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Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)
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I was doubtful Trump would ever have a view with bars, but the narrative is getting mighty dicey for him
if the lawyer situation is that bad, he's paying money for crap
and DT didn't buy crappy things, he always bought the best(for himself)
his minions seem to be digging it in a strange way
they don't care if he goes to prison, the idea that he can be elected and serve as president in the joint is becoming their vision
Brother Nature
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OJ did 9 years…
RobFromTX
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True. But for viciously slaughtering two people and leading a high speed chase across LA thats the deal of a lifetime and trump has a lot more money than he did.
GenghisKush
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certainly not now. guilty of tax fraud, grand larceny, his business assets are in receivership and will be dissolved, his business licences are cancelled.
Brother Nature
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That’s true, but the justice system had a hard on for him ever since and his life became pretty difficult as a result. I would be surprised if trump does go to jail, but it would restore a little faith that the system isn’t totally corrupt. Wishful thinking I know, but sometimes that’s all you got.
I wouldn't give up on Trump going to jail. First off lets keep in mind that most of his networth was tied up in his properties, the same ones he fraudulently increased in value when he wanted favorable loand and then fraudulently decreased in value when he didn't want to pay taxes. That raising and lowering is the basis of the fraud case in NY He also used that fraud to make him eem like he was wealthier then he was just so he could qualify to be on the Forbes list which he no longer is which says they've decided he's not worth anything near what he claims.He's looking at losing at least a quarter of a billion if he loses the fraud case and he's lost the ability to do business in NY and as was stated his prized assests in NY are in recievership. Then there is all the money he's lost messing around with porn stars and the like and the millions he lost on the sexual assault case. The only reason the lawyers are getting paid is because their money is coming directly from the fund fed by his supporters. i don't think any of them are getting paid up front, as far as i know there was only one lawyer who insisted on that and Trump side lined him or let him go a few months ago. His lawyers are crap because since their money is being paid by pAC that's paying them, they're not doing what's best for Trump but rather are doing what Trump tells them such as filing frivilous motions that instantly get shot down and some are so bad the judges have been fining the lawyers who should know better. Which I'm sure they do, they just don't have the spines to stand up to Trump.
Yes the elite and wealthy get better treatment, mainly because they can afford to pay for lawyers most people can't, actual good lawyers, not the clowns Trump's been working with. They also have somewhat of a fraternity and use their influence to help each other out but only when they know how to behave. Trump is an embarassment to that fraternity and since his chances of getting re-elected are growing weaker by the day they can't even count on Trump giving them tax cuts or more judges on the supreme court and so they're not looking the other way like they did back in 2016-2020. Also being a wealthy elite doesn't give you guarenteed protection, if it did Bernie "Madeoff with everyone's money" would never have gotten locked up.
The only thing pssible to save Trump at this point is the fear of national embarrassment and the fear of setting a precedent but Trump is alreaddy embrassing the country daily even when he's not president and that precedent thing doesn't really matter that much because out of 46 Presidents Trump is the first and only one to screw up as badly as he did. i mean he even made people look back fondly on Bush and compared to Trump Nixion is a choirboy. If they lock him up and show that there really is teeth to that belief that Nobody is above the law then we're not likely to have presidents that are really going to worry about the precedent of locking Trump up.
Yes the elite and wealthy get better treatment, mainly because they can afford to pay for lawyers most people can't, actual good lawyers, not the clowns Trump's been working with. They also have somewhat of a fraternity and use their influence to help each other out but only when they know how to behave. Trump is an embarassment to that fraternity and since his chances of getting re-elected are growing weaker by the day they can't even count on Trump giving them tax cuts or more judges on the supreme court and so they're not looking the other way like they did back in 2016-2020. Also being a wealthy elite doesn't give you guarenteed protection, if it did Bernie "Madeoff with everyone's money" would never have gotten locked up.
The only thing pssible to save Trump at this point is the fear of national embarrassment and the fear of setting a precedent but Trump is alreaddy embrassing the country daily even when he's not president and that precedent thing doesn't really matter that much because out of 46 Presidents Trump is the first and only one to screw up as badly as he did. i mean he even made people look back fondly on Bush and compared to Trump Nixion is a choirboy. If they lock him up and show that there really is teeth to that belief that Nobody is above the law then we're not likely to have presidents that are really going to worry about the precedent of locking Trump up.
