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U.K cheese brightside cut ?

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This is something I constantly say,,, i named Brightsides Cheese,,, before then it was just called cheese,,, if someone thinks they have had the Brightside clone it's pretty unlikely as look at the 3ffort we are pi putting into finding it,, the only way to label anything as the Brightside clone is for one of the boys who knew bri and had the clone,,, if you didn't know bri don't try an tag a clone with his name,,, simple
 

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If he wants it labeling and doesn't think it's the exodus then just send it to one of Brightsides old boys and then we can start trying to help,, otherwise it can't be labled as Brightsides cut,, if it's amazing just enjoy it,, if you want a the Brightside name get it verified by someone who knew b,, simple
 

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Good tip mate with the lemon juice will give it a try for sure.
I lightly spray everyday with mild nutrient solution wipe out the propagator of excess moisture never fails. :tiphat:

This trick is something I personally developed and am extremely proud of,,,please report back on its level of viability as I think this might become standard practice in future for alot of people,,, it makes a radical difference and I will never go back to not adding co2 into propagators,, the effect is dramatic!!


This trick has shown a huge difference in my clones,,, more than I ever thought possible,,,, it's noticeable immediately if you add it half way through the job,,

Please please gain some data on this and soon il do a thread on it,,, i think it's too important no to do,, please relay your experience,, thank you for paying attention

I have considered development of a co2 device specifically for propagators similar to the nitrousoxid crackers people fill balloons with,, but lemon juice or vinigar with baking soda is too dam easy
 

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Alot of weed is too strong for me,, but some makes me ill,, Brightsides clone was one of them clones with downsides ,,,, it's a liability and makes me ill,,, but the smell and ability to lingerie is on the tongue is unparalleled,,, (I do believe I don't grow Brightsides to my personal taste),, all the sk1 crosses,, blues and even jahs are generally too strong for me to function ,,

If you want to completely fuk yourself it's Brightsides,, i might even say its a stronger weed in effect than the rest,, i guess some people like that destructive type of effect

Brightsides actually made me itch so much when pruning it looked like I was having an allergic reaction,,,

Brightsides cut has traits I respect alot,,, it just comes with consequences for me personally,, but some people don't experience the consequences,,, to create the level I'm talking about I need to grow it myself,,, i can't actually buy the level of bud I grow,,

I'm going to try and grow this 2020 in 2 different Ways,, 1 is oldschool how I used to do it,,, and the other is the with the shit I've learnt since 08,,,so hopefully the 2nd method yealds a style I prefer,, sweeter and with a less disturbing effect
 
Alot of weed is too strong for me,, but some makes me ill,, Brightsides clone was one of them clones with downsides ,,,, it's a liability and makes me ill,,, but the smell and ability to lingerie is on the tongue is unparalleled,,, (I do believe I don't grow Brightsides to my personal taste),, all the sk1 crosses,, blues and even jahs are generally too strong for me to function ,,

If you want to completely fuk yourself it's Brightsides,, i might even say its a stronger weed in effect than the rest,, i guess some people like that destructive type of effect

Brightsides actually made me itch so much when pruning it looked like I was having an allergic reaction,,,

Brightsides cut has traits I respect alot,,, it just comes with consequences for me personally,, but some people don't experience the consequences,,, to create the level I'm talking about I need to grow it myself,,, i can't actually buy the level of bud I grow,,

I'm going to try and grow this 2020 in 2 different Ways,, 1 is oldschool how I used to do it,,, and the other is the with the shit I've learnt since 08,,,so hopefully the 2nd method yealds a style I prefer,, sweeter and with a less disturbing effect

It may not be functional weed to certain people but the negative attachment to brightside is the legacy that it will create instead of a man who passed that around that people really enjoy,

With trainwreck i cant say watch that strain its dangerous but i can say that stuff doesnt agree with me when very terpy as i think its terpinolene that destroys me as i can handle high thc delta 9 strains but just not over a certain % of certain terps. Brightside used to smoke weed drier did he not?

Its not the strains that is a liability its us

The appetite stimulating effects outweighs some of the 20 min heavy onset for me, due to terps but duration of high down to % of delta 9, Add that with the couchlock effect and you have superb medicine for certain people but i would say the onset can be intense for certain people

For you to say you are going to grow it 2 different ways to try and get the desired sweeter effect that you get in jahs/windows/mr cheese tells me you think they are all the same cut but growing differently. To have such a dramatic difference says something like phenotypic plasticity which i dont think is happening.

