Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[GOT_BUD?]

Well there is an interesting event that happened the other day that might give us an interesting look at the Republicans. If you haven't heard there has been a second incident of a device entering American airspace. This time however rather then waiting to make sure it could be shot down safely and in a place where it will be easy to salvage they shot it down almost immediately even though they didn't know who it was from or what exactly it was doing. My guess is the quickness with which it was shot down is in response to criticism that was made on how long it took them to shoot down the previous object that they suspect was a Chinese spy balloon.

It will be interesting to see if Republicans this time praise Biden for acting upon this new potential threat immediately or if they will as i suspect criticize him this time for shooting it down too quickly.

They jumped all over his case already for shooting down the first one.



These morons can't make up their mind from day to day and it's sadly hysterical.

 

[armedoldhippy]

they shot it down while it was still out over water instead of letting it "wander aimlessly" across the country doing whatever it was designed to do, and THEN shooting it down over the ocean. why wait ?

 

[moose eater]

What?! Some more of that republican election fraud? This time from an elections official in New Mexico?

The way it reads, I'd wondered if H S Thompson wasn't somewhere in one of the chapters?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sex...0GZfnucLLwrq1nwH7LXtL-ky2QZpnSmIi64oOjcq9qTCU

 

[armedoldhippy]

What?! Some more of that republican election fraud? This time from an elections official in New Mexico?

The way it reads, I'd wondered if H S Thompson wasn't somewhere in one of the chapters?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sex...0GZfnucLLwrq1nwH7LXtL-ky2QZpnSmIi64oOjcq9qTCU

gonna let them find out about the sex and drugs involved on their own, huh?

 

[moose eater]

U.S. shoots down unidentified cylindrical object over Canada

The downing over the Yukon Territory was the second in as many days as North America appeared on higher alert following the China spy balloon. The U.S. offered no new details on the object shot down over Alaska.

www.reuters.com

The US has now downed another 'UFO' over the Yukon Territory of Canada. (*I would hope we received permission from Canada before doing that.. Otherwise... It's a bit of a boundary issue..)

The Soviets, and later on, the Russians, have historically and repeatedly tested Alaska's air Bases and support reactions to air-space 'threats' when they would send bombers across the Bering Sea (Bering Straits), as I'm sure we test other nations, including strutting our stuff in dangerous and provocative manners near Iran and elsewhere with our naval vessels.

But the frequency with which these (apparently) data gathering balloons are coming, causes me to wonder if
they're not only tracking radio frequencies and repeater stations for radio communications, but also testing our defenses for some other, more serious purpose in the near future; reaction times and types..

They were fairly forward in their posturing re. Taiwan of late. Maybe more than posturing.

And from what I've been told, the Chinese, Iranian and Russian hyper-sonic weapons are far more functional than ours.

 

[unclefishstick]

there's two possible explanations..both logical and fits the facts...
crew rotation from the jewish space lasers
or teenage dracos fucking around while the lizard parents are on vacation

 

[HempKat]

U.S. shoots down unidentified cylindrical object over Canada

The downing over the Yukon Territory was the second in as many days as North America appeared on higher alert following the China spy balloon. The U.S. offered no new details on the object shot down over Alaska.

www.reuters.com

The US has now downed another 'UFO' over the Yukon Territory of Canada. (*I would hope we received permission from Canada before doing that.. Otherwise... It's a bit of a boundary issue..)

The Soviets, and later on, the Russians, have historically and repeatedly tested Alaska's air Bases and support reactions to air-space 'threats' when they would send bombers across the Bering Sea (Bering Straits), as I'm sure we test other nations, including strutting our stuff in dangerous and provocative manners near Iran and elsewhere with our naval vessels.

But the frequency with which these (apparently) data gathering balloons are coming, causes me to wonder if
they're not only tracking radio frequencies and repeater stations for radio communications, but also testing our defenses for some other, more serious purpose in the near future; reaction times and types..

They were fairly forward in their posturing re. Taiwan of late. Maybe more than posturing.

And from what I've been told, the Chinese, Iranian and Russian hyper-sonic weapons are far more functional than ours.

Just to put your mind at ease I saw a report on this latest object over Canada where they talked with Justin Trudeau and he confirm that he and the White House talked about it and the shooting down part of it was a joint mission although it was an American fighter jet that actually took it out and by the sounds of it Canada will be solely responsible for the salvage phase but will be sharing everything recovered with the US.

That report also noted that the Alaskan object was in the energy rich region of the Prudhoe Bay and this latest one seemed focused on the resource rich area of the Yukon. There has been much interest in the Arctic region by the major world powers each looking to make some claim on portions of it so it could just all be related to that. Not that makes it any less significant. As far as testing our awareness and response i would be inclined to think that's an inherent part of these types of incursions even if it's not the primary goal.

