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Blues x Cheese will be available asoon as i finish flowing some blues clones,,,i should have had some Blues x Cheese in feb but a friend of mine croped early without telling me so i lost the lot..

ive still not flowered any blues clones myself "yet" ,,,,,,ive just been handing it out to my loacal friends,,, but when i do flower some myself il make a load again

whatever happens il have some ready for October...

in october ill b pm,ing u like mad!!!!!!will u be selling the seeds??
 

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my cheese was reversed using STS ,,no problems whatsoever!!,,,,it was so easy, i was teaching people how to do it when i had a full bottle,,its a shame i cant get any more STS,,,unfortunatly i dont know how to mix it myself, a uni friend made it for me last time and hes adiment he wont do it again...next time i do a reversal im gona have to use CS

i bet you guys sprayed the nodes??,,,an i bet your PPM was too low???,,,,,,how long did you leave the generator runnin for??,,,,did you uses distiled water in a glass ???,,,what voltage did you use,,an was it 99.999 FINE silver????,,,,,

your best off using a very small plant and just spraying the leafs and stems,,if you spray it beffore flower as a medium cutting [less than a foot tall] and only spray upuntill the point when you wouldnt normaly remove fan leafs in flower,,i think you would have better results,,ive never used CS myself but i made some for a friend an i tried to teach him how to use it, but he never started spraying,,,

any ideas how long of a shelf life CS has,,,im thinkin its a very long time??
 
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Same thing happened when i reversed the Cheese with CS - male plant with empty sacks.

yer cheese wont . but we thought as psychosis is a cross she mite . but we guessed wrong . here a cpl of pics of the male psychosis . go to #2273 in this thread .
 

indifferent

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my cheese was reversed using STS ,,no problems whatsoever!!,,,,it was so easy, i was teaching people how to do it when i had a full bottle,,its a shame i cant get any more STS,,,unfortunatly i dont know how to mix it myself, a uni friend made it for me last time and hes adiment he wont do it again...next time i do a reversal im gona have to use CS

i bet you guys sprayed the nodes??,,,an i bet your PPM was too low???,,,,,,how long did you leave the generator runnin for??,,,,did you uses distiled water in a glass ???,,,what voltage did you use,,an was it 99.999 FINE silver????,,,,,

your best off using a very small plant and just spraying the leafs and stems,,if you spray it beffore flower as a medium cutting [less than a foot tall] and only spray upuntill the point when you wouldnt normaly remove fan leafs in flower,,i think you would have better results,,ive never used CS myself but i made some for a friend an i tried to teach him how to use it, but he never started spraying,,,

any ideas how long of a shelf life CS has,,,im thinkin its a very long time??

I did it twice, first time I started spraying two weeks into flower and I got a regular Cheese female covered in nanners, she emitted no pollen tho. Second time I sprayed from day 1 of flower and she grew as a male, no female flowers, and no pollen again.

I sprayed every day and soaked the whole plant till it was running off the leaves.

I made the CS in a glass jar using distilled water and 99.9% silver wire i got from the jewellers, it was as soft as solder almost, indicating high purity, silver alloys are much tougher. The voltage isn't important, the higher the voltage, the quicker the electrolysis process and the quicker it 'brews' the key is the amperage, I used the recommended 600mA the first time, 1000mA the second time. The amperage determines the size of the silver particles.

My PPMs were probably very high indeed as the spray bottle ended up with an inner coating of silver and the plant's leaves had silver residue on them.

I have the recipe to make STS, not read it for ages though. It's way more powerful than CS but also a little dangerous to use i hear.

CS should keep forever in theory as it's just tiny particles of silver floating in distilled water.
 

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Colloidal Silver is a solution in which microscopic, electrically charged particles of Silver are in suspension, due to their positive charges repelling each other. These are ions or monovalent silver, the smallest particle of silver possible. A true colloid is very stable and has a long shelf life (years), while poorly produced product has few free ions and many clumps or crystals of silver or silver compounds which have a very short shelf life (the silver settles out), large size of particles and thus very limited bio-availability or effectiveness.

