Vertical Systems

[TheBudFather]

Hi fellas... i bought an Arena-Plantage a few years back... ill post a pic of the model i have.... its a 320 plant site tower! with 4x 600w cooltubes... I'm planning on a Lemon Skunk, Chocolope, Buddhas Bluecheese, Great white shark fieasco very soon! all seeds are in the fridge waiting to rocknroll... Need to do some serious cleaning up tho before my room is available... im planning on a Grow diary here... but not sure how hot it is... there will be a few plants visable in photos... ill check with mods!

 

[Mr.Jones]

Hi fellas... i bought an Arena-Plantage a few years back... ill post a pic of the model i have.... its a 320 plant site tower! with 4x 600w cooltubes... I'm planning on a Lemon Skunk, Chocolope, Buddhas Bluecheese, Great white shark fieasco very soon! all seeds are in the fridge waiting to rocknroll... Need to do some serious cleaning up tho before my room is available... im planning on a Grow diary here... but not sure how hot it is... there will be a few plants visable in photos... ill check with mods!

i would love to see that one - its pretty much a coli right?

 

[TheBudFather]

It's a dripper system... diff from the coli i think!
It also has rod's that extend from underneath each plant site...for use as a plant rest when buds get heavy!

 

[Mr.Jones]

Here's my coli. Haven't used it in a while now. I'm thinking I should fire her up though.

you sure should fire that thing up! thats a treasure in garage!

It's a dripper system... diff from the coli i think!
It also has rod's that extend from underneath each plant site...for use as a plant rest when buds get heavy!

nice, but i think the coli can be drip fed as well (not sure though) - you should report in the vertical section about it!

 

[seedbreeder101]

both celliseum and the hanging garden looks awesome

oin on a budget so i guess ill make an DIY bot surely with inspiration from existing systems

ive been reading a lot here and other forums about vertical grows and ive spoken to several growers that speaks highly of them so im for sure going to go vertical sometime this winter

 

[river rat01]

the coli is an overpriced pos.
i have built a prototype sys out of pvc that will out perform it, only i havent had the funds to finish it yet.

i cant give too many details on it. i have invented many things, but this one, i will patent.

the coli has a flaw, and obviously no one has realized it but me.
my sys will DOUBLE the colis yeild.
but i can tell you this, it will be MUCH more reasonable than $3000.
i have built a lot of systems, but this is my magnum opus.

 

[VeticalGrowBot]

i have it on good authority that the hydrogons are about to be discounted about 33%

If my buddy was telling the truth i might be getting one of these systems.

 

[Teeg420]

yea ill agree the coli is definitely overpriced and a pain in the ass to work in.

but please do tell what is the coli's major downfall?

 

[river rat01]

i'll give you a hint,
the coli only lights ONE side of the plants.

 

[Teeg420]

yea but it lights up the whole side of the plant the bottom buds get at much as light as the the tops do.

Are you recommending that useing pots and turning them every so often in order to light up all sides would be more efficient? Definitely interested to hear your ideas.

 

[Teeg420]

I will say the coli does work, ran a 4kw flat gareden yielded 2 lbs, ran 2kw vertical in the coli and pulled 2 lbs. It was a low yielding strain damn purple strains.

Had a friend run his coli same strain pulled a little over 3 lbs with 3kw, he just did a 8kw flat pulled a little over 5.

 

[odin_]

i think the coli sucks for the price, but yeah right at you doubling the yield...

 

[odin_]

I will say the coli does work, ran a 4kw flat gareden yielded 2 lbs, ran 2kw vertical in the coli and pulled 2 lbs. It was a low yielding strain damn purple strains.

Had a friend run his coli same strain pulled a little over 3 lbs with 3kw, he just did a 8kw flat pulled a little over 5.

damn i couldnt run a strain if i couldnt get at least a pound a light

 

[ICMag1]

I think making a DIY vert system might be way easier than a lot of people make it out to be. I mean think about how easy it is to hang a light down in the center of a room with exhaust attached, and then grow your plants in a stadium set up. That's basically all you need right there. Sometimes when I think about it, the best vert set up would have to be a semi-sphere that is dug into the ground. The lid goes on top to seal it perfectly and the light+exhaust goes in the center. Might be a bitch to tend the plants though!

