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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

flylowgethigh

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There has been a movement to make America communist for a long time. That book "rules for radicals" by alinsky seems to be their playbook and they are using it to this day. This deal about evil Russia is their last stand iMO. The rest of the world has had enough and our time is waning. There is a chart that shows up on Zero Hedge every now and then that shows the great countries over time. Rome, Portugal, Spain, England, and now sadly America. BTW, the media is complicit in our downfall.

I like the way this article points out that the people who start the world war will not be able to hide on their ranches in Paraguay.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-you-say-you-want-russian-revolution

" Martyanov mischievously characterizes the Petrel as “a vengeance weapon in case some among American decision-makers who may help precipitate a new world war might try to hide from the effects of what they have unleashed in the relative safety of the Southern Hemisphere."

I have said for years that we need to put a bunch of poles up on the Washington Mall, and impale the corrupt crooked politicians in DC, and leave their carcasses there to rot as a warning to future crooked politicians.

But it is Christmas so I think I will do some dab and go outside and play. Not much I can do about corruption and greed here today anyways.
 

slownickel

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I think a lot of it is related to diet. No calcium in our diet anymore. Lots of potassium.

As well, glyphosate is killing us all.

As well, NAFTA let US agriculture and US manufacturing get exported. China took off.

Perfect storm if you will.
 

White Beard

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A young Henry Kissinger served as a translator in for G2 while in the army.
Stationed in Germany as the war concluded,
he worked with a number fascinating people.
One being Otto Skorzeny, who had been involved
with the rescue mission of an imprisoned Mussolini.
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I wonder how much of his later career was built from things he learned and connections he made in *that* job....
 

Zeez

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There is a series on netflix called 'Broken' with an episode on plastics. Only 7% or so get truly recycled. China stopped taking it on 1/2018 and it's backing up. Worth a watch and gives ideas on why there is no legislation or urge to catch up with other 'developed' countries.
 

White Beard

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There has been a movement to make America communist for a long time. That book "rules for radicals" by alinsky seems to be their playbook and they are using it to this day. This deal about evil Russia is their last stand iMO. The rest of the world has had enough and our time is waning. There is a chart that shows up on Zero Hedge every now and then that shows the great countries over time. Rome, Portugal, Spain, England, and now sadly America. BTW, the media is complicit in our downfall.
Merry Christmas, dude! :tiphat:

I suppose congratulations of a sort are in order: your indoctrination is complete. The *Soviet* effort to undermine and conquer America was the original cover, but that no longer serves, now that Russia is now a partner in the home-grown struggle to cage American liberty.

GUARANTEE you’ve never read Alinsky’s book; doubt you’ve read any actual quotes from it - the *real* irony is that the so-called ‘right’ has been USING Alinsky as their manual in their efforts these last 20 years to organize anti-government political opposition (Tea Party, anyone?).

Not saying the Soviets did *not* have designs on our nation: saying our own home-grown fifth-column of billionaire-funded -and -guided racists/apologists have made common cause with the semi-post-soviet Putin era - and now COMMUNISM is resurrected as a boogieman, to stand beside the cardboard terrorist cut-out. And you can’t see a thing.

Well done: I’m sure your compliance will be rewarded.
 

White Beard

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There is a series on netflix called 'Broke' with an episode on plastics. Only 7% or so get truly recycled. China stopped taking it on 1/2018 and it's backing up. Worth a watch and gives ideas on why there is no legislation or urge to catch up with other 'developed' countries.

I dug into this awhile back, when it came down. Seems the single biggest reason is us.

China was buying recyclable materials, but we were sending them garbage in plastic containers. Americans, it seems, view recyclables as just a different class of garbage: rotting food in Tupperware, unrecyclable trash (“plastic!”), and food containers of all sorts unrinsed, unwashed, contaminated. Unsuitable for raw materials. China decided no more.

One of the relatively few things I agree on with China
 

Zeez

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Having lived in Europe, not military, they run a very tight ship on recycling. All soda comes in glass bottles and reusable plastic racks. Everything possible gets composted. We really are the world pigs for making landfill garbage ala Idiocracy. Petroleum companies own the government and prevent legislation against plastics. There is some momentum on single use plastics like water bottles.
 

White Beard

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Europe really has the right idea about plastics: it’s a permanent material, so make things well-designed and functional, make them INdisposable.

One of the coolest things I ever saw was in Germany - an electric kettle made of plastic, heating element completely sealed, high-temp, high-impact, inexpensive and durable. I don’t live there now, but I expect that kettle is still performing. Europe has always had more realistic gas/petrol prices than US: our riches guaranteed waste, Europe had no such abundance, and the prices are stiff compared to here
 
{dug into this awhile back, when it came down. Seems the single biggest reason is us.

China was buying recyclable materials, but we were sending them garbage in plastic containers. Americans, it seems, view recyclables as just a different class of garbage: rotting food in Tupperware, unrecyclable trash (“plastic!”), and food containers of all sorts unrinsed, unwashed, contaminated. Unsuitable for raw materials. China decided no more.

