Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[moose eater]

you left out the moose, 3 types of bears (4 counting polar/griz hybrids) caribou, blacktails, fish out the wazoo, incredible scenery... can't we keep Alabama? the fishing and hunting are incredible, and the people there are alarmingly friendly if not talking politics...as country as fried green tomatoes. give them Ohio & Illinois instead. i lost nothing there that i want back...

OK, Alabama can stay, provided I get a free stick-on bobble head of George Wallace in a wheel chair for the dash of my truck, along with a CD recording of Janis Joplin singing the plastic Jesus song to go with it.

You know the one...

"I don't care if it rains or freezes, 'long as I got my plastic Jesus, sittin' on the dashboard of my car...

And I can go 100 miles per hour, 'long as I got that Almighty Power, sittin' on the dashboard of my car...

Well this plastic Jesus has gotta' go, the magnet's fucking up my radio, sittin' on the dashboard of my carrrrr.."

And with a signed copy, I'll even visit there.

Trouble was as a young hitchhiker that I vowed to rarely or never visit states where an ID check included lying face-down in the dirt, with a 12-gauge to the back of the head while they ran my ID, and a cop with a big chew of tobacco in his mouth and a goiter on his neck.

It was a huge safety policy for me, having learned from other thumb-travelers' experiences. Always better to let the other guy do those things and learn from them..

 

[GOT_BUD?]

after seeing the foreperson in an interview i dont trust her motives.

when asked if Trump is going to be indited she kinda grinned and said something like the public will not be surprised.

many in the media took this as affirmation that Trump was going to be indited.

i took this different. she claims to be non-political, i guess b/c she hasnt voted before, but she stated that the best part was getting to shake Rudy Giuliani's hand.

i think there is a good chance of her speaking out being a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters, making it more difficult for indictments to occur for Trump and those in his immediate orbit.......did she give an interview at the request of Republicans or is she just seeking her 15 min of fame?

lock up the regular guys but do nothing to elites.


peace

I have been assured by those much smarter in the law than I am, that she is in no way, shape, or form damaging a criminal case against Donald Trump (or anyone else). She was the foreperson for the Special Grand Jury. Which can only recommend charges, If she were the foreperson for the actual Grand Jury who does issues indictments, then it would be an issue.

She can't damage anything the Grand Jury may or may not do. And the "poisoning a potential jury pool" is a losing argument in a court of law when it's not the Grand Jury involved.

Believe me, I was screaming for her to shut the hell up too. But she can't cause any harm, so let her get her 15 minutes I guess.

 

[moose eater]

I have been assured by those much smarter in the law than I am, that she is in no way, shape, or form damaging a criminal case against Donald Trump (or anyone else). She was the foreperson for the Special Grand Jury. Which can only recommend charges, If she were the foreperson for the actual Grand Jury who does issues indictments, then it would be an issue.

She can't damage anything the Grand Jury may or may not do. And the "poisoning a potential jury pool" is a losing argument in a court of law when it's not the Grand Jury involved.

Believe me, I was screaming for her to shut the hell up too. But she can't cause any harm, so let her get her 15 minutes I guess.

She released no restricted information, though it could be argued that her non-verbal communication was telling.

Fact is that Trump's team will try and milk anything they can to see if they can derail the case(s). It's what they and Trump have done since the beginning of time.

In the case of Trump's attorneys, it's their job to do so. In Trump's case, it's his undying efforts to claim innocence even when he's as guilty as can be.

 

[Zeez]

We already know that he will pull out all the stops and try to weasel out with every opportunity.
Frivolous law suits and ridiculous delay schemes are his specialty. Nothing new.
It is an embarrassment for any judge who allows it.

 

[armedoldhippy]

We already know that he will pull out all the stops and try to weasel out with every opportunity.
Frivolous law suits and ridiculous delay schemes are his specialty. Nothing new.
It is an embarrassment for any judge who allows it.

not allowing the legal weasels their tries risks letting them win temporarily. will it slow things down ? yup. will it save him ? nope. only death keeps him from facing the judges on THIS plane of reality. when he gets to hell, they won't be quite so considerate of legal niceties...ever see the cartoon where the "big shot" is being shoved into the lake of fire by a pitchfork wielding demon while he rants "WHY DIDN'T MY LAWYER WARN ME ABOUT THIS? " that will be our boy Chump going to his reward. as he goes off of the cliff, will he at least go for style points and do a gainer ?

