Vintage Colombian

[bigherb]

It really seems to me I'm chasing my tail trying to find the same Colombian cannabis I knew from the past in the USA. When I first came to Colombia in 02 it was here and easy to get (Cartagena, Bogota). But even then it wasn't the top shelf Colombian I remembered but had the smell and taste. Then it slowly disappeared, although it's been ten years since I been to the coast, I haven't found it here in Bogota for years. The "Corinto" I recently obtained is definitely not crippy but not really "Lumbo" ish either. I'm thinking even if I can grow the old genetics even here, I don't think it will be the same as the exported (transported) stuff we got 40 years ago. Have to see what happens at the finca if we can ever get started.

red rider

A shame to here these strains of yesteryear are becoming rare

I have a friend in itagui who says Punto Rojo is her favorite , it’s preferred over crippi and available to her but she is of the younger generation soo can’t make a comparison to the old . Another friend from pereira who says the old Lumbos are still prevalent in her area . I believe it is like anything in life it’s who you know

I’d love to see you grow CBG Punto Rojo

I send my best wishes

1luvbigherb

 

[TychoMonolyth]

A shame to here these strains of yesteryear are becoming rare

I have a friend in itagui who says Punto Rojo is her favorite , it’s preferred over crippi and available to her but she is of the younger generation soo can’t make a comparison to the old . Another friend from pereira who says the old Lumbos are still prevalent in her area . I believe it is like anything in life it’s who you know

I’d love to see you grow CBG Punto Rojo

I send my best wishes

1luvbigherb

I haven't heard of the crippi strain since I was in Ecuador. lol

 

[red rider]

I need to clarify, the genetics are here, I have some and grow them. The point i'm trying to make is that I can't replicate (so far) the cure they put on the export back in the day to get that exact taste. I have very good examples of the classic genetics but even being grown here (none of the seeds have are from Bogota) the taste is not the same cause I air cure it. Not to say they don't taste good but no the same.

red rider

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I need to clarify, the genetics are here, I have some and grow them. The point i'm trying to make is that I can't replicate (so far) the cure they put on the export back in the day to get that exact taste. I have very good examples of the classic genetics but even being grown here (none of the seeds have are from Bogota) the taste is not the same cause I air cure it. Not to say they don't taste good but no the same.

red rider

Don't expect perfectly trimmed and dried/cured bud to be or taste the same.

Dry a bit, don't cure, press, wrap and store so it can ferment for a few months. That's the only way.

Malawi Style Cob Curing.

 

[bigherb]

I haven't heard of the crippi strain since I was in Ecuador. lol

It’s not a strain in Colombia. It’s a slang for high grade or hydro


1luvbigherb

 

[CosmicCharlie]

Yeah,

I was gonna say if you want that old school taste you will need to brick it up.

I’m pretty sure that they sun dried it for a few days then just bricked it up and it then sat around for who knows how long until the Gringos with the planes would pick up the bales lol.

Anyways, Tangwena’s Cob Cure should be kinda close but I’d also experiment with making little bricks maybe with different drying times or some dried in the sun some not, let some sit longer than others when done. Who knows how old some of that stuff we got was...

 

[TychoMonolyth]

It’s not a strain in Colombia. It’s a slang for high grade or hydro


1luvbigherb

In Ecuador, it's anything imported. Local is Chola. I had seeds but none germinated. I have to visit again.

 

[Donald Mallard]

hey red ,
im with the guys on agreeing a certain amount of slight fermentation is required to get that old school flavor ,
ive played around with the process here and come pretty close to what i think was the same as back in the day ,
storing the erb before its fully dry , ie stems are not snapping , but close ,
in a cool place , a month or so ,
they drying it fully and packing it away again for a few months in a cool place ,
it changed the high a fair bit too , some became quite narcotic , heavy stoned ...

some of it went a nice golden/yellow color too ...

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Yeah,

I was gonna say if you want that old school taste you will need to brick it up.

I’m pretty sure that they sun dried it for a few days then just bricked it up and it then sat around for who knows how long until the Gringos with the planes would pick up the bales lol.

Anyways, Tangwena’s Cob Cure should be kinda close but I’d also experiment with making little bricks maybe with different drying times or some dried in the sun some not, let some sit longer than others when done. Who knows how old some of that stuff we got was...

Another thing they did was to ring the plant (take the bark off around the trunk) and let it die standing. The sun would bleach some of the chlorophyll out of it, then it was bricked. Colombian Gold anyone?

