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Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

GOT_BUD?

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Now here's what they hope you don't know and/or don't want you to know. Form FD-1023 is a standard form the FBI has used for years to record information that is unverified and highly suspect. They typically don''t even bother to investigate it unless they get some other source that more or less corroborates the same information. Did you notice the reason MTG gave for why it was very credible? She said something to the effect that you know it's very credible because the informant was paid. The only reason they pay out on these report is because they comme from confidential human sources which are notoriously difficult to recruite and keep. So they throw them a small reward just to get them to keep digging up info and reporting it back to them. The payment has absolutely nothing at all to do with the credability of the info.

What are FD-1023s, and why is protecting them important?

As many of you know, the FD-1023 is the form our special agents use to record raw, unverified reporting from confidential human sources (CHSs). FD-1023s merely document that information; they do not reflect the conclusions of investigators based on a fuller context or understanding. Recording this information does not validate it, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI in our investigations.

Correct as usual. Beau had a video out a few days ago describing what would be in a FD-1023. - "I was paid by MTG to go to Area 51 and ask them about space lasers. And she has an alien living in her basement." "Duly noted sir. And thank you for calling the FBI."
 

Zeez

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i think there is going to be a net increase in Dem voting numbers this next election. i believe the GOP has given them more voters from THEIR extreme social positions than they lose from some voters edging to the right. much of what the right now decries as "extreme" has been around for quite some time and is being mischaracterized for political gain.
There should be win over votes from those who aren't complete idiots and see the major corruption and cover up going on around Chump.
 

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Twitter is interesting because people can put up little pictures next to their names, like a Ukie flag. Too bad there isn't also a pic to show them having been jabbed (and a bronze leaf for each booster), like a good robot.
 

GOT_BUD?

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GOT_BUD?

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Twitter is interesting because people can put up little pictures next to their names, like a Ukie flag. Too bad there isn't also a pic to show them having been jabbed (and a bronze leaf for each booster), like a good robot.

That's great and all but not one of the charges against Trump require the documents to be classified. The only need to reference National Defense. Which they all do.

And what's really ironic is, Trump himself made the punishment much harsher for the crimes he himself is accused of committing. Saying the punishment should be the ultimate price. Do you agree with his assessment?

 
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Zeez

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The reason they believe Chump is called the illusory truth effect.
It's a technique cops use to get a desired testimony out of children in court. Cops repeat their version over and over so the children come to believe that as truth.

So Chump keeps repeating his bullshit excuse and people with below average critical thinking skills eat it up no matter how stupid it sounds. Compare this to his continuous rants on Hillary's emails on an unsecured server and his boasting about how careful he would be so careful with top secret documents.

Yeah, it's real. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect

When they show up in Miami - Lock those fuckers up.
 

Hiddenjems

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i think there is going to be a net increase in Dem voting numbers this next election. i believe the GOP has given them more voters from THEIR extreme social positions than they lose from some voters edging to the right. much of what the right now decries as "extreme" has been around for quite some time and is being mischaracterized for political gain.
What are these popular mainstream “extreme” right wing beliefs?

The biggest popular push is for the rights of parents being in control of what their children are taught about sexuality, not by adults telling them it’s ok to keep secrets from their parents.


What beliefs in opposition to those currently held by democrats are ok to have? If you believe that any belief counter to your ideology is wrong and needs punished, you’re in a cult.
 

Hammerhead

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Oh, I agree wholeheartedly that much of the population in the USA has become dumber.. Critical thinking is absent in so many. What's fake/real to the Repfasist depends on if you are labeled a lib or leftest lol.


I'll add keeping things private from our parents is normal behavior and is not thought by teachers lol.. Sex ed was a topic in HS only!!. Teaching young children only about what we as their parents believe and our personal political ideologies is called indoctrination. A parent's role is to guide our kids to be good people and make good choices while learning about all things which will help them make good choices. While young having more direct influence in their guidance is good(communication is very important) but once in High school forcing your beliefs will only make them rebel. Reading books is a good thing. Banning books is very bad.
 
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GOT_BUD?

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What are these popular mainstream “extreme” right wing beliefs?

The biggest popular push is for the rights of parents being in control of what their children are taught about sexuality, not by adults telling them it’s ok to keep secrets from their parents.