From http://www.healthvision2020.com/msg1.htm
 
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my cheese was reversed using STS ,,no problems whatsoever!!,,,,it was so easy, i was teaching people how to do it when i had a full bottle,,its a shame i cant get any more STS,,,unfortunatly i dont know how to mix it myself, a uni friend made it for me last time and hes adiment he wont do it again...next time i do a reversal im gona have to use CS

i bet you guys sprayed the nodes??,,,an i bet your PPM was too low???,,,,,,how long did you leave the generator runnin for??,,,,did you uses distiled water in a glass ???,,,what voltage did you use,,an was it 99.999 FINE silver????,,,,,

your best off using a very small plant and just spraying the leafs and stems,,if you spray it beffore flower as a medium cutting [less than a foot tall] and only spray upuntill the point when you wouldnt normaly remove fan leafs in flower,,i think you would have better results,,ive never used CS myself but i made some for a friend an i tried to teach him how to use it, but he never started spraying,,,

any ideas how long of a shelf life CS has,,,im thinkin its a very long time??

rick i still beleve exodus cheese wont revise . i mean come on if it did all the seedbanks would be doing s1 exodus cheese seeds . look at gh sc they used bbc hgf crossed exodus . theres not 1 seed co who sells s1 exodus cheese . maybe the cut u sprayed wasnt exodus . i have the cut what u have and to me its nothing like the clone i had years back it smells very sweet unlike my old 1 .

cs . it was brewed for 24hours 999.9 silver , distilled water in glass jar ppm was 67 (tested with a tds meter ) the whole plant was sprayed for 2 weeks plus before going 12/12 and kept spraying for 3 weeks after that . the psychosis plant is male as u can see in the pics i posted a cpl of pages back . most pics ive see of sprayed plants they still get alot of bud then the pods this plant was more pods than bud . as u can see in the photos .
 
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my cheese was reversed using STS ,,no problems whatsoever!!,,,,it was so easy, i was teaching people how to do it when i had a full bottle,,its a shame i cant get any more STS,,,unfortunatly i dont know how to mix it myself, a uni friend made it for me last time and hes adiment he wont do it again...next time i do a reversal im gona have to use CS

i bet you guys sprayed the nodes??,,,an i bet your PPM was too low???,,,,,,how long did you leave the generator runnin for??,,,,did you uses distiled water in a glass ???,,,what voltage did you use,,an was it 99.999 FINE silver????,,,,,

your best off using a very small plant and just spraying the leafs and stems,,if you spray it beffore flower as a medium cutting [less than a foot tall] and only spray upuntill the point when you wouldnt normaly remove fan leafs in flower,,i think you would have better results,,ive never used CS myself but i made some for a friend an i tried to teach him how to use it, but he never started spraying,,,

any ideas how long of a shelf life CS has,,,im thinkin its a very long time??

rick i still beleve exodus cheese wont revise . i mean come on if it did all the seedbanks would be doing s1 exodus cheese seeds . look at gh sc they used bbc hgf crossed exodus . theres not 1 seed co who sells s1 exodus cheese . maybe the cut u sprayed wasnt exodus . i have the cut what u have and to me its nothing like the clone i had years back it smells very sweet unlike my old 1 .

cs . it was brewed for 24hours 999.9 silver , distilled water in glass jar ppm was 67 (tested with a tds meter ) the whole plant was sprayed for 2 weeks plus before going 12/12 and kept spraying for 3 weeks after that . the psychosis plant is male as u can see in the pics i posted a cpl of pages back . most pics ive see of sprayed plants they still get alot of bud then the pods this plant was more pods than bud . as u can see in the photos .

o as for shelf life the cs gets weaker n weaker the longer u leave it so it best to brew new every week .
 