I like nft as i think its a great water efficient way to grow but rastas would call that fuckery and not good for you because of force bottle feeding and chemical pk enhancers that does have a totally different chemotype to no till knft natural fed ferments which might balance the effect for you

Has anyone earthboxed and cleaned up the cheese as tissue culture is rife now.

I found blues very moreish to the point where i had the most happy buzz and could smoke joint after joint but cheese can be half a joint with cerebral effect with sedation where psychosis had not as much cerebral but was a heavier sedation.

Theres nothing worse than growing weed and smoking cheese in a country where it illegal talk about overthinking and not being able to enjoy the high , the brittish tabloids would have a field day with the brightside SKUNK but we all know correlation is not causation.

Dont let the brightiside be known as the DARKSIDE CUT and 2020 cut jst adds more confusion and hype to a cut thats got demonised.

Given to brightside as Cheeze!

Maybe Ac gold pheno of sk1 thats very cerebral.

Is aniseed in the brightside and did franco really s1 it as i thought it wasnt viable especially for commercial seed production so must be very viable.
 

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I don't agree at all,,, in fact I think the account you are using looks like a sock puppet, but fuk it,,

Point me to a peer reviewed rasta paper and il start any sort of fukkery you can get reviewed by a peer,, till then I think il read ready my scientific journals and leave spirit weed to jah and yourself,, you seem to miss miss my point a dont wish to over and over things you can simply re read,, please do

I don't think they are the same cut,,i don't think My personal opinion will effect it badly at all,, it was not me who started this hunt, it's just up to me to finish it (hopefully) ,, and I'm makin the decision to call it 2020 till I know wtf it is,,,I've had this level of miss communication lately with someone else,, any chance you know me,, (but don't as much as you think)

i think one is more difficult to dial in too,, i believe Brightsides is actually not so easy to nail in terms of flavour,,, an it's a challenging grow to make its flavour sweeter and more "rounded"

Il make my decision on what to name it when I've smoked it,, till then read my messages again,,,, giving it a new sufix shows its been validated,, giving it a unique hash tag helps us track it,,, use your melon
 

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For me I found the problems come wen your constantly smoking the original cheese..it starts making you ratty..especially those days as no one wanted anything else so thats all ther was..I think if thers other stuf about and breaks are taken from it..its beautiful.
 

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Maybe Ac gold pheno of sk1 thats very cerebral.

Is aniseed in the brightside and did franco really s1 it as i thought it wasnt viable especially for commercial seed production so must be very viable.
I think UK Cheese is an Afghan/Columbian hybrid pheno as that is what is shown in the S1 seeds (GHS Exodus Cheese)
..there wasn't many Mexican AG looks on the 10 plants of GHS Exodus i grew some years ago.
 

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For me I found the problems come wen your constantly smoking the original cheese..it starts making you ratty..especially those days as no one wanted anything else so thats all ther was..I think if thers other stuf about and breaks are taken from it..its beautiful.

This is a Really really good point,, with a lil tweeting on the nutes 0and some lighter bud as a day smoke,, yeh I agree,, Brightsides has the ability to sit on that top top top shelf,,

But as you said,, without the variation it has a negative effect but when smoked at the right moment it will probably hit all the high notes,, i just hope my new approach to growing will bring that slight sweetness out,,, i do think its possible to tweek the flavour and I've seen it nailed once,, i hope to nail it properly for once (provided this is it)
 

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Have you tried to grow the cut in organic living soil as you might find with it trading sugars at night with being not forced fed with bottled nutes might even out the profile enough for you to tolerate it is all i am saying

There is no rasta peer reviewed study just that exodus crew grew organic with no fuckery so the cheeZe that brightside got and going by the way people say genetic drift is happening then it going from hydro from Cf to organic at haZ to nft in ricks then no harm potting her in organic soil and watch her change.

I am saying this as people can be sensitive to hydro pharma grade nutes,(steroids for plants) fact!. So if i was having an adverse reaction to a profile in a cut that i force feed it then i would change my nutes and style to see.

The deficiencies it can carry and being a low yeilder sounds like a viroid rather than a mutagen like phenotypic plasticity.

Has anyone at all earthboxed it which could be enough to clean it and restore natural profile without having to tissue culture it.

Is there any aniseed in brightside profile at all?, ghs exodus s1s do and wondering if its a recessive that shows possible hindu kush or durban poison genes hidden in exodus cheeZe.

I am not against nft grown weed as i am smoking some right now, nft weed can be flushed clean but if i was having an adverse reaction to a profile then i would try it in soil and might not be as in ur face but more balanced.

Without giving it a new suffix why not call it what brightside got given it as is CHEEZE n that will how you will know its the original exodus through brightside. Always puzzled me why it didnt stay that way.