What beliefs in opposition to those currently held by democrats are ok to have? If you believe that any belief counter to your ideology is wrong and needs punished, you’re in a cult.
Ever hear the phrase "Not in my house" followed by the sound of someone taking off a belt?

Opinions held by Democrats that are OK to have -

Everybody should have free healthcare
Everyone should be allowed to live a full and meaningful life
No child should need to worry about being shot in school
No child should be taught how to treat a gunshot wound
No one should be excluded due to their beliefs about religion
No one should be excluded because of who they choose to love (pedophiles not included despite what the GOP would have you believe)
Everyone should have a place to live
That the rich and powerful have too much influence over our political machine and needs to be reeled in drastically
Those who CAN'T help themselves should get help from the government
That teaching kids that the US fucked up in it's treatment of black and brown people, but we're trying to do better
That the police have become far to militarized to effectively police the populace
That mental health issues are real and shouldn't be handled by the aforementioned police
That black folks shouldn't die over selling a cigarette or passing off a fake $20 bill
That bigots and racists have no place in society and are not "good people on both sides"
Russia and Putin are NOT our allies
COVID was real
Masks do work if everyone uses them

I'm sure I'm missing a few very popularly held beliefs by Democrats and Leftists, but you get the point.

Thankfully, due to their increasingly extremist beliefs and constant punching down, today's youth are overwhelmingly liberal in their beliefs and very politically active. Not to mention they are quickly going to outnumber Boomers at the ballot box. They may have some disillusionment with the Old Guard Dems but they are aging out and being replaced with younger, far more progressive representatives. Proving once again that on a long enough timeline, we win.
 
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Hammerhead

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And,,, Red states are all poor and undereducated. That tells allot.

Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states..Traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way.​

 

Hiddenjems

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Ever hear the phrase "Not in my house" followed by the sound of someone taking off a belt?

Opinions held by Democrats that are OK to have -

Everybody should have free healthcare
Everyone should be allowed to live a full and meaningful life
No child should need to worry about being shot in school
No child should be taught how to treat a gunshot wound
No one should be excluded due to their beliefs about religion
No one should be excluded because of who they choose to love (pedophiles not included despite what the GOP would have you believe)
Everyone should have a place to live
That the rich and powerful have too much influence over our political machine and needs to be reeled in drastically
Those who CAN'T help themselves should get help from the government
That teaching kids that the US fucked up in it's treatment of black and brown people, but we're trying to do better
That the police have become far to militarized to effectively police the populace
That mental health issues are real and shouldn't be handled by the aforementioned police
That black folks shouldn't die over selling a cigarette or passing off a fake $20 bill
That bigots and racists have no place in society and are not "good people on both sides"
Russia and Putin are NOT our allies
COVID was real
Masks do work if everyone uses them

I'm sure I'm missing a few very popularly held beliefs by Democrats and Leftists, but you get the point.

Thankfully, due to their increasingly extremist beliefs and constant punching down, today's youth are overwhelmingly liberal in their beliefs and very politically active. Not to mention they are quickly going to outnumber Boomers at the ballot box. They may have some disillusionment with the Old Guard Dems but they are aging out and being replaced with younger, far more progressive representatives. Proving once again that on a long enough timeline, we win.
What beliefs contrary to yours are acceptable to have? Or should any belief or value not inline with your ideology be stamped out and censored?
 

Zeez

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Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states..Traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way.​

We need to tell them we're not paying for their bullshit any more
 

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What beliefs contrary to yours are acceptable to have? Or should any belief or value not inline with your ideology be stamped out and censored?
anyone is free to believe what they want. they are NOT free to restrict everyone else to what they believe themselves in their personal lives. don't want a gun? don't buy one. don't like abortion? don't have one. the freedom to decide for oneself is anathema to todays GOP , plain and simple. they crave undeserved control over others lives...a very good definition of slavery.
 

Hiddenjems

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anyone is free to believe what they want. they are NOT free to restrict everyone else to what they believe themselves in their personal lives. don't want a gun? don't buy one. don't like abortion? don't have one. the freedom to decide for oneself is anathema to todays GOP , plain and simple. they crave undeserved control over others lives...a very good definition of slavery.
You mean like “my body my choice” with covid vaccines, and closing schools for years to deny education to poor kids while private schools were open?

Both parties suck as far as I’m concerned. They both vote to strip individual liberties and fuel the war machine.
 
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