Vintage Colombian

[Miraculous Meds]

hey cg, tell ur boy to keep it in his pants. or go with cheech's take on penny pussy. If u can find it any cheaper, fuuuuk it!

Seriously though, that punta rojo male has some super thin leaves. bout the thinnest ive seen. have u guys seen any thinner leaf varieties?

 

[red rider]

Let the good times roll

Let the good times roll

hey cg, tell ur boy to keep it in his pants. or go with cheech's take on penny pussy. If u can find it any cheaper, fuuuuk it!

Seriously though, that punta rojo male has some super thin leaves. bout the thinnest ive seen. have u guys seen any thinner leaf varieties?

Yes those are most defiantly the thinnest leaves I ever recall seeing. Punto Rojo is queen of the classic Colombians and in 40 years of smoking I’ve found no equal.

Colombian NLD Coastal Green 06

What’s more unique about that plant (other than the rareness of the Punto Rojo) is that it’s a male! I’ve never found a male Colombian in any of the seeds I’ve grown.

High altitude Colombian Sativa

Very lucky ladies indeed.


red rider

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day RR

Have noticed the crippy has headless trichs ?
I`ve seen that type of resin on broad leaf Central Asian strains .

Best wishes for canna freedom in Colombia .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[idiit]

Seriously though, that punta rojo male has some super thin leaves. bout the thinnest ive seen. have u guys seen any thinner leaf varieties?

^^ my sole cbg punto rojo looking pretty unhappy atm. think the seedling mix ( step 3) I transplanted he/she into was too hot. she's perking up. only one to germ so far ( 1). paper towels/distilled water for seed germination to show tap root and then into 2). no fert seedling mix and ^ this one was put into 3).starter seedling mix after she got about this big and kinda stunted some). ^ this ones in her/his second container/ potting mix now. got the rest of my punto rojo beans in primo no fert potting mix for seedlings after a two day paper towel soak. didn't wait for tap roots to emerge this go. hope for a few more beans to pop this way.
dubi recommends pre soak and straight into no fert potting mix or the like before tap root emerges so i'm trying it out round 2.


I've noticed it does have a super nld look. showing purple on leaf edges but camera didn't pick up.

I might of had a water ph problem as a few other plants looked stressed at the same time I transplanted this one from 2). no fert potting mix into 3).low fert veg potting mix.

 

[red rider]

G`day RR

Have noticed the crippy has headless trichs ?
I`ve seen that type of resin on broad leaf Central Asian strains .

Best wishes for canna freedom in Colombia .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Love your accent Elmer Bud and welcome! Yes I saw that in the pictures of the crippy. Lots of hair like things and very few "clear" trics. But this crippy is I think a WLD (imported) or most certainly a hybrid. It is very dense and sticky, it's dry but kind of "chewy" making me have to cut it up rather than grind or crumble. This is what Colombian has evolved to. Cannabis is a cash crop, now and then, times change the internet came along and now everybody see what everyone else is growing. Gone are traditional cultivation and curing Technics as the best selling bud is green and shiny not gold and seedy. This ignorance in the consumer was a result of the cultivators natural desire to increase profit with modern hybrids designed for speed, yield and potency. Now take away prohibition and I think things will return to their natural order. Tropical grown NLD will return better than ever before. I'm here to see to it.

red rider

 

[red rider]

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^^ my sole cbg punto rojo looking pretty unhappy atm. think the seedling mix ( step 3) I transplanted he/she into was too hot. she's perking up. only one to germ so far ( 1). paper towels/distilled water for seed germination to show tap root and then into 2). no fert seedling mix and ^ this one was put into 3).starter seedling mix after she got about this big and kinda stunted some). ^ this ones in her/his second container/ potting mix now. got the rest of my punto rojo beans in primo no fert potting mix for seedlings after a two day paper towel soak. didn't wait for tap roots to emerge this go. hope for a few more beans to pop this way.
dubi recommends pre soak and straight into no fert potting mix or the like before tap root emerges so i'm trying it out round 2.


I've noticed it does have a super nld look. showing purple on leaf edges but camera didn't pick up.

I might of had a water ph problem as a few other plants looked stressed at the same time I transplanted this one from 2). no fert potting mix into 3).low fert veg potting mix.

That plant has the same leaves as Charlies male, thin and long (just like my favorite women) pencil like. Maybe your will be a male, I think what ever it comes out to be you will be happy. Thanks for posting idiit and please let us know how things develop.


red rider

 

[amanda88]

I would like to see the results of this venture, for sale in the seedbay, perhaps as a way to finance Icmag ...? just a thought as there is very little original Columbian out here?

