TWO S1 LINE PRODUCES MALES

[groady-ho]

sounds kill HH..hey i got 2 different phenos on my pp's..1 very sharp serrated leaves dark green and 1 lighter green almost siver greenish blue and not quite as sharply serrated...seen these 2 defore? one looks like a better yeilder and more branching to it,,

 

[rasputin]

after the buds are pollinated do they stop growing and put forth all energy to grow the seeds. buds are very small like 5-10 pistils per top bud.?? I already pollinated some branches.

Depends how heavily pollinated they are and how early, or late, you pollinate, IME.

I've done some selective pollinations on side branches and they kept stacking new, unfertilized flowers on top of the pollinated sections so the seeds ended up deep inside the buds. They looked sensi but once you broke open a bud, it was seed-central.

And I'm recently finishing a tent-full open pollination that pretty much developed enough calyxes to cover the seeds and then called it a day. I'll be lucky to get 7-10g per plant of buds, once all the seeds have been removed. But I should have about 4K seeds!

hey ras, what's the purpose of wheat flower? 4 weeks to make seeds that;s about right..HH, the buds will continue to grow..also, the bigger the buds the more seeds it will make..you can hit a bud several times for max seed production..

p.s i use a small paintbrush to pollinate..it works very well..

Good mention on the paintbrush, clutch for the selective pollinations. And brown bags to cover the hit-up branch so you don't get any drift onto other parts of the plant. Use pipe cleaner or garden wire to fasten the bag to the stem. After 1/2 day or a full 24 hrs, remove the bag and foliar spray with water to take care of any leftover pollen.

The wheat flour (it can be any flour, that's just what I keep on hand) is used to cut the pollen so you have more to use. It doesn't take much to fertilize a plant so instead of using straight up pollen and burning through it faster than necessary, I cut it.

 

[Hammerhead]

sorry guys im using my finger works well and I can put the pollen were I want it. Im pretty sure Chimera uses his fingers to pollinate selective branches . I wont be running low on pollen for awhile both plants have plenty to offer...

 

[rasputin]

There's no right or wrong, dude. Whatever gets the job done.

 

[ojd]

best to pollinate week 4-5 for a 10 week strain

id be waiting to pollinate a few weeks more so you get more seeds

any pics of male/females your using
any pics of the other gdp s1

peace

 

[Hammerhead]

Im going to hit them again later these plants are not for anthing other then making seeds. You can find pics oF the male PP In charlie's forum PP The male Project. Here is the GDP... I have more GDP,PP seeds. I might start more of these

 

[KiefSweat]

Hi Hammerhead this came up elsewhere recently too.

in regards to more informed readers
Charlie do you have any idea what generation some of the parents of the line are.
From the topic Tom was mentioning I was under the slight impression some of this might be due to multiple selfings.

Some of the old European Lit talks about how normal sexed plants and ratio return from selfed lines.

 

[filtr0w]

fascinating read

this has actually happened a lot with a lot feminized seeds from Rez, he used a reversed OGKA pollen to hit a few of his moms. a lot of females have been showing up in these seeds

i have a super deeze male with absolutely no pistils and it has been flowering for 2 months, i will keep an eye on it. we used it to pollinate a few other females from this feminized seeds, like DSD and Super Deeze. i will be testing the progeny as well to see what happens.

 

[Hammerhead]

still no pistils, She should start dropping enough pollen to collect shortly... Im really enjoying this stuff. cant wait to se what comes out of these seeds ..

 

[inquest]

+1 on Kief's question!

 

[Hammerhead]

going to collect some PP pollen tonight and finger a few..

 

[groady-ho]

yea HH, seeing what comes from them is a blast..sometimes the crosses are the shit and sometimes they blow, but oh so fun...

 

[Hammerhead]

OK I have finished the first dusting. As the plants get larger I will do a 2ND dusting of the same crosses as below.... (STILL NO VISABLE SIGNS OF PISTILS)

 

[Tom Hill]

I was under the slight impression some of this might be due to multiple selfings.

No not selfing in and of itself, but the product of unforced selfings, yes. What we have currently is a million plus guys in California alone looking for the next big thing plant-wise. While this is an extremely powerful search engine that we are indeed fortunate to have, our starting point is most often those couple of seeds per ounce we found in some killer herb -there in lies the issue. Those few seeds are very often the product of unforced selfings, so the family genotype has this pre-existing condition yet to be worked out. The situation is not exactly new either, as many lines begotten through imports (the Thai of the 70's etc) were obtained in the same way.

Actually and perhaps ironically, the quickest way out of the situation is through (forced) selfings coupled with progeny testing.

In post #18 Charlie tells of Wesos encountering populations of "mostly males" via selfing. Sour D and others have shown this as well. These are not males, but a situation where male modifiers have recombined in such a way that they are heavily expressed in the population. The way out is to keep looking, and find a parental plant/s in the population that do not bring this result so commonly upon selfing, exactly as Charlie has done.

We could I suppose also go another route and find a second parent (male or female) that when coupled to a first masks the trait, but masking it and ridding the population of it are two different things.-T

 

[Scottish Research]

There not all in Cali.


R.Fortune

 

[Hammerhead]

All plants are Pollinated..I have still not seen any Pistils? I saved as much as I could let it dry and freeze it..

 

[Tom Hill]

excellent. phase 2, as only through the progeny is the whole story told. Popcorn time

 

[b00m]

Very keen to see how this all goes for you hammer bro
Bring on the mutant females who are being males who will hump other females sounds like some freaky porn stage show

 

[Scottish Research]

Nice work Hammerhead!



R.Fortune

 

[sgapetti]

thx all for this very interesting 3D, i take a seat and stick around for sure