U.K cheese brightside cut ?

[Mate Dave]

im not saying the reveg did anything.
its just a reference to that specific cut, at a specific time.
I think it was nbeone who originaly posted that. (about reveg)

on a different level,
I have revegged known clones that came back exactly the same as before,
just more vigour.

How would you know they had more vigour & just not more veg time. If you only have a flowering cut to make assessment from?

What are the parameters of vigour in this context of hypothetical heterosis?

Or, How many runs or years of continual propagation did you do of the cuts to ascertain that opinion?

 

[mack 10]

on my cuts, at least 7 years.

 

[Mate Dave]

You kept a cone off revegging plants for 7 years along side a mum? & the one that has to differentiate cell structure has what parameters compared to the other Mac?

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

It was True's suggestion of reveg as to why it might be growing differently. I would suggest clone health and auxin concentration are also relevant.

Try this for example, take one cutting from a root bound deficient mother, infected with mites and fusarium, from the weakest looking branch on the plant. Take another cutting from the apical meristem of a young, disease and pest free, vigorous, recently up potted mother. Observe the difference in vigour.

Peace

 

[Mate Dave]

I have & when they both grow & throw fresh cuts they grow the same piff. Done it many times..

Cloning of branches or stem will give a phenotypical expression but the genes present are the same.. Not all cuts from a healty mum throw symmetrical or uniform cuttings. That's grading. Sam has said all this about cloning the meristematic tissues.. What's different?



I got the cutting before all you seen Brightside. My cutting provenance is before that. It's had a better life by the sounds of it. No P&D no mites nadda. It's never been revegged or been through mixups that might cause slower growth for a period of time like beginner cultivation or handeling via Exodus.. That's just a forum story to me

 

[Spaventa]

It was True's suggestion of reveg as to why it might be growing differently. I would suggest clone health and auxin concentration are also relevant.

Try this for example, take one cutting from a root bound deficient mother, infected with mites and fusarium, from the weakest looking branch on the plant. Take another cutting from the apical meristem of a young, disease and pest free, vigorous, recently up potted mother. Observe the difference in vigour.

Peace

Don't agree about vigour. They either have it or they don't. Specimens are vigorous or not. The variable you are highlighting is health, and its environmental. The second plant you describe isn't necessarily vigorous, it could be a runt but in good health so performs better than a super vigorous F1 hybrid that root bound and got pests and disease.

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

Cloning of branches or stem will give a phenotypical expression but the genes present are the same.. Not all cuts from a healty mum throw symmetrical or uniform cuttings. That's grading.

Dave you just agreed with me. I beg we close this thread now.

Peace

 

[stoney917]

Im no expert on this but from what i seen if a cut mom is old n tired not performing as she used to from a ruff life of being passed around the best way to bring her back to what she once was is tissue culture... I only seen 2 plants where this was done to.. my shoreline cut was beat the fuk up... After tissue culture grows with the vigor of a new seed... Not the 20+yr old cut it is

 

[Mate Dave]

You suggested a root bound unhealthy plant & one with P&D. I said stem thickness or more like stem & branch.. As we know the cambium layer will drives growth & this would be an unfaitr advantage as a comparison. I Also mention meristematic cuttings not those that possess old infected wood.

I agree the thread should be closed when we agree that there was no brightside cheese. There was well & badly kept plants & those that haven't kept plants trying to lead the way or have a say..


Meristematic cuts are micro propagation Stoney.

 

[Cheesegez]

There was well & badly kept plants & those that haven't kept plants trying to lead the way or have a say..


Meristematic cuts are micro propagation Stoney.

NADA , you’ve just never had the Cheese I’m Looking for hence your ignorance from day one , ... because if you did you wouldn’t be calling your Cheese Cheese trust me.. maybe brightside had a different cut to the popular exodus Cheese ? Maybe yours pre dates the Big Bang , all I know there’s fuck loads of Cheese cuts going around and I’ve yet to grow out brightsides ..

Tissue Culture Cloning will eliminate genetic drifts .. but it’s a genetic difference not a drift ???

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

 

[resin_lung]

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony.....

I wish all you fkn CHEEZERS a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Robo X-mas ect. ect.

Each and every one(humbugs included)

 

[Mate Dave]

NADA , you’ve just never had the Cheese I’m Looking for hence your ignorance from day one , ... because if you did you wouldn’t be calling your Cheese Cheese trust me.. maybe brightside had a different cut to the popular exodus Cheese ? Maybe yours pre dates the Big Bang , all I know there’s fuck loads of Cheese cuts going around and I’ve yet to grow out brightsides ..

Tissue Culture Cloning will eliminate genetic drifts .. but it’s a genetic difference not a drift ???

Your lost looking for a fiction of imagination, you already have the strain & just need to get better @ growing Cheesegez, if you want the stink unlock it with your grow..

I've been offered lots & seen lots of cheeses i'm just not listening to this shit I know its shit after 10 years of the stories it's come to an abrupt closure as lies always do..

I have the same cutting that was passed to HGF in the Adam, the only known kept source of the so called brightside from this circle of folks that lost it, same one that is grown by the english guy in a 2m tent.

Your stories are as cute as Ricks, Piffs & Hazey's and make as much sence as Mack..

