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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

buzzmobile

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Monster Steppenwolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVE8leTG8Y

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of Kingdom and pope
Like good Christians some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands, to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And till the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
The Blue and Grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war was over
They stuffed it just like a hog
And though the past has its share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But its protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey
The spirit was freedom and justice
And its keepers seemed generous and kind
Its leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
Now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'
The cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole world's got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner we can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'
America, where are you now
Don't you care about your sons and daughters
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
America, where are you now
Don't you care about your sons and daughters
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
America...America...America...America...
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Jerry Edmonton / John Kay
 

armedoldhippy

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St. Phatty

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Is This the End of Recycling?

Americans are consuming more and more stuff. Now that other countries won’t take our papers and plastics, they’re ending up in the trash.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/is-this-the-end-of-recycling?utm_source=pocket-newtab

I recycle almost everything.

My trash ends up fitting in a 2 pound foil coffee bag or a plastic bag from the supermarket.

All the food gets recycled, paper & cardboard gets burned.

Liquid containers I save to re-fill with water.

What I wonder about paper & cardboard - What if it was buried & subjected to very high pressure ? Would you get diamonds ? Does it need to be turned into charcoal first ?

I can only burn it because I live in the country.

Metal, e.g. cat food cans, I could actually sell, but it's not worth driving through the metal recycling place. Hard on the tires.

So I give away low grade steel if I go there to sell some brass & copper or something.
 

Gry

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Monster Steppenwolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVE8leTG8Y

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of Kingdom and pope
Like good Christians some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands, to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And till the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
The Blue and Grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war was over
They stuffed it just like a hog
And though the past has its share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But its protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey
The spirit was freedom and justice
And its keepers seemed generous and kind
Its leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
Now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'
The cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole world's got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner we can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'
America, where are you now
Don't you care about your sons and daughters
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
America, where are you now
Don't you care about your sons and daughters
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
America...America...America...America...
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Jerry Edmonton / John Kay
Thank you so much.
The images added are certainly heartfelt.
 

bigtacofarmer

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I went thru a period where our family was very careful to only eat non processes food and compost as much of out wasted as possible. A family of 6 was disposing of less than a full garbage bag of trash each week. We have slipped back a little bit. And feeling guilty. Need to get the diet back in good order and start worm farming again. Not to mention.. Herb grown with fresh worm castings taste so goood.
 

Gry

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A young Henry Kissinger served as a translator in for G2 while in the army.
Stationed in Germany as the war concluded,
he worked with a number fascinating people.
One being Otto Skorzeny, who had been involved
with the rescue mission of an imprisoned Mussolini.
picture.php
 
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Mr D

Why should anyone support liberal solutions to real problems. Or better yet increased taxes on the rich to give to the government "do gooders" and there empty promises. What is the definition of insanity?


After dancer strips at Seattle conference on homelessness, agency director suspended


The director of King County’s coordinating agency for homelessness is on paid leave following a dancer’s strip show at the agency’s annual conference on Monday.

Performer Beyoncé Black St. James danced topless in a sheer bodysuit, gave lap dances and kissed attendees, according to a staffer at a local housing nonprofit who attended the conference in South Seattle.

Kira Zylstra, organizer of the conference at South Seattle College, has been placed on leave as of Thursday, according to Denise Rothleutner, chief of staff for the King County Department of Community and Human Services.

The department declined to comment further because of the active investigation, Rothleutner said in the email. Zylstra was not available for comment. Her suspension was first reported by journalist Erica C. Barnett on her website.

Zylstra has led All Home, King County’s coordinating agency homeless services, since January 2018. But her job could soon become obsolete as Seattle and King County prepare to replace All Home, which has been criticized as weak and ineffective, with a new regional authority on homelessness. Zylstra was paid about $123,000 a year, according to a county spokesperson.

Is it a coincidence that the highest homeless rates are in liberal democrat controlled cities? Why should the truck drivers, carpenters, administrative assistants spend 30 years paying off a $250k mortgage be required to foot the bill for low or no income housing in California at a cost of $550k per unit?

Anyone who has spent any time in Baltimore can see what 30 years of liberal democrat policies have done. Sections of the city look they belong in a 3rd world country yet the city receives millions if not billions from taxpayers as the city continues to decline.

There are fluffy talking points and empty promises for people to repeat ad nauseam if you can ignore reality.

