and most the time I'm left alone. I'm dying to germ some more Colombian seed but there's a limit to how many plants I can effectively grow in this house and I'm past it already.
I know this is going to be a good story I just hope it goes at least a little like I want it. So far so good.

red rider

 

[therevverend]

When my friend told his lawyer he wanted to get a license and grow cannabis up here, the lawyer's advice was that you'd be an idiot to try it. There's so many hoops and regulations you have to jump through before you make a single penny. The redundant bureaucracy is mind-numbing. But it's a dream come true, that's why my friend did it and stuck with it. He's had to make so many compromises from his original ideal, to break even not make a profit. Now it's a simple stripped down operation, churning out as many name clones as possible.

It might have been different if my health had allowed me to run his show. I wouldn't have made all the obvious mistakes, his inexperience cost him. I don't feel sorry for him though, he's a businessman first. Doesn't have the same outlook you or I would have, sticking to our principles. The bottom line is that he's growing nice stuff and making a profit. That's not my dream but it's enough for a lot of other people.

There's a lot of strange problems that come up when you have a liquor control board running the show. One thing you might run into, even producing CBD. The state treats the entire plant, stems, roots leaves, as a drug. So it all must be weighed, photographed, collected, and destroyed in the county incinerator. So instead of growing normal 12 foot tall ganja plants my buddy does light dep, grows little 5 foot tall buds on a stick.

I've heard that it's the same thing in China which is a hemp producing country. They consider the hemp used to produce CBD, even though it contains hardly any THC and is the same stuff they use for their textile industry, as 'drug'. So all the stems and leaves must be collected and incinerated. This is driving the various CBD countries to look for higher CBD strains to minimize the waste.

Greetings, at harvest time I was just going to cut the plants and pile them up outside for a couple weeks then bail them up and stick them on a north bound ship.

Ha ha just like the good old days! I was aiming my comment more at the people trying sweating and burying type techniques at home, I figure you'd be treating your stuff as carefully as possible after harvest. Not that I want to discourage people from the sweating and fermenting, just be careful there's a lot of dangerous little buggers out there. The book also mentions a 17 year old kid who buried his stuff, almost died from the infection. I'm dealing with this unholy nightmare right now, infecting my plants.

So mold is on my mind!

Last week a "friend" of Ruth said he would build our security fence for $10,000 (USD)

Glad you didn't pay that! Everyone's ideas about what profits would be like were far too optimistic. Investors and workers think it's easy money and think they're getting a big piece of the pie. It hasn't happened. Get used to being a hard-ass cheapskate now, you'll regret it later if you don't. The depressing part up here is that all the growers have been backstabbing and undercutting each other, even selling below cost to drive the smaller guys with small bank accounts under.

I'm glad you're being realistic about the CBD part, growing it to pay the bills. We all want to see the real Columbian but it's going to be the commercial part of the grow that can get you going down that path, keep you out of the red.

 

[Drewsif]

Awesome man glad it's all coming together for you. It's been a while since I've checked your thread, last time they were pulling you 5 different ways and you were stressed. Seeing your dream come true has got to make it all worth it.

There's a lot of space in those greenhouses. I've checked out the state sanctioned outdoor grows in eastern Washington. They use hoop houses to run light dep, something you won't have to do. It really hit me, the logistics of running a grow that big. The number one cost and problem is drying and trimming. The area you're growing in looks like it gets pretty wet, getting the stuff dried and processed will be a big hurdle.

I just bought the new Clarke, Watson, McPartland book Hemp Diseases and Pests: Management and Biological Control. I recommend it, cost me $100 but to me it's worth a lot more then that. Great book. I read your attempts at cobbing, sweating, all the old school cure methods. I was just reading a chapter on Post-Harvest Problems, to quote 'Sweat cured
Cannabis (common in Columbia) maintains a 'tradition' of Aspergillus contamination.' Maybe that's what's missing? Reading this book is turning me into a ganja hypochondriac..

Get your money back. Those frauds writing books still? The labs are curing Cannabis of all the diseases someone spread through new strains, not treatments. Anyone fucking with current strains is fighting a well funded battle.

Ask a Columbian where their banana diseases came from. From the people developing resistant bananas..
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4/20 was an inside job!
Investigate 4/20!

 

[ThaiBliss]

Red - I've come out of the closet as a Colombian ganja lover:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8688281&postcount=4434



ThaiBliss

 

[Limeygreen]

Colombian somehow keeps coming up on top.

 

[red rider]

Colombia's finest

Colombia's finest

Thank you Thai, you rock man. Still on hold here as we wait for final licensing. As I calmly wait I've been growing through a few Colombian varieties I've collected. I can't say much but I like it.

2,800mts no supplemental light feed rain water and sunlight Colombian


red rider

 

[KITCHA]

Living the dream Red, Look forward hearing bout what your liking mate! Im guessing thats a Red Snake?!