This cup's gonna be fun if you all show up..


Genetic drift is in a seed line. Sometime called bottleneck, genetic difference would be a diferent strain & we have clearly found that they are indeed all the same plant after this time. Only on here does anyone call it silly names..

You need to wise up too fella. There is no brightside cheese... Just an old skunk cutting

 

[Cloneman]

Yawn z z z

 

[hazyfontazy]

This cup's gonna be fun if you all show up..

got a strange feeling you'll be on your own ,.but the conversation might improve and i guarantee you won't be wrong on ANYTHING

however you are correct ,,no such thing as brightside cheese ,tis just "the"cheese that was passed to us by brightside

 

[Spaventa]

Your lost looking for a fiction of imagination, you already have the strain & just need to get better @ growing Cheesegez, if you want the stink unlock it with your grow..

The cut he's described is the cut Im after. Every detail of our memories matches. Its the REAL cheese the went around Luton, Watford, into London and over to Cambridge for sure. I got this from the guys I got it from when I was a young - it always went to thocse places. Maybe others but those for sure and it was different to everything else and still is. If your cuts buds are light green with tangerine pistils, foxtails and an astringent, almost industrial toilet cleaner smell so strong and pervasive you can smell a double wrapped bag in someone else's pocket from 30 ft away, then you now what we are taking about. If people who grew for 10 years without a problem get busted for smell on the first run of this cut, thats her. If the high is one dimensional, half a joint ceiling and you feel couchy but bored, thats her. After a few days on her you lose your temper easy. Its full mouth super tasty flavour was what we lost liked about it. As tasty as it was smelly. and it was 20 out of 10 for smell. Ridiculously smelly.Smell it outside LOUD before the dude even opened the front door to me and he weren't growing it, just shot it.

You saying its imagined is like telling us we imagined Whitney Houston, she never existed and it was just the same Maria Carey everyone else was into lol

Happy hols all

 

[kopite]

Your lost looking for a fiction of imagination, you already have the strain & just need to get better @ growing Cheesegez, if you want the stink unlock it with your grow..

I've been offered lots & seen lots of cheeses i'm just not listening to this shit I know its shit after 10 years of the stories it's come to an abrupt closure as lies always do..

I have the same cutting that was passed to HGF in the Adam, the only known kept source of the so called brightside from this circle of folks that lost it, same one that is grown by the english guy in a 2m tent.

Your stories are as cute as Ricks, Piffs & Hazey's and make as much sence as Mack..

This cup's gonna be fun if you all show up..


Genetic drift is in a seed line. Sometime called bottleneck, genetic difference would be a diferent strain & we have clearly found that they are indeed all the same plant after this time. Only on here does anyone call it silly names..

You need to wise up too fella. There is no brightside cheese... Just an old skunk cutting

Can only be clonal degeneration or epigenetics at play, we went through it in the drift bogeyman thread... Hope yous find what you're looking for anyway...

@mack, the cheese you gave to people in Liverpool, was it branchy and a bit floppy? We got one about 4 or 5 years back I think that was decent and did the rounds...

 

[Mate Dave]

I've found some things that I like to smoke more than that Skunk Kopite.

The one I have grows floppy if you under feed it calcium & it likes some Potassium silicate that helps. Grows sideways under poor light & pruning. Smells less loud untill flushed properly ..


https://www.slideshare.net/manasicar/breeding-assignment-on-clonal-selection


Section 4 kopite say's; Segregation in F1/Somatic mutation. All related to environmental stimulation as you say.

 

[mack 10]

Your lost looking for a fiction of imagination, you already have the strain & just need to get better @ growing Cheesegez, if you want the stink unlock it with your grow..

I've been offered lots & seen lots of cheeses i'm just not listening to this shit I know its shit after 10 years of the stories it's come to an abrupt closure as lies always do..

I have the same cutting that was passed to HGF in the Adam, the only known kept source of the so called brightside from this circle of folks that lost it, same one that is grown by the english guy in a 2m tent.

Your stories are as cute as Ricks, Piffs & Hazey's and make as much sence as Mack..

This cup's gonna be fun if you all show up..


Genetic drift is in a seed line. Sometime called bottleneck, genetic difference would be a diferent strain & we have clearly found that they are indeed all the same plant after this time. Only on here does anyone call it silly names..

You need to wise up too fella. There is no brightside cheese... Just an old skunk cutting

Where to start?
First off, genetic drift and bottle neck is totally diff.
Bottle necking is like using one male and female to always make your seed. Genetic drift can happen to clones due to pathogens, moulds and bad hygiene.

Please bring some of your cheese samples to the cup@ matedave.
I will be there with my swag which I am getting tested especially for you Dave.

ill wager you don't show.

Can only be clonal degeneration or epigenetics at play, we went through it in the drift bogeyman thread... Hope yous find what you're looking for anyway...

@mack, the cheese you gave to people in Liverpool, was it branchy and a bit floppy? We got one about 4 or 5 years back I think that was decent and did the rounds...

sounds about right time,
was indeed kinda branchy but also floppy.
had a great taste.
ECSD and I think the Chem went with it.

glad it got to do the rounds, that was the plan...
pass that dankage people!

 

[Mate Dave]

What clone has had genetic drift?