Or maybe it's Trump's tax cuts for the rich to blame. Perhaps Seattle could have hired 2 transgender strippers for a conference on homelessness if only we gave these people more money.
 

Gry

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Why should anyone support liberal solutions to real problems. Or better yet increased taxes on the rich to give to the government "do gooders" and there empty promises. What is the definition of insanity?


After dancer strips at Seattle conference on homelessness, agency director suspended




Is it a coincidence that the highest homeless rates are in liberal democrat controlled cities? y should the truck drivers, carpenters, administrative assistants spend 30 years paying off a $250k mortgage be required to foot the bill for low or no income housing in California at a cost of $550k per unit?

Anyone who has spent any time in Baltimore can see what 30 years of liberal democrat policies have done. Sections of the city look they belong in a 3rd world country yet the city receives millions if not billions from taxpayers as the city continues to decline.

There are fluffy talking points and empty promises for people to repeat ad nauseam if you can ignore reality.

Or maybe it's Trump's tax cuts for the rich to blame. Perhaps Seattle could have hired 2 transgender strippers for a conference on homelessness if only we gave these people more money.
When something matters we are not asked.
Hell, here, it so deep seated they throw a hundred million
a year at the police to 'deal with' the homeless.
No building of low or middle class housing.
A surplus of new luxury rentals exists sitting between the growing collection of shuttered retail locations.
Don't see how giving the ultra rich further breaks on taxes will
benefit the homeless a bit.
I do however see that those such as habitat for humanity
produce results on shoestring budgets which result in
putting people in homes. I have no qualms in describing the
outfit as a successful solution.
Apathy and insanity are as well engineered
as anything else in our society.
 

h.h.

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Got a source for that?
You think the homeless want to stay in the Midwest?

They go where the surf rolls and the weather is warm. San Diego.


I lived in a treehouse overlooking the ocean in Solana Beach, campgrounds in Big Sur, Lake Tahoe. A commune in Moro Bay.
I had a home in Palm Springs. I was homeless on purpose. It allowed me to see things and experience them. I wasn’t a bum, I’d always find work.
Palm Springs has a huge homeless population in the winter. I’d see some of them in Tahoe come summer.


It used to be standard practice to bus the homeless out of town. Most common destination was Santa Monika.


There’s vast reasons for the homeless in California, the least being liberal policies. The facts are true, the reasoning is bullshit.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mfl6f
 

bigtacofarmer

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Why should anyone support liberal solutions to real problems. Or better yet increased taxes on the rich to give to the government "do gooders" and there empty promises. What is the definition of insanity?


After dancer strips at Seattle conference on homelessness, agency director suspended




Is it a coincidence that the highest homeless rates are in liberal democrat controlled cities? Why should the truck drivers, carpenters, administrative assistants spend 30 years paying off a $250k mortgage be required to foot the bill for low or no income housing in California at a cost of $550k per unit?

Anyone who has spent any time in Baltimore can see what 30 years of liberal democrat policies have done. Sections of the city look they belong in a 3rd world country yet the city receives millions if not billions from taxpayers as the city continues to decline.

There are fluffy talking points and empty promises for people to repeat ad nauseam if you can ignore reality.

Or maybe it's Trump's tax cuts for the rich to blame. Perhaps Seattle could have hired 2 transgender strippers for a conference on homelessness if only we gave these people more money.

Maybe take money from the rich and provide health care, education, infrastructure and other things that benefit the people?
 

h.h.

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Veteran
When something matters we are not asked.
Hell, here, it so deep seated they throw a hundred million
a year at the police to 'deal with' the homeless.
No building of low or middle class housing.
A surplus of new luxury rentals exists sitting between the growing collection of shuttered retail locations.
Don't see how giving the ultra rich further breaks on taxes will
benefit the homeless a bit.
I do however see that those such as habitat for humanity
produce results on shoestring budgets which result in
putting people in homes. I have no qualms in describing the
outfit as a successful solution.
Apathy and insanity are as well engineered
as anything else in our society.

For every liberal policy, there’s capitalists waiting to take advantage. They in turn point at their own greed as rational for not paying their share.
 

St. Phatty

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Anybody else see the picture of the (presumably) homeless guy crapping in the Marina Safeway in San Francisco ?

Yes, America has come so far. /sarc
 

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