I have some plans sketched out on paper for an adjustable (in terms of distance from central light) aero/nft system that would be easy as hell to do. You just need to angle the plants and basically make a poor-man's stadium out of the typical aero DIY set up. Nothing special like 2 maybe 3 horizontal rows of root chambers. Run 2 rez's and basically instead of the root chambers jutting straight out LENGTHWISE, you flip those root chambers to be right on top of the res - or on top of a support structure that is right close to the res - and you run them SIDEWAYS. Put your light in the middle of the room and exhaust it. That's all there is to it, just seal the room and run CO2 as you would normally. Plants are still easy to get to, and if you find some plastic props for the stems, they'll have no trouble growing at a 45 degree angle. Put preemptive hooks on the ceiling just in case they need some additional support from ties. Plants grow towards the center of the room, lighting efficiency is damn near as maximized as you can get it without building a fuggin crazy cylinder - which btw would just make it harder on you to design the aero/nft to work with it. And how much lighting efficiency would you lose in a stadium set up vs a cylinder? Probably not a whole lot. I don't know the math behind lighting efficiency but I would imagine that the marginal rate of return starts diminishing soon after you decide to not be a tard and just put your light in the center of the room. As long as the room isn't too big and you use reflective covering on the walls, you can't be losing too much vs a cylinder right?

And you could put the damn res + support for the root chambers on both sides of the poor-man's stadium on wheels or something so you could always move the sides back away from the light if the plants were growing too "long" aka tall. Just as long as the flowering room is big enough to allow for some slack on both sides of the stadium.

vertical is probably overkill for anything but the flower room though.

 

[river rat01]

hey teeg
you could turn the plants 180 degrees every day or you could put lights on the BACKSIDE

it just makes no sense to light only ONE side of a plant.

i always see pics of plants in the coli, and the backside of the plants (against the wall) are dark!
i mean DUH!
just imagen what the yeild would be if there were lights on the backside!
its like when they invented it, they didnt follow through to complete the idea.

 

[odin_]

hey teeg
you could turn the plants 180 degrees every day or you could put lights on the BACKSIDE

it just makes no sense to light only ONE side of a plant.

i always see pics of plants in the coli, and the backside of the plants (against the wall) are dark!
i mean DUH!
just imagen what the yeild would be if there were lights on the backside!
its like when they invented it, they didnt follow through to complete the idea.

the problem with your theory of doubling the colis yield is that the plants can only use so much light
just because you double the light, it doesnt mean that you will double your yield...

 

[odin_]

I think making a DIY vert system might be way easier than a lot of people make it out to be. I mean think about how easy it is to hang a light down in the center of a room with exhaust attached, and then grow your plants in a stadium set up. That's basically all you need right there...

there are some on here

 

[TheBudFather]

My vertical system has 4 x 600w and 320 plant sites.... my plants don't grow straight up, they lean in towards the light. the light bulbs are from floor to ceiling and cover every single inch of the Arena, every bulb is spreading light in every direction,... very intense light in a small circumference.... this method acts as a perfect sea of green... the 'only lighting one side of the plant' is rubbish, this is definitely not the case in my system, as the plant heads are all pointing in towards the lights, and the plants adjust their leaves to point in the right direction. just the same as any other SOG grow. I yeild avg 1oz per plant...proberly a lil bit more that the Coli, as i am able to give my plants a lil more veg time, because each plant site has a prop to hold the heavy plants up... Arena-plantage is amazing in action.... i just wish preparing and taking 320 clones and potting them a week later was alot easier lol

 

[river rat01]

hey budfather, got any pics of your sys?

 

[greenthumb2]

would love to see pics myself