 

[red rider]

Mangobiche X Bangi Haze

Mangobiche X Bangi Haze

Living the dream Red, Look forward hearing bout what your liking mate! Im guessing thats a Red Snake?!

That would be a very good guess, but this plant is a cross I made earlier this year. Last December I received some "mangobiche" seeds from a friend that teaches at the national university here in Bogota. I was going to grow them out at our finca but the chemist guy that use to work with us germed them all (in December). So out of 20 or so seeds ten survived and I found 8 to be full on hermis, two true females and no males. I have a beautiful Bangi Haze from the masters at ACE so I pollinated the two mangobiche females. This is one of the offspring.

The flowers on the plant smell like a crayon box, incense type and the dried flowers have an almost chocolate flavor. I haven't tried cured buds cause it's just dry now but the Mangobiche mother after a couple month cure is on the road I'm looking for. Uplifting, euphoric hit that is calming yet stimulating like good Colombian of yesteryear. The new cross has a much louder taste and smell and is stronger but not so much as to make me tired or sleepy. Everyone that smells it goes crazy and can't stop smelling (fingers). I'm happy with it but I have many un named Colombian I want to grow but at the finca. My idea at this point and agreed upon is focusing on the native Colombians, I don't care if it takes 6 months to grow a plant. Big meeting with the money people last week and I got them onboard with all my ideas and concepts so we are meeting at the finca this Wednesday. Lots of things going on but I'm not stressing nothing cause it lessens my calm persona, these people are easily excited and I have to show them that calm thoughts are the way to work. The weed helps.

red rider

 

[red rider]

Inch by inch

Inch by inch

Had the meeting at the finca yesterday and now we are licensed but still need to pass another inspection to begin production. Still a lot of work but progress is being made.

There's a lot of construction to do but not my worry, I've got the plants ready to move there.


red rider

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hey Red,

Looking good man! The gal in the heavy coat tells me you are up high enough in altitude. I like it.

To explain my earlier post a little, I crossed two Haze hybrids and got what I think is a purple Colombian pheno. Haze originally was 3 different Colombians. It's early and sure looks nice. It's got that sweet honey, earthy, woody aroma that reminds me of old school Colombo. Got some floral, fruity, and spiciness to it also. I hope you don't mind, cause here is another picture:

LumboBliss

 

[Beanzy]

That would be a very good guess, but this plant is a cross I made earlier this year. Last December I received some "mangobiche" seeds from a friend that teaches at the national university here in Bogota. I was going to grow them out at our finca but the chemist guy that use to work with us germed them all (in December). So out of 20 or so seeds ten survived and I found 8 to be full on hermis, two true females and no males. I have a beautiful Bangi Haze from the masters at ACE so I pollinated the two mangobiche females. This is one of the offspring.

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The flowers on the plant smell like a crayon box, incense type and the dried flowers have an almost chocolate flavor. I haven't tried cured buds cause it's just dry now but the Mangobiche mother after a couple month cure is on the road I'm looking for. Uplifting, euphoric hit that is calming yet stimulating like good Colombian of yesteryear. The new cross has a much louder taste and smell and is stronger but not so much as to make me tired or sleepy. Everyone that smells it goes crazy and can't stop smelling (fingers). I'm happy with it but I have many un named Colombian I want to grow but at the finca. My idea at this point and agreed upon is focusing on the native Colombians, I don't care if it takes 6 months to grow a plant. Big meeting with the money people last week and I got them onboard with all my ideas and concepts

red rider

I am proud of you Red Ryder, those d native Red and gold strains I got in Florida from 74-77 are still benchmarks of perfection. I have family in Bogota and have sampled herb in Quindio, Bucaramanga, Bogota and have never found anything close. I am glad you picked up the torch.

 

[red rider]

Vintage Colombian

Hey Red,

Looking good man! The gal in the heavy coat tells me you are up high enough in altitude. I like it.

To explain my earlier post a little, I crossed two Haze hybrids and got what I think is a purple Colombian pheno. Haze originally was 3 different Colombians. It's early and sure looks nice. It's got that sweet honey, earthy, woody aroma that reminds me of old school Colombo. Got some floral, fruity, and spiciness to it also. I hope you don't mind, cause here is another picture:
View Image

LumboBliss

Thai what a beautiful plant and picture! I know you remember the lumbo, that smell, the taste and incredible effect. I'm working on it, slow but sure.
While I am waiting for a mangobiche to finish flowering (seed planted in April, no lights just outside) I realized none of the Colombian I had in the 70s early 80s was sinsemilla. The import always was pollinated, some batches more than others. My current plant has been flowering for 4.5 5 months and still going strong. That got me thinking that maybe "sinsemilla" cultivation is not an effective method here. I've open pollinated the same mangobiche and the seeds were ready in 6 weeks or so. To me the effect of the 6 week seeded flower is equal to the 22+ week seedless flower.
Just a thought

red rider