BAM ! Both questions answered in one pic !
this thread is getting boring, some kind of dick measuring contest or some'ut.
Let's be clear: "due process" is an inalianable right, that protects us all
like hell it was. let's keep on pretending the cartels appeared by magic.
Guantanamo is a military operation for people who are effectively prisoners of war. Not justifying it, just saying..... Big stretch to link that people escaping violent third world countries trying to survive. Warring in the middle east is insanity in my book. We can not and will not change them.
Worse yet we can not afford to play the game. The countless billions spent could have rebuilt the entire infrastructure and provided college education and medical. Instead we have huge national debt for nothing. Republicans got to buy more arms from their buddies that give them money to get elected.
Gypsy, I think you got fucked. All that for some lousy pot seeds is insanity. Vermont just passed a law forgiving pot crimes.
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my point was simply that due process is no longer sacrosanct and once you take it off 1 type of person you can much easier take it off the next group and so on.
immigration is just one of the new tools of repression, it gives the gov an excuse to wander around demanding peoples documents. now when i was in school this was given me as an example of a fascist nazi police state behavior. but now they got the Americans to the point where they are begging for check points and "routine" id checks. instead of having a secure border, they now have an excuse to demand you identify yourself and your immigration status any where in the country. same thing is happening in England from what im reading.
it used to be the drug war used as an excuse to "spot" check people, but at least they needed probable cause, with the immigration status excuse, no one is safe from being made to produce documents and all the potentially dangerous consequences of any interaction with the police.