Will leave the spirit weed where it belongs right with the exodus crew and all the other jah lovers @ haZ manor who spread the cheeZe in the past.

Big fan of the passion you have for this plant rick so i hope you get it dialled in the way you want it to.

Back in 03 I developed a foolproof way of growing,, well my mate Martin did actually,, i just made it a standardisation,, the method was called "PH Yella",,, nobody knew why it was beating all other methods,, it took me all these years to upgrade on the old pH Yella system,,, the canna aqua feeding schedule coupled with nft was the key to outperforming everyone but I was fuked of i knew why,, prior I was a living soil sorta guy

Nowadays my growing method is all about high brix content,,genes switching on enzymes and enzyme bio synthesis,,

The biostims like cytokines and aminos,, i was originally a pupil of soma,, then I was a duch greenhouse grower,, but when the Dutch outlawed fungicide they needed to review the biostims,, i realised canna had been sneeking these biostims into there feeding schedule for years and the boost is basically fulviv,, humic and aminos,, it's not got triclodol in there contrary to popular belief,,

I also like to shock plants just before harvest nowadays,, again to increase brix and make more things antioxidants etc,,
 

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I agree,, the name cheese with a Z helps us,, not a bad idea,, i have actually seen clones labled as Brightsides Cheese,, this is why I propose the name change,, it helps people know its gone through our hands and if it's unique and hash tagged we can track it and enter a new era of weed genetics work where we use search functionality to map genetics we deal with

I will ask everyone here what they think is best once I've found out what it is,,, i personally think a slight name change and a hashtag will really help people and us in the future,, one thing I know for sure is once I verify it myself,, i will enjoy labeling it as the Brightside clone,, we can debate the semantics after
 

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I am currently collecting as many ligit clones as I can,, soon I will put everything into tissue-culture (real apical meristem) and start a non profit clone bank,,

I'm prepared to take a major dump on this problem soon as some money I've been waiting for drops,, fuk this,, never again
 

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I have followed your grows for years and you do know what you are talking about especially with nft and specifically cheeZe lol. No doubt you get it to its full potential but nft supercharges the bud and does give a different profile to soil grown so even that change can be the difference between a nice or nasty high. Comparing those 2 profiles would be interesting.

The cleanest hydro is rockwool nft and was always a big fan of canna nutes especially its fermented boost which got fkn expensive and is one of the best on the planet.


I mentioned rastas in the context of exodus collective following jah and spreading cheeze for free who i cant see many of them gravitating to hydro and buying bottled nutes rather than organic dirt and no need to buy nutes which they would call fuckery. The profile of organic exodus haz grown weed would be diff to people outside haz grown in hydro so that where variation might occur.

I only mentioned if aniseed is in brightside which if greenhouse seeds s1d where did does the aniseed liquorice come from as i only ever tasted it in chiesel, I have heard exodus was growing some fire hindu kush which can hold that profile so does durban and dj shorts flo but cant see aniseed coming from straight skunk 1.


The idea that soil vs hydro is even a "thing" is whats confusing your outlook bro,,and I mean this in a positive way,, i believe everyone gets this issue and even I have taken years to see the forest for the trees

It's not Hydro vs bio,,, it's what type of absorbsion we want,, michrorize produce better forms of p and k,, nitrogen fixed from the atmosphere is better than other forms,, high nitrates are associated with low brix content

The real question is,,, what do we want in the end product,,, how do we suit our indervidual requirements,, what genes do we want switched on at what time,,, living soil tech is amazing but can is easily applied to peatmoss,, soil is not soil nowadays its just a mix of stuff,, we add all sorts of stuff to switch enzymatic resonce on or off,,, led light tech is another rasta fauxpas,, for such a progressive people it pains me to hear such partisan language from virtually every rasta I've spoken to on this subject,,

Throw away the names,, hydro,, bio,, it's all fungus and bactiria suspended on an air to water ratio,, michrorize are just little factory's churning out more absorbable forms of the shit you want,, it's about switches and wiring not hydro vs bio or rasta vs progressive mileniuls
 
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Aniseed,, emmm,,, I've never got that on my nose, but I can associate the colour,, it kinda stings the nose in a similar way too,, so maybe,,, but I can't say the flavour is like that hot cinnamon vibe I usaly get from aniseed on the tongue
 

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For the record,, hydro can mimic "soil",, it is possible to mimic its end product,, you would never know the difference,, remember peet moss with amendments is not technically soil,,but for me personally I don't want nitrogen in late flower so "soil" is not really functional for me,, even amendments on peet moss is not controllable enough in my perfection situation
 

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