Last year I was busy harvesting and had a few plants in my yard hidden behind a shed. There was a small plant left standing. I stripped the buds off and put them on a rack on my back deck until I could get to them after dinner. I totally forgot about them. For a few weeks! One day I was walking by and noticed them sitting in the corner. They had dried, rained on, dried again, rained on again... When I checked they were nice and dry, perfectly shaped buds, and the most beautiful golden color I've ever seen. I should have kept a couple to test but I was in a rush and I just thru them on the lawn for the mower. So the sun can definitely turn them gold.

 

[red rider]

Thanks so much for the suggestions, however over the years I've tried all the obvious. I really like the cob cure but to me it just doesn't have the taste. I'll see what I can do at my finca but I am alone here in my quest for the vintage Colombian. No one I know here has any idea Colombian was once the best export. I'm not too concerned about it, I have a lot of projects going on that are interesting. What I really don't like is dealing with these over educated cannabis newbies, it has come to the point where I don't want to meet anyone new. I got so pissed of about it I told them I would not return to Puntomayo and grow there. It was a big discussion but the bottom line is I work where and how I want. Everything is chill now so we press forward.

red rider

 

[red rider]

In Bogota crippy/crippi is not a strain and it's not high grade, maybe it was a few years ago but now it's just pressed indica hybrid grown outdoor in the valle de cauca. It is very easy to get here in the city, I know and occasionally use a delivery service that brings it right to your door(illegal). Price is about 2,000 COP per gram and really it's a great deal If you're a light smoker crippy is a good value cause it tastes ok and it's strong. But for me, I smoke all day and the crippy has a very quick tolerance (not to mention a dull boring high) and before noon smoking it only makes me feel tired. If someone came to Bogota without knowing someone if you're lucky you can find crippy (expect to pay more).

red rider

 

[troutman]

over educated cannabis newbies

Those I call Terp Tards.

Myself, I'm breeding a new Colombian Gold hybrid outdoors and selecting F2 plants now.

Not easy playing with jungle plants in the North.

 

[red rider]

Colombian Creepy

Colombian Creepy

Here is some crippy pictures that are a few years old. Crippy is always the same but always different. Different smells, different tastes but the same boring dull effect, strong but flat. The crippy is better than the "regs" in the sense that crippy is seedless and strong, where the regs are seeded and weak.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=504617&stc=1&d=1567683208

The crippy isn't bad when it's all you have and it makes good dry sift and rosin (kind of). To have it delivered to my door it's 2,000 COP a gram but if I go get (different source) it's half price or even less.

red rider

 

[red rider]

Greenhouse

Greenhouse

Progress is being made and in a forward motion. The first two greenhouses are up and we are getting our first inspection for the remaining licenses.

I'm going to go and camp out there for a few days just to see what it's like at night. Very optimistic at this point.

red rider

 

['Boogieman']

Looking awesome

 

[ctg]

Congrats red looking good

 

[wutwut]

no way that's very nice i hope you are happy! waiting for final pictures hehe.

 

[red rider]

Thanks so much everyone, although I'm happy with the progress, still a lot to do. There will be a total of 5 greenhouses with the two that are up now only for propagation and the other 3 production. But first we have an inspection with the tow greenhouses and go from there once licensed. And we still have to build my house, laboratory, warehouses, office and service buildings as well as a security fence and office. It's a big operation but I'm in 100% control of the plants and processing. I hope I like it, I got in this company at the right time I think. So I'm excited but I can't optimistically see any plants being started before next year. I'm not involving myself in the construction and legalities so I just keep growing a few plants at my house in Bogota with just a few trips to see the progress. Yesterday Ruth comes over (unannounced) with 4 of her nieces, totally disrupted my day. They loved the plants almost as much as I liked having their company. All five of these women incredibly beautiful and charming, acting like they'ed never seen a plant. One of the nieces lives in Las Vegas and she smokes and was telling me about the legal weed up there. Then came the phone pictures, I hate that but she was so hot I suffered through. Soon as them came they took off, Ruth promising me she would return and we would go buy soil (something I requested a week ago). Never came back but it's cool as long as I get some soil soon. Going back to the finca next week and hopefully see some work on my house (I got to have a cool pad to live there).

red rider

 

[laredo]

Thanks so much everyone,

red rider

Good Luck from Germany!!!
You are not alone!
Thousends of people around the world are whaching You!!!!

 

[ThaiBliss]

Red,

I like seeing those stark blue skies above the greenhouses. Looking good!

ThaiBliss