 

[buzzmobile]

I don't care if I slip or skid
Long's I got that Mary's kid
Riding on the dashboard of my car.

I learned that Delaware State Troopers do not take kindly to people walking in white robes. It was probably bad for the corporations registered there.

 

[Jericho Mile]

Whoooooaaaaa….what happened to the Trump Indictment thread? Did it finally implode? And now what? Another thread pops up to fill….

wow…so satisfying

You dudes let a moron live in your heads. Perfection. Keep marching. Crush the Nazis.

 

[Zeez]

Cause his name is Bobby Brown and he's goin down....

 

[GOT_BUD?]

DOJ rules Trump CAN be held liable for civil suits stemming from J6.

WASHINGTON — The Department of Justice said Thursday that former President Donald Trump can be sued by police officers over the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Attorneys for the Justice Department's civil division said in a court filing in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia that Trump does not have absolute immunity from multiple civil lawsuits, filed by police officers and members of Congress, which seek to hold him liable for damages stemming from the Jan. 6 riot.

"Speaking to the public on matters of public concern is a traditional function of the presidency, and the outer perimeter of the president’s office includes a vast realm of such speech," the brief said. "But that traditional function is one of public communication. It does not include incitement of imminent private violence of the sort the district court found that plaintiffs’ complaints have plausibly alleged here."

 

[armedoldhippy]

for some unknown reason, Chump thought that anything he said while in office was protected speech for which he could claim immunity. turns out that urging mob violence against the govt you head is not on that list of protected speech. that is not, in any damn way, a part of his job.

 

[moose eater]

for some unknown reason, Chump thought that anything he said while in office was protected speech for which he could claim immunity. turns out that urging mob violence against the govt you head is not on that list of protected speech. that is not, in any damn way, a part of his job.

Precise definitions were never his strong suit.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Precise definitions were never his strong suit.

"my words mean what i say they mean..."

 

[HempKat]

"my words mean what i say they mean..."

Could you expect anything less from the guy who believed he could declassify classified documents simple bt rhinking about it?

I think some of his supporters are getting scared now though, the latest thing I've been hearing going around is the opinion that if Trump is indicted it will be a good thing because all the republicans will rally around him for being so mistreated and he will be sure to win the nomination and the election in 2024. I think they're hoping to scare the powers that be off from indicting him for fear of that coming true. Here's the thing though, he probably will win the nomination because his core supporters represent a large enough percentage of republican voters that he pretty much has a lock on the nomination no matter what the DOJ or any State Attorneys do. The problem for Trump though is even if he did have the full support of all republicans (which he doesn't) that's not enough to win a general election unless democratic voters don't turn out. To have a decent shot at winning a general election he needs not only a majority of all republicans but also a sizeable percentage of independents and independent voters have been souring on Trump since Jan. 6th. Which will only get worse as the indictments start rolling in next month.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Yup. He's proven himself a 3 times loser. He can help you win your primary, but you'll lose the general.

 

[Jericho Mile]

Cause his name is Bobby Brown and he's goin down....

….yeah sure…but you also believe everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a Nazi. I remember you. Hyperbolic Alarmist.

Let me know how it turns out.

 

[Zeez]

Oh,, Everybody remembers you.

 

[HempKat]

What, did this place suddenly turn into Cheers where everyone knows each others name?

 

[Zeez]

Some aren't so 'cheery'.

 

[moose eater]

Bwahahahahaha!!

"And Justice for all".

Something Mr. Trump has been desperately trying to avoid for a long while now, like, at every filing for a cotinuance, every contesting of jurisdiction or executive priviledge, etc., etc., etc..

He's a pro at trying to make himself appear to be a persecuted victim to the more gullible, if nothing else.

Somewhere out there is an Emmy Award for this sociopath.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Little excerpt from Trump's speech at CPAC:

In 2016, I declared: I am your voice. Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed: I am your retribution," Trump said. "I will totally obliterate the deep state. I will fire the unelected bureaucrats and shadow forces who have weaponized our justice system. And I will put the people back in charge of this country again," he added.

A. Totally fascist.
B. Who created the justice system as we know it today? Republicans.
C. And that's not even close to the most insane thing he said at CPAC.