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i need help mixing some STS again indi:),,,,,if you achive it please gime a shout,,,,im parranoid about ordering the bits,,[il swap you an RVK for it:)],,if i try this CS and its not doing the job im gona need that STS again

cheezey:),,,,i think your CS sounds good bro!!,,,i gota give you credit!!,,,,an im amazed you have had problems,,, you sound like you know what you doing!!,,,,i think your problems are that firstly you need to spray mutch earlyer when the clone is small,,,i dont think CS has the power to deal with big plants like STS,,,,,just start off by lightly missing clones every 4-5 days,,,when you flip to flower just AVOID THE NODES,, if you avoid the nodes i think you will find them polen sacks aint sterile:),,,,,just aslong as its fine silver and you saw the whole thing bubbleing when it was generating in distiled water, then it should be good to go!!
 

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I noticed that no-one does Exodus Cheese S1s either, but there are loads of Skunk #1 fems available.

I can get a verified Exodus cut if there is any doubt over the origins. BTW.

I will dig out the STS recipe and send it to ya mate.

Gotta nip out for a bit, will get on it when I get back.
 

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no1 sells cheese S1 because they grow sutch crappy plants,,,,honestly,,,i couldnt give a clone away,,an the veg is slow too,,trust me, its easy to reverse but dificult to work with

if you want to boost the effect of your Colloidal Silver guys,,,,,all you do is mix it with Acetylsalicylic Acid (Aspirin) and aply it through the roots or the leaves...but the concentration need is dependant on the plant's genotype.
 

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It's a pheno of SSH so has all the same characteristics as SSH. It's best grown bushy to get a good yield if you need to keep plant numbers low. It is suited for a SOG too, but will get quite tall.

Thanks dude :yes: The Amnesia Hy-pro clone that grows about the UK is from a 'sativa' type plant. (i n i smoked the indica one before cloning it..lol) According to Zwiep at Hy-Pro,, Amnesia is a Neville's Haze (male) cross.

Hope this helps
 

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I noticed that no-one does Exodus Cheese S1s either, but there are loads of Skunk #1 fems available.


That's because it's NOT possible to stress/inhibit Cheese IMO.

Other 'Skunk#1' and "suspect Cheese" clones stress / can be inhibited easy... and will throw nanas till the cows come home.

If ppl could produce Exodus Cheese S1's ,, they would have done a few years back now! Either made some serious $$$$ or given them away raggo ,, just like ppl did the clone!!

Hope this helps
 
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ive never grown another cheese clone other than mine,,,id like to try 1 now just to see

ive notitced with your clone it smells very sweet around week 7 . were the old clone what i was gifted a cpl of yrs ago from a grower on here who got it from exodus smell full on musky at week 7 . also that clone yeilds pritty good too .maybe pm ojd he has it still i think .
 

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Very interesting indeed.

And on the cheese front. I would just like to add, that after growing cheese for years and smoking quite a lot of yours buds...... ER's cheese cut kills it. DEAD. Whether its his growing, nutes, I duno, but his has that smell and taste that I remember from the day but more importantly that banging hit that brings a sweat under the eye and across the brow. No other cheese that I have smoked in a long time has done this to me.

All the posibilities are endless.
 

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thanks herb:),,,im not sure if you saw the best of it but im sure ive had it even better than that...it might be the CannaAqua+budlink+boost i keep bangin on about but i duno,,,its allways good,,,

doc an the LGA cut is very very similar to mine!!!,,,,,its so similar id need to grow them side by side,,,i think mine has the same smell but docs is a slightly nicer cut,,
 
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Very interesting indeed.

And on the cheese front. I would just like to add, that after growing cheese for years and smoking quite a lot of yours buds...... ER's cheese cut kills it. DEAD. Whether its his growing, nutes, I duno, but his has that smell and taste that I remember from the day but more importantly that banging hit that brings a sweat under the eye and across the brow. No other cheese that I have smoked in a long time has done this to me.

All the posibilities are endless.

funny that herb u said the cheese what u tryed from me was the strongest u have eva smoked .... and the best cheese u have tryed .ill did up the smoke report u did. if i can find it .
 

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no1 sells cheese S1 because they grow sutch crappy plants,,,,honestly,,,i couldnt give a clone away,,an the veg is slow too,,trust me, its easy to reverse but dificult to work with

if you want to boost the effect of your Colloidal Silver guys,,,,,all you do is mix it with Acetylsalicylic Acid (Aspirin) and aply it through the roots or the leaves...but the concentration need is dependant on the plant's genotype.

