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U.K cheese brightside cut ?

Mate Dave

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Culture of crops. Clonal culture & cultural practice....


What I am saying is that Phylos have proved soma clonal variation. Your post is invalid..

The variance in the clones listed in the side by side is Meiotic not mitotic..

The variance is inherited weather from explants or from mother plants. Variation is reduced with consistent propagation..

So we have established that all cuttings weather dissections or simple mechanical cuttings they all need culture to grow or they wouldn't become cuttings ;)

Here is the bit that you will struggle with..

If I was to induce ploidy with a mutagen then that nodal section would haver arisen or been borne from clonal variation..

So your point is mute again..

Take your foot out your mouth & free up the thread for some real information & stop spreading shit.
 

Mate Dave

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Genetically clones are the same they all share the same cell biology except that of environmental influence on the phenotype..

That phenotype never changes genotype.. Plants like to revert.. STS CS & such don't change cells for long, yes you might breed differently when applying colchicine or the hormones but the basic plant material is the same. Clones kept from these isolations will continue to keep these new traits until something suppresses the environmental influences causing change.


You sound like somebody trying to make up a thesis without doing the research hoping the professor don't read your work.

Any kind of fungicide any sort of systemic application or similar will change the cell morphology enough that science can detect it even if the human eye of the beholder cannot
 

skotty

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Managed to score some exodus cheese today off my guy.. still as good today as it was on day 1 nearly 30 years ago

The exodus is the 1 with the floral/lavender terps that this has

Id be more than happy to put the exo or the bluez/liverz or the brum cheese or even the luton cheese cut im currently running next to the brightside cut and see what the fuss is about..

Exodus is still and always will be the original cheese cut

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Mate Dave

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That is the one Skotty. What did you pay for an 8th of it or can you even buy an 8th of it these days? When we 1st seen it in early 2000's I was buying like 30 bags of it @ 2.8 for £20 till I found the grower.. Then I was paying £20 for 3.5's.. Then I went to smoking it every day for 5 years with no other weed..
 

skotty

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That is the one Skotty. What did you pay for an 8th of it or can you even buy an 8th of it these days? When we 1st seen it in early 2000's I was buying like 30 bags of it @ 2.8 for £20 till I found the grower.. Then I was paying £20 for 3.5's.. Then I went to smoking it every day for 5 years with no other weed..

Its free pal cause of the circles i mix in... but yeah the exo is 100% available i just never wanted her and always chose the bluez/liverz ...
 

GoatCheese

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Managed to score some exodus cheese today off my guy.. still as good today as it was on day 1 nearly 30 years ago

The exodus is the 1 with the floral/lavender terps that this has

Id be more than happy to put the exo or the bluez/liverz or the brum cheese or even the luton cheese cut im currently running next to the brightside cut and see what the fuss is about..

Exodus is still and always will be the original cheese cut

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Yea, that's the same plant as what they sell as UK Cheese in Amsterdam:
...lovely stuff.

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skotty

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Yea, that's the same plant as what they sell as UK Cheese in Amsterdam:
...lovely stuff.

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Yeah pal... ive had cheese in dam and seen it loads of times but its hit and miss.. by that i mean sometimes its proper and some times its wank..

Ive never seen bluez/liverz in dam but strawberry banana is close if you could turn that to 11 you would be close

Best cheese ive ever smoked has been in the uk but kuchi that used to be always on the menu in the greyarea holds a soft spot.. exodus x sfv og i did manage to bag some reg seeds..

Its the most lip smacking lemon zing with the dirtiest foul rotten pungent exo on the back.. no brainer
 

skotty

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Strawberry banana on week 6 12/12 you can 100% tell from the buds and aroma the skunk line that has been used in this cross.. deffo the exo or bluez/liverz are in here..

But looking at those buds which are illuminious green you could think it was cheese buds its not until you taste test the stuff yaself

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Mate Dave

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Its free pal cause of the circles i mix in... but yeah the exo is 100% available i just never wanted her and always chose the bluez/liverz ...

That blues clone is much better commercial option for sure it's less risky on the stink & crops faster. Smells like blackcurrant or ribena when cropping it.

Taste of it is somewhat muted compared to the Psychosis & the psychoberry has a diluted funk compared to the psycho mother but it's sweeter & more floral than the mum.. The Nelly was perhaps the better of the Blues & the psychoberry. It yielded better cloned faster hacked the cold better & sold @ the same velocity..


Looks like the Nelly that Strawberry Banana Skotty & the flavour description matches the patchouli & fruity aroma of the NL
 

skotty

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That blues clone is much better commercial option for sure it's less risky on the stink & crops faster. Smells like blackcurrant or ribena when cropping it.