Meanwhile in the Senate, Mitch McConnell tells Josh Hawley to "leave the money alone". I never expected to support a Hawley bill.
www.yahoo.com
Mitch also says "leave the money AND the Supremes alone".
www.yahoo.com
Mitch McConnell warns GOP senators they’ll face ‘incoming’ if they back Hawley bill to limit corporate giving in campaigns
(CNN) - Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell bluntly warned GOP senators in a private meeting not to sign on to a bill from Sen. Josh Hawley aimed at limiting corporate money bankrolling high-powered outside groups, telling them that many of them won their seats thanks to the powerful super PAC the...
Mitch also says "leave the money AND the Supremes alone".
McConnell tells Senate Democrats to back off on Supreme Court
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) warned Senate Democrats on Tuesday about issuing subpoenas to two prominent billionaires and a conservative activist because of their friendly ties to conservative members of the Supreme Court, calling such a move “totally inappropriate.” McConnell...
After some more reading...
I suspect the warning to Dems about subpoenas to those two billionaires isn't so much about the appropriateness (because it's totally appropriate for Congress to perform oversight thru a comttiee congress created to enforce laws congress passed) but rather it's about how much more inappropriate and unreported donations those two donors have made beyond just supreme court justices.
The other day I made a post about how the elites are starting to either distance themselves from Trump or are outright rejecting him and how this might lead to him actually doing jail time. Well since I made that post a story has surfaced that backs up what I was saying and so I wanted to share it here just to show that I'm not making this stuff up.
The elite this story references is a billionaire by the name of Leon Cooperman who is what is known as a Republican Mega Donor, who donates almost exclusively to Republican candidates and has been doing so as far back as at least the Bush years if not longer. He is no friend of the Democrats and has been known as a "vociferous crusader against Democrats". In the interview the story came from he had some rather telling things to say about Trump, such as, "Trump is a divisive human being who belongs in jail" he was also quoted as saying, "It would be terrible for the country if Donald Trump were reelected". He also went on record acknowledging that he "very reluctantly" voted for Joe Biden in 2020. He added that if the major party nominees were Joe Biden and Donald Trump in 2024, he probably wouldn't vote at all. The story also talks about a couple of other Billionaire Republican Mega Donors who are also no longer backing Trump despite having backed him in 2020.
The elite this story references is a billionaire by the name of Leon Cooperman who is what is known as a Republican Mega Donor, who donates almost exclusively to Republican candidates and has been doing so as far back as at least the Bush years if not longer. He is no friend of the Democrats and has been known as a "vociferous crusader against Democrats". In the interview the story came from he had some rather telling things to say about Trump, such as, "Trump is a divisive human being who belongs in jail" he was also quoted as saying, "It would be terrible for the country if Donald Trump were reelected". He also went on record acknowledging that he "very reluctantly" voted for Joe Biden in 2020. He added that if the major party nominees were Joe Biden and Donald Trump in 2024, he probably wouldn't vote at all. The story also talks about a couple of other Billionaire Republican Mega Donors who are also no longer backing Trump despite having backed him in 2020.
Jimmy Dore's friend of 30 years outs him as an anti vax shill getting paid for anti vax talking points by an anti vax (now dead) billionaire (Peter Allard). If you don't think this happens throughout the industry, especially all those independent channels, think again.
Democrats voted not to expel Santos because it would set dangerous precedent, lawmaker says
Democrat says voting to expel Santos would have set dangerous precedent
Jamie Raskin says it was ‘an easy call’ because Santos hasn’t been convicted of a crime, though he faces 23 federal criminal charges
www.theguardian.com
they won't kick this fraud out. nothing substantial is going to happen with trump.
Despite your feelings on the subject, even George Santos is allowed due process.Democrats voted not to expel Santos because it would set dangerous precedent, lawmaker says
Democrat says voting to expel Santos would have set dangerous precedent
Jamie Raskin says it was ‘an easy call’ because Santos hasn’t been convicted of a crime, though he faces 23 federal criminal charges
they won't kick this fraud out. nothing substantial is going to happen with trump.
I just wish Chuck Schumer had shown Al Franken the same consideration.
Everyone already knows the republicans are fraudulent except for too far goners at this point.
Can't that same logic be applied to Trump? If they don't allow him to run for president and/or arrest him it will cause voter backlash.
didn't santos lie under oath?