Good tip on the aspirin, been interested in the effects of salicylic acid on MJ plants for a while now, it is thought to trigger the stress response without the actual stress, it is thought to be an ingredient in many of the expensive bloom boosters.

Thanks dude :yes: The Amnesia Hy-pro clone that grows about the UK is from a 'sativa' type plant. (i n i smoked the indica one before cloning it..lol) According to Zwiep at Hy-Pro,, Amnesia is a Neville's Haze (male) cross.

There is only one Amnesia cut and it's a pheno of SSH, when Zwiep first brought the bud to the Dam to sell, he went to see a friend of mine and the story he told then was that he had bought a bag of SSH in the RLD GHS shop and found a seed in it, germed it and got what is now called Amnesia. The reason he came clean with the truth was the friend took a pipe hit and knew right away it was SSH, after all, he has seen and handled more Hazes than anyone bar Neville and Shanti. It grows like a sativa and the Dutch growers take it as early as 9 weeks, but it needs a little longer to be just right. It annoys me when people make up new stories to cover up the fact what they are selling is in fact someone else's strain and it doesn't fly with experts, Zwiep took the weed to the resident Haze expert so stories wouldn't fly there and he had to tell the truth.

That's because it's NOT possible to stress/inhibit Cheese IMO.

Other 'Skunk#1' and "suspect Cheese" clones stress / can be inhibited easy... and will throw nanas till the cows come home.

If ppl could produce Exodus Cheese S1's ,, they would have done a few years back now! Either made some serious $$$$ or given them away raggo ,, just like ppl did the clone!!

Cheese I had came from Luton, not naming names, but it's 100% verified Exodus Cheese, it definitely does revert under CS, but doesn't produce pollen, that will be why no-one has made and sold Cheese S1s.

ive never grown another cheese clone other than mine,,,id like to try 1 now just to see

I'll get you the one I had rick, then there is no doubt, I'll explain in private how there is no doubt.

ive notitced with your clone it smells very sweet around week 7 . were the old clone what i was gifted a cpl of yrs ago from a grower on here who got it from exodus smell full on musky at week 7 . also that clone yeilds pritty good too .maybe pm ojd he has it still i think .

ojd has the same one I had, and musky is what it is, nothing sweet in it in late flower, some people have mentioned watermelon tastes and sweet smells from Cheese, well, no, it's dry, musky, stale sweat.

I shall sort this out once and for all, I shall gather up the Exodus Cheese I used to have, rick's Cheese, another Cheese that is a berry smell/taste, Psychosis, Blues and The Smelly One and do a side-by-side then we can all see what is what. Well, I already know what is what - they're a bunch of very similar skunks, but be nice to establish once and for all what is what with these cuts.
 

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Very interesting indeed.

And on the cheese front. I would just like to add, that after growing cheese for years and smoking quite a lot of yours buds...... ER's cheese cut kills it. DEAD. Whether its his growing, nutes, I duno, but his has that smell and taste that I remember from the day but more importantly that banging hit that brings a sweat under the eye and across the brow. No other cheese that I have smoked in a long time has done this to me.

All the posibilities are endless.

Hmm, very interesting, the Exodus Cheese I had doesn't have that level of potency at all, it's typical skunk #1 strength. Sounds more and more like rick has something else. Maybe what rick has is this 'Suicide Cheese' as Ganja Baba named it, that cut smells like the Exodus, looks like the Exodus but yields more and is much more potent.

thanks herb:),,,im not sure if you saw the best of it but im sure ive had it even better than that...it might be the CannaAqua+budlink+boost i keep bangin on about but i duno,,,its allways good,,,

doc an the LGA cut is very very similar to mine!!!,,,,,its so similar id need to grow them side by side,,,i think mine has the same smell but docs is a slightly nicer cut,,

Maybe the LGA one is the Exodus and rick's is a different one, if I could see and smoke em all, I am sure I could pick out which was the Exodus.

You have to wonder how all this confusion came about, up until 2005, there was only one Cheese as far as I know, all these others seem to have appeared in recent times.
 
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