Taste of it is somewhat muted compared to the Psychosis & the psychoberry has a diluted funk compared to the psycho mother but it's sweeter & more floral than the mum.. The Nelly was perhaps the better of the Blues & the psychoberry. It yielded better cloned faster hacked the cold better & sold @ the same velocity..


Looks like the Nelly that Strawberry Banana Skotty & the flavour description matches the patchouli & fruity aroma of the NL

can i ask what you refer to as psycosis.. do you mean nl#5 haze or do you mean pyscosis x cheese?

ive grown the psycosis x cheese and would like her back but she isnt on par with my bluez liverz cut and neither is the exodus but i think it might be prefrence.. if all 3 buds were laid out it would be a tough choice
 

skotty

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Skotty that looks like the cheese to me.
How smelly is it?

that is 100% exodus cheese... obviously it dings.. shes silent until she hits room temp or crack a bud and then you need to act quick... thats the standard these days bro trust...
 

Mate Dave

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Psychosis is unknown lineage at this time.. It's not haze. It's not pure skunk either & there is no cheese in it..

It's the one clone out all those cuts that grows the best in all aspects.. Hydro or soil it just has the ability to push on through like a proper F1 hybrid..

I remember being told by the fairy he wishes he had more F1 psychosis seeds..


Get a cut of her Skotty & grow her. She rips past all those other fruity berry phenotypes in vigour & the buds weigh more for the size then the other cuts..

Psychoberry is a croppers nightmare it's a shit plant. The cheese isn't brilliant compared to the psycho as it's starts to have nutrient issues when the terpene synthase kicks in, it takes nutrient from the leafs to produce the camphene & it don't bud up as fast or smoke as tasty with the excellent high of psycho..

That characteristic of the cheese is mentioned by the skunk man as being inherent in the line he took to holland.. if you read about the synthase you will discover why the cheese has the cal issues when the stink starts
 
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ValleyHill

Many people believe the psychosis to be a northern lights x haze variety it came about around the same time period as the UK cheese
It's well documented on other forums.my belief is that it's got the same genetics somewhere in the line as UK cheese. I know people believe the blues and UK cheese come from sensi seeds skunk number 1,back in the day. Guess we will never know
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Mate Dave

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I did blind tests for like 10 years with my regulars.. Once they got some of the really good stuff IE grown clean they wanted that regardless of the strain.. But they knew they liked the Psyco more than the blues or the others. Give em the option of all 5 of them & they are like 3 of this 2 of that 5 of the other & 7 of that & 10 of that was a good sales point.. You made more like that than having one in stock even if they just wanted one. Cheese & blues only sold by name not on the effects or the taste..

Psychoberry was 1/2 as light as the mum & compared to cheese an ounce of the berry was like half a nine


They are all inferior to that Psycho cut
 

Mate Dave

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Psychosis seems to have come from after the NL strains in the 90-92 era & was the new kid on the block when sensi did the 96 catalogue. It could be a Juicy fruit rather than a silver pearl or a Silver haze. It's got the NL line in it that makes folks think it contains cheese because they are growing Nelly now cheese ;) & the same paternal lines of ML are in all of those strains. It's got the red petioles & the aroma the maple leaf & black domina give.. EM thought it was a pure NL#5

You can get stuff really close to Psychosis in seed
 
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ValleyHill

Let's hope you fruity juice theory is right. I got ten seedlings on the go right now. I know it's only ten but I should be able to see what's what
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Mate Dave

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I bought 100 @ 30% off, trying to get through to customer services but it's cup weekend..

I've some Black domina like it & some of the autos I have do too..

Gonna tell the customer service that their seeds are unable to do a grow diary or breed & that I would buy 100 if they hand pick them for me & do a germination test like they mention & they all split.. I don't want the duds packed up for spring.. Gonna mention that I got them from a seller not direct & that they themselves must have some fresh seed with perfect germination or they aint even a seed company..
 

skotty

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100% that psycosis is nl#5 x haze and psycosis cheese is nl#5 x haze x exodus..

I grew the psyco x exo and you can taste that floral purple taste from the nl#5 and the sweet berry hazey fruity earthy pungent on the back.. she goes 9 weeks same as the core cut which im currently running... i agree she is a gift that keeps.on giving

Nl#5 x cheese is also another 1 still circulating.. but the nl#5 is way more prominent in terms of that floral purple violet sweets mixed with the dirty pungent earth back of the cheese..
 
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