I would most likely buy some beans?

 

[Elmer Bud]

Love your accent Elmer Bud and welcome! Yes I saw that in the pictures of the crippy. Lots of hair like things and very few "clear" trics. But this crippy is I think a WLD (imported) or most certainly a hybrid. It is very dense and sticky, it's dry but kind of "chewy" making me have to cut it up rather than grind or crumble. This is what Colombian has evolved to. Cannabis is a cash crop, now and then, times change the internet came along and now everybody see what everyone else is growing. Gone are traditional cultivation and curing Technics as the best selling bud is green and shiny not gold and seedy. This ignorance in the consumer was a result of the cultivators natural desire to increase profit with modern hybrids designed for speed, yield and potency. Now take away prohibition and I think things will return to their natural order. Tropical grown NLD will return better than ever before. I'm here to see to it.

red rider

G`day RR

Oh that was not my 1st visit to your thread .
contrary ... I read the thread whenever it is updated .
Learnt a trick or two here as well . he he .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[red rider]

G`day RR

Oh that was not my 1st visit to your thread .
contrary ... I read the thread whenever it is updated .
Learnt a trick or two here as well . he he .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Hey Elmer, man yes I know you come in before and so sorry I meant write "welcome back". Your contributions are always appreciated and welcome. I don't want to go off half cocked but stay tuned as we are about to take it up a notch down here shortly. And thank you my friend!

red rider

 

[idiit]

I would most likely buy some beans?

^ cannabiogen has their own seed site selling "Colombia punto rojo" pictured earlier. great service imo.https://www.cannabiogen.com/en/productos.php?banco=1&pageNum_rsProductos=1

redrider is gaining great strides towards achieving his goal of making the south american landraces seeds stocks available to us all. he'll update when the time is right.

all right red, I've got a question for you prefaced by context comment.

I've been posting on some threads that imo the future is straight from seed, organically grown landrace based genetics. I've endorsed landrace/adam hybrids as being part of that forecast.

you have been posting crippy. they are really beautiful. imo these are landrace/adam indica dom hybrids. no one else is posting pics. of crippy but you that I've run across.

the dead giveaway that these are outdoor grown is the slightly darker hues than you would find in indoor grown weed for the most part. nevil posted way back in the middle '80's that south American gangsta types were buying shit loads of his seed stock. I think South America growers has been practicing the landrace/adam indica dom hybrids as well as adam poly sat/adam indica dom hybrids for a very long time.

what's your take on the genetic makeup and grow methods of these crippy buds you've been buying and posting pics. of?

 

[red rider]

The crippa

The crippa

^ cannabiogen has their own seed site selling "Colombia punto rojo" pictured earlier. great service imo.https://www.cannabiogen.com/en/productos.php?banco=1&pageNum_rsProductos=1

redrider is gaining great strides towards achieving his goal of making the south american landraces seeds stocks available to us all. he'll update when the time is right.

all right red, I've got a question for you prefaced by context comment.

I've been posting on some threads that imo the future is straight from seed, organically grown landrace based genetics. I've endorsed landrace/adam hybrids as being part of that forecast.

you have been posting crippy. they are really beautiful. imo these are landrace/adam indica dom hybrids. no one else is posting pics. of crippy but you that I've run across.

the dead giveaway that these are outdoor grown is the slightly darker hues than you would find in indoor grown weed for the most part. nevil posted way back in the middle '80's that south American gangsta types were buying shit loads of his seed stock. I think South America growers has been practicing the landrace/adam indica dom hybrids as well as adam poly sat/adam indica dom hybrids for a very long time.

what's your take on the genetic makeup and grow methods of these crippy buds you've been buying and posting pics. of?

Yes idiit I think the Colombians have been growing this "hybrid" for over 20 years. My experience with it here in Bogota started here recently within the past few years. Before that I only heard of it and I was still getting very good seeded "regs" up until last year. Colombians love crippy and most have either forgotten about or never had the great old strains. To most people now days the crippy is the weed you want, big fat aromatic, sticky outdoor buds, it is good. However I get a tolerance to most of it before I finish a bowl and after that it's only a mild buzz. I know I smoke a lot, I always have but most crippy gets boring really quick. A good reg takes more and more time to get me "high" and I don't burn out quickly. I got some new crippy (it is never the same) and this stuff smells very strong unburnt. I can't identify the smell but it is a common weed (imported) smell. To be honest I'm not really interested in the crippy but it's what I have now and I feel I should show everyone what is being cultivated here in Colombia now. Very soon however I'm going to be growing my own Colombian and nobody will call it regular (or crippy). I don't want to jinx myself by saying more but I can say I'm not dreaming any more.

red rider

 

[ThaiBliss]

Colombians love crippy and most have either forgotten about or never had the great old strains.

