Unofficial Coco Coir Growers Thread

[Guest]

Has anyone else seen this fungal growth on their coco?

About a week after I bought a bag of bcuzz coco I noticed a moldy growth beginning to form. Looked like mold, smelled like mold so I tossed out the bag thinking it was no good. The bag was kept in my room with a 30-40% humidity.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

gdawg - coco IS so different in so many ways the growth rate, the smells and all
u will like it no doubt - and then weh u bring ut coco out doors - PEOPLE will never have seen buds like that.

im our local growshop they literally wanted to buy our moms of the SSH x PTK directly thinking its just genetics - but coco makes really SOLID and HUGE buds. dont shooce too solid indicas since mould can easy become a problem if u dont have soem kind of roof for them.

it grew so quick in coco we were amazed. too. sunlight and givign all the nutes at the right ph - and nature will work for u

nandro if it smelled bad id thorw it too

 

[gaiusmarius]

if you are talking about a white grey powdery looking subsance on the coco, then don't worry about it, it's just a sign that you have loads of beneficials in your coco. that's actually a good sign, hehe.

 

[nandro]

nandro if it smelled bad id thorw it too

hehehe stoned ass!!! wasn't me, but yeah - I'd throw it out, too!!

Peace,
Nandro

 

[Guest]

Wow Coco crew, big things goin on.
Been outa town awhile on fishing trips but I see things havent slowed at all around here.
Wicked new coco forums, cheers to everyone involved in bringing the wealth of info to one point.

Well my latest White Russian grow is completed managed 0.66g/W. Could maybe push it a bit higher with a few more pots in there but with the mobility and automation I achieved I'm quite happy. Also the finished product is ever so tasty, 14-20 days flush, spicy and packed full of thc.
Heres a few shots for yas and thanks again ICMAG for our new Coco Forum




Finished product with cure.

 

[gaiusmarius]

congrats on the new harvest twenty47red-i

enjoy the fruits of your labor

 

[20kw dreams]

pbp coco probs

pbp coco probs

Hey everybody

What's up gaius? Hows it goin bro, long time no see.

Hey, I'm having some problems w/ my new coco setup. I tried using PBP grow and Cal-mag instead of just getting Coco nutes. I've been using PBP line a while and it's always done me right until now.

anyways, trust me when I say it's not a Mg def, although it looks like one. It was 5ml/gal calmag + PBP grow to 1.6 EC, ph of 5.9 to 6.1. Ph was at 5.2 for a few days when my meter died on me, but then I pickked it up to 6.0 4 days ago, and it's only getting worse. I diluted the rez slightly, then added in another2ml/gal Calmag and 2ml/gal Sweet, which has a good amount of Mg in it too, at which point the problem progressed faster then anytime prior. So, I drained and refilled the rez with RO water, and set it at 1.1 EC.

You guys have any ideas?

 

[-VT-]

I have had success with PBP "hydro organic" in coco

I have had success with PBP "hydro organic" in coco

Not sure if you're using the soil formula, or the hydro forumula

I like this post

he (Jinxie) posted a few times in this thread also....

Biggest thing I got from that post is that Ca is more important in coco.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Hey everybody

What's up gaius? Hows it goin bro, long time no see.

Hey, I'm having some problems w/ my new coco setup. I tried using PBP grow and Cal-mag instead of just getting Coco nutes. I've been using PBP line a while and it's always done me right until now.

Hi 20kw dreams,

nice to hear from you man, long time no see.

when you say, it's done you right till now, does that mean in another medium it was working and now in coco you are getting this problem? or has it worked in previous harvests on coco without this problem?

anyways, trust me when I say it's not a Mg def, although it looks like one. It was 5ml/gal calmag + PBP grow to 1.6 EC, ph of 5.9 to 6.1. Ph was at 5.2 for a few days when my meter died on me, but then I pickked it up to 6.0 4 days ago, and it's only getting worse. I diluted the rez slightly, then added in another2ml/gal Calmag and 2ml/gal Sweet, which has a good amount of Mg in it too, at which point the problem progressed faster then anytime prior. So, I drained and refilled the rez with RO water, and set it at 1.1 EC.

You guys have any ideas?

i will not ask you if you sprayed the plants with the lights on, lol. but i will ask if you were spraying them with leaf spry a month or so ago? i have seen this happen to old leaves that were sprayed in their younger days. it's when you don't bother to spray water to rinse the leaves the day after using a leaf spray. i'm not saying it has to be that, but it's possible. if that makes no sense cause you didn't spray. then i would suggest emptying your new tank to one side and doing a huge flush, with plain water. do you have a ec meter? measure the ec of the run off, if it is way up there. then keep flushing pure ph corrected tap water through the medium till the run off has the same ec as the nutrient solution you are feeding with. then refill the tank and give them the normal ec and in a day or two you should notice things getting better. only measure the run off once the medium is evenly soaked and the water is gushing back. else the readings will be misleading.

good growings

 

[Guest]

count me in, just planted a cascadia and a burmese pure f2, 100% coco to start

 

[gaiusmarius]

nice one UserName, i look forward to watchiing her grow. have started a thread? link?