 

[moose eater]

Just to put your mind at ease I saw a report on this latest object over Canada where they talked with Justin Trudeau and he confirm that he and the White House talked about it and the shooting down part of it was a joint mission although it was an American fighter jet that actually took it out and by the sounds of it Canada will be solely responsible for the salvage phase but will be sharing everything recovered with the US.

That report also noted that the Alaskan object was in the energy rich region of the Prudhoe Bay and this latest one seemed focused on the resource rich area of the Yukon. There has been much interest in the Arctic region by the major world powers each looking to make some claim on portions of it so it could just all be related to that. Not that makes it any less significant. As far as testing our awareness and response i would be inclined to think that's an inherent part of these types of incursions even if it's not the primary goal.

Huh.

None of those areas is part of anything like Antartica, where multiple nations lay claim to side-by-side tracts or anything.

Maybe China's looking to expand production, or the Klingons are looking for a new source of dilithium crystals?

 

[buzzmobile]

teenage dracos fucking around while the lizard parents are on vacation

 

[HempKat]

Huh.

None of those areas is part of anything like Antartica, where multiple nations lay claim to side-by-side tracts or anything.

Maybe China's looking to expand production, or the Klingons are looking for a new source of dilithium crystals?

Well I said Arctic, Antarctica is the other side of the planet. All though you are correct in that multiple nations all have their claims there too.

 

[moose eater]

Well I said Arctic, Antarctica is the other side of the planet. All though you are correct in that multiple nations all have their claims there too.

My point was that no one has multiple claims to the Yukon Terrritory or Prudoe Bay. Only Canada and Alaska/the US claim the areas where these things were shot down.

 

[HempKat]

My point was that no one has multiple claims to the Yukon Terrritory or Prudoe Bay. Only Canada and Alaska/the US claim the areas where these things were shot down.

Oh okay, I get what you're saying now. My point though was that there are multiple countries positioning themselves for making claims in the Artic, I know Russia is for sure and probably China too I'm not sure of any others. Anyway I was suggesting that maybe one of those two or perhaps others eyeballing the Artic were trying to so what the US and Canada already have going on. or perhaps they, whoever it was, is just scoping the Artic in general and lost control of the unmanned vehicles they had doing the work. Also even if they were going for the areas where they were shot down wherever they cam from they had to go over large portions of the Arctic first and we don't have anyway of knowing if where they were shot down was their intended destination. The Chinese balloon passed over Alaska and parts of Canada before moving on over to the Continental US.

Amazingly as of this afternoon, a 4th one has been shot down over Lake Huron. At this point with the US and Canada both are signaling a shoot first and ask questions later approach if it is just some innocent civilian weather organization as China has suggested theirs was, if any more are about there they better start speaking up unless they're okay with losing everything they've invested in their "civilian weather" project so far. Frankly at this point the fact they keep coming and nobody is making any claims of ownership that pretty much confirms whatever the goal is, it is a nefarious one. I'm inclined to think it's all China if they're sure the first one was China, it just seems a bit unlikely that multiple countries would be trying the same approach in the same vicinity so close together, even if the balloons or whatever these latest things are, differ in size and shape. If it is one country this is pretty aggressive and ballsy stuff doing it back to back to back to back like this. I would say if there was any doubt up to now, this pretty much signals we are in Cold War 2.0.

 

[moose eater]

Oh okay, I get what you're saying now. My point though was that there are multiple countries positioning themselves for making claims in the Artic, I know Russia is for sure and probably China too I'm not sure of any others. Anyway I was suggesting that maybe one of those two or perhaps others eyeballing the Artic were trying to so what the US and Canada already have going on. or perhaps they, whoever it was, is just scoping the Artic in general and lost control of the unmanned vehicles they had doing the work.

Amazingly as of this afternoon, a 4th one has been shot down over Lake Huron. At this point with the US and Canada both are signaling a shoot first and ask questions later approach if it is just some innocent civilian weather organization as China has suggested theirs was, if any more are about there they better start speaking up unless they're okay with losing everything they've invested in their "civilian weather" project so far. Frankly at this point the fact they keep coming and nobody is making any claims of ownership that pretty much confirms whatever the goal is, it is a nefarious one.

Yep, for any questionable turf (re. possession or ownership, and even for the lesser nations, rights of conquest don't seem to be entirely dead, just the lingo has changed), there's ample interest in precious metals, oil, gas, etc.

Platinum, titanium, and more are seemingly at a high in demand, and the world is fixated on consumerism.