This is why preservation is so important. Eventually, when people smoke a well preserved 1950s to 1970s Colombian, it will be so different and unique, it might start a trend in the other direction towards cerebral weed that gets you high instead of stoned.

Red - Keep up the good work,

ThaiBliss

 

[idiit]

^ 1). I wouldn't totally give up on landrace based hybrids if you want to offer bud product. you start with great landrace stock and do some crosses. the ppl decide. you must listen to the customers in order to stay in biz. if a market develops for pure landrace bud product and extracts then and only then will pure landrace buds and extracts become economically viable.

2). there is a growing demand for pure landraces seed stock. they are the ultimate breeding parents imo and if this is where your heart is then I would follow your heart . the seed biz will be the hardware store/ lumberyard in this new "gold rush". only one out of thousands of miners ( think growers) made money. how many hardware stores and bars went belly up? not many. at 2,000 seeds/oz ( guesstimate) even 50 cents/seed can rack up more than enough profit to "fuel the dream".

 

[red rider]

The Rider VS the Crppa

The Rider VS the Crppa

Here are some examples of a couple plants I grew here in Bogota (known by Colombians as "the freezer") and some modern Colombian crippy (from Cali).

This is Nirvana's Northern lights and haze (06) and was the best effect of all the imported seeds I've grown. Very light sensitive plant but a fantastic "balanced" effect.

This is my cross, my Santa Marta gold female had a brief affair with a thick stemmed smelly Nirvana Afghan. The offspring produced excellent flowers and beautiful faster flowering plants. Mind numbing effect.

Next we have a very special pure Santa Marta gold that I grew out in sunny (joking) Bogota. The seed came from traditionally cured mountain bud grown in the Santa Marta (6). The effect from the flowers had almost no ceiling and although not "racy" it is a clear motivating high like no other. Potent but very kind to the mind and body leaving clean. This is one of my targets.

And finally the current "high grade" Colombian. Grown from hybrid seed in the lush lawless mountains of Cauca comes this potent "type". Seedless aromatic and potent, this stuff means business. The smell indicates potency and the hit proves it, she comes on like a slap in the face and just as quick. This particular crippy had a very heavy narcotic effect that sticks to you like glue. Nice but not for day time or drinking. Some crippa can be very good effect wise but this sample was the narcotic type.

red rider

 

[red rider]

This is why preservation is so important. Eventually, when people smoke a well preserved 1950s to 1970s Colombian, it will be so different and unique, it might start a trend in the other direction towards cerebral weed that gets you high instead of stoned.

ThaiBliss

This is my core objective and thank you.


red rider

 

[red rider]

2). there is a growing demand for pure landraces seed stock. they are the ultimate breeding parents imo and if this is where your heart is then I would follow your heart . the seed biz will be the hardware store/ lumberyard in this new "gold rush". only one out of thousands of miners ( think growers) made money. how many hardware stores and bars went belly up? not many. at 2,000 seeds/oz ( guesstimate) even 50 cents/seed can rack up more than enough profit to "fuel the dream".[/QUOTE]

Would you please stop giving me ideas! Just kidding man I'm considering all possibilities from a realist perspective in order to achieve the optimal outcome. I really can't say much as you can see but my objective is to grow and reproduce,preserve and resurrect the Colombians that we love. As well as some other projects that I don't even want to think about yet. Great things are happening, I feel like history is being made.
Updates coming

red rider

 

[red rider]

Just a short note, up to 20 grams of cannabis, 5 grams of concentrates and even 1 gram of cocaine are LEGAL 100% even for tourist in Colombia now. Just a thought...

red rider

 

[amanda88]

one can feel the icmag membership packing their bags with that snippet of info Red.....? lol

 

[purple_man]

dang red, sounds like a hell of a party! when did the law change happen??? please keep them nice stories n pix comming

blessss

 

[bombadil.360]

could really smoke that bud over the aguila roja cafe, and drink a tinto, or two