 

[Bongojaz]

hey 20kw, as gas said, that looks like a nute on the leaf prob. it also looks like overwatering and/or a ph prob. i see curled under/dropping leaves. how much/often are you feeding. it is possible to overwater in coco, especially straight coco, if you're not careful. also, i wouldn't flush unless i had to. as long as you fed them at the correct ppm, and allowed required runoff, there's no need to check what comes out. just my 2 cents....

 

[hard_mind]

Quick question i got for u guys... All this reading about coco has gotten me very interested in using this as a medium... Now, i have recently started 7 seeds in small pots containing soil... Would it be possible to switch to coco when they are ready for their next transplant? Or should i finish these babies in soil...and think about using coco on the next run? tnx n peace n chill!!

 

[Bongojaz]

hey hardmind, i've done that a couple times, no problem.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Hey Bongojaz,

glad to see you paid attention to canna's coco growing advice, lol

they do indeed say that measuring run off is no help. they also tell you to use 4ml per lt. do you do that? the thing about the run off is, that it will not give you good readings if you are watering like in earth. but if you saturate your medium every time so you get quite some run off, then you readings become interesting. i have been using this medium for many many years and i can tell you for a fact, that they are wrong when they tell you that you can totally ignore the run off. when running to waste you can ignore it to a certain point.

but when you start seeing symptoms of problems, in your plants, then the moment has come to pay attention to everything, including the run off after a good watering session. if the run off reads over 2.0 and you are feeding only 1.6 or 1.8, then it's time to flush that salt the hell out of the medium. i have seen plants come to a stand still enough times due to run off reaching 2.5 and shit. only to see them come right back and start growing again after a good flush and a new tank of nutrient solution after the flush.

but if your plants are growing fast and looking healthy, then there is indeed no reason to measure run off. also if you measure it when the first dribble of water comes back, you will not get a good reading. the medium needs to be soaked with a fast run off gushing out, before you measure the ec. otherwise it will cause confusion. which is what canna should have explained. lol

 

[Bongojaz]

yo gaius, that's interesting, i think i'll try it. right now i'm doing a side by side with canna and house and garden. so far, i still like the canna. i think i may end up changing my mind though. this is my first time using h&g so it's new to me. new is always a bad thing, right??? one thing i have noticed, you use less of the h&g to get the same ppm as canna. right there, money saved. not that nute cost is a big issue. unless you're using advanced!!! 5 tsp. is equal to 8 of canna. i'm also using the two nutes on diff. strains so that makes a diff. too.
peace

 

[Guest]

good info gaius, i'm glad i've got you guys to turn to when i fuck this up no thread yet for the new stuff, i don't have a camera at the moment. i'm planting the 2 mississippi mud that just popped, that's enough seedlings for now.

 

[gaiusmarius]

you are correct about the canna nutes, they are not cheap all things considered, not too expensive either when compared with other nutes of equal quality. but like you say, there are other options. i'm liking the sound and look of hesi products, i have incorporated their powerzym into my nute plan instead of cannazym. i find using canna coco a+b as the main nutes is such a breeze that i don't mind if they are not the cheapest, specially as the basic A+B isn't that expensive, it's the cannazym and bioboost where the money is made, lol. also the rhizotonic is not cheap, but i value it anyway. when you think what it brings you in the way of healthy yields, ten it's well worth it.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

gaius - is it cheaper than atazyme?

agree on the rhizotonic - worth every penny.

 

[Mo Budz]

Hey gaiusmarius, I would just like 2 thank you for all the good info you supplied me with earlier in this thred. Here is the link to my previous post to refresh if you forgot. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=23140&page=26&pp=15&highlight=ph

So far I am loving the new coco setup, and have been running it as a top fed recirculating system. I am in the first week of flowering right now, but I can definentally say that they are growing very fast. I decided to stick with that coarse coco, and am currently giving the Monkey Juice from AN a run with it. I am also going to be using some other addatives including their Hammerhead P/K 9/18. Just thought I'd stop by and share my coco on this site, and will post some more pics as things progress. This is my first time in coco (soil grower for years), and I have very little experiences in hydro, so hopefully I dont screw this up . Here are some pics of veg, with a cheap ($20 dollar) recirculating drip setup made out of a oil drain. It held 2 gallons of water, and worked great for their 9 days of veg. Also are some pics of them starting out in bloom. Oh ya, the roots are fk'n amazing too.