OPEC is stating their oil reserves are dangerously low, too.

None of that bodes well.

But if you look to Antartica (and I've had friends and acquaintances work there in a variety of capacities, which is one reason I like to reference it), there's a fairly peaceful (overall) coexistence between the nations' 'camps' represented there.

Of interest in the conflicting pilots' reports, is that some reported 'it' as not having any obvious method of propulsion, but implying it was indeed propelled some how.. At least in terms of its 'floating' aloft. Other(s) reported it as messing with their instruments, but not all of them reported these things.

Probably be follow-up writing in the next issues of Popular Mechanics. Magnetic gyros or some such thing..

 

[moose eater]

Amazingly as of this afternoon, a 4th one has been shot down over Lake Huron. At this point with the US and Canada both are signaling a shoot first and ask questions later approach if it is just some innocent civilian weather organization as China has suggested theirs was, if any more are about there they better start speaking up unless they're okay with losing everything they've invested in their "civilian weather" project so far. Frankly at this point the fact they keep coming and nobody is making any claims of ownership that pretty much confirms whatever the goal is, it is a nefarious one.

If it is some sort of curious 'visitor', that's not a really nice welcome mat to hang out there. Shooting at folks for merely pullng in your driveway can have dire consequences... for someone.

 

[HempKat]

Yep, for any questionable turf (re. possession or ownership, and even for the lesser nations, rights of conquest don't seem to be entirely dead, just the lingo has changed), there's ample interest in precious metals, oil, gas, etc.

Platinum, titanium, and more are seemingly at a high in demand, and the world is fixated on consumerism.

OPEC is stating their oil reserves are dangerously low, too.

None of that bodes well.

But if you look to Antartica (and I've had friends and acquaintances work there in a variety of capacities, which is one reason I like to reference it), there's a fairly peaceful (overall) coexistence between the nations' 'camps' represented there.

Of interest in the conflicting pilots' reports, is that some reported 'it' as not having any obvious method of propulsion, but implying it was indeed propelled some how.. At least in terms of its 'floating' aloft. Other(s) reported it as messing with their instruments, but not all of them reported these things.

Probably be follow-up writing in the next issues of Popular Mechanics. Magnetic gyros or some such thing..

Yeah I saw that pilots report too but given how fast they're moving when they come in to close enough range to really see anything you got to take their observations with a grain of salt.

It would be quite a hoot if this all turned out to be the product of some random genius who built something in his garage with a never before seen propulsion system that uses the magnetic waves the earth generates. And when the catch the guy responsible it's just some nerdy kid with thick glasses and suspenders that say sheepishly "Did I do that?" Another thought I had although a bit more farfetched what if these turned out to be some sort of escape pods from an alien scout ship that happened to crash around the same time as everyone was focused on the Chinese balloon? Or here's another thought ,since these recent ones are much smaller and a different shape, maybe the bigger balloon launched these smaller things before we noticed it?

 

[unclefishstick]

nice! a cold war + global warming = problem solved!

 

[moose eater]

Yeah I saw that pilots report too but given how fast they're moving when they come in to close enough range to really see anything you got to take their observations with a grain of salt.

It would be quite a hoot if this all turned out to be the product of some random genius who built something in his garage with a never before seen propulsion system that uses the magnetic waves the earth generates. And when the catch the guy responsible it's just some nerdy kid with thick glasses and suspenders that say sheepishly "Did I do that?" Another thought I had although a bit more farfetched what if these turned out to be some sort of escape pods from an alien scout ship that happened to crash around the same time as everyone was focused on the Chinese balloon? Or here's another thought ,since these recent ones are much smaller and a different shape, maybe the bigger balloon launched these smaller things before we noticed it?

The aliens heard we have good pizza, maybe?

 

[HempKat]

If it is some sort of curious 'visitor', that's not a really nice welcome mat to hang out there. Shooting at folks for merely pullng in your driveway can have dire consequences... for someone.

True but if you were aware of two or three other people getting shot for pulling in driveways unannounced wouldn't you do you best to stop pulling into people's driveways unannounced? I mean unless this is the result of a visitor from another world it would be pretty hard for any citizen of a nation of this planet to convincingly say they were unaware of what's been going on in that airspace the past week or so.

 

[moose eater]

Language barriers? A complete failure to understand why a species would shoot first and talk later? Lack of understanding for good ol' 'Murcan etiquette? Unmanned vessels making inquiries? Masochistic aliens practicing a really expensive form of BDSM?

 

[HempKat]

The aliens heard we have good pizza, maybe?

Oh damn, you had to mention pizza, now I'm hungry.