One of the relatively few things I agree on with china
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I guess if you where unknowledgeable about it you would think that
how many owners of waste management places do you know?
do you know the process on intake?
I know them all on doremus ave. and most in that area doing business there for over 30 years
cans glass plastic and cardboard is separated in enclosed buildings plastics are WASHED
first off china wants no more plastic from any country
its about the cost of the processing
recycling was always a loss in profit to all but china




they burn more in our state now so linden and belvedere and other incinerators in their countys keep very busy
now they are burning organic matter like leaves and grass its gotten so bad


that said if you really want to help use less plastics and try to green recycle
use them for other purposes,say like a coffee can to hold screws gallon containers to water ect ect . you can take them over the bridge and try to get better money per can but don't know if ny still gives 5c 10c or 25c depending on size
no matter you will still be in the hole after gas and tolls
use less single use plastics is best idea
just saying
 

flylowgethigh

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A little observation of American life through my own eyes

A little observation of American life through my own eyes

I wonder how much of his later career was built from things he learned and connections he made in *that* job....

Soros had an interesting job then also. The globalists had their way with the world back in 1947. It seems like they pull a stunt each generation. Fed bank created (again), then WW1 in the early 1910's. Gold confiscation and depression in the 30's. Carved up the ME too into nice little boundarys too. After ww2
in 1947, they carved up the east/west and muslum/hindu (India/Pakistan), stole land from the Palestinians and created Israel, established the USofA on top with a gold standard and world reserve currency, set us the petrodollah with the Saudis. Gold was taken by the French to pay for their little mis-step in indo-china (called Viet Nam) so they started raiding Ft Knox @$35/oz with silly doller redemptions, emptying the place in the late 60's. MIC needed some economic help so they killed Kennedy, took away our last remaining real money in the form of silver certificates and silver coins, and started welfare (socialism) with this "great society " BS. Plus, the MIC had us take over for the frog's little failed freedom campaign in Viet nam. By 1971 (IMO the peak of USA living during my lifetime) Nixon, who was a paranoid f*cker that hated happy "hippies", closed the gold-for-dollar redemption window. We were broke and the .guv needed to change the paradigm.

So the globalists in the deep state saw blood and the .guv get busy and rolled up their sleeves. EPA, war on drugs, equal rights femminazi BS (they needed the women working to cover up inflation), you name it. Shut down the BOEL and took away our honey oil.

They did 9-11 a generation later. Now they are trying to complete the takeover by getting rid of that damn outsider who actually loves America. F*ckin globalist dirtbags. Notice how the media called patriotic Americans "White Nationalists".

I am a white guy that loves America. They say I am the problem and should have my guns and moolahs taken away cause I don't wear skinny jeans and drive a PU truck. F'in commies think they are on the final lap in the race to kill America and they are pissed that Trump has passed them with their finish line in sight. :moon:

Interesting times we live in. No wonder they want to take away our guns. :biggrin:

Edit, besides probably a lot of history, I forgot the debt. And here is why the pain will be very real... Did I mention the debt?

This link is from the criminals at the fed who are to blame for enabling the criminals in DC. Notice that once the .guv was freed'd from the golden chains that bound it - the sky was the limit. Now who is buying this debt as we have pissed off Russia (they sold and bought gold - a good move), China )ditto, but they still have some treasuries). Mom and Pop? Social Security?

Naah, the fed will with printed moolah. Graph won't copy/paste.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=lVn9

Federal_Debt_Held_by_the_Public_1790-2013.png
 
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St. Phatty

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use them for other purposes,say like a coffee can to hold screws gallon containers to water ect ect . you can take them over the bridge and try to get better money per can but don't know if ny still gives 5c 10c or 25c depending on size
no matter you will still be in the hole after gas and tolls
use less single use plastics is best idea
just saying

I sort all my garbage, as in ALL.

actual part that goes into a garbage can fits into a plastic grocery bag. About 2 per week.

All sorted into different categories -
steel pull tops of cat food cans
other metals
paper & misc cardboard
highly engineered plastics.
food-ish stuff
tin cans

The tin cans I could sell, but it's easier on my tires if I just donate them and ask the scrap metal place to give the money to one of the employees that is always helping me by saving motors that were sold for scrap.

Offered to sell me a motor yesterday that weighs about 300 pounds and is big enough for a Ferris Wheel or ski lift but I had to pass.
 
I sort all my garbage, as in ALL.

actual part that goes into a garbage can fits into a plastic grocery bag. About 2 per week.

All sorted into different categories -
steel pull tops of cat food cans
other metals
paper & misc cardboard
highly engineered plastics.
food-ish stuff
tin cans

The tin cans I could sell, but it's easier on my tires if I just donate them and ask the scrap metal place to give the money to one of the employees that is always helping me by saving motors that were sold for scrap.

Offered to sell me a motor yesterday that weighs about 300 pounds and is big enough for a Ferris Wheel or ski lift but I had to pass.


that's cool
we all have to try to do that if we did it would help
I even reuse my paper coffee cups from 7/11 less waste and it saves me a dollar on refills same with plastic big gulp cups lol they last longer too like forever
keep up the good fight:)
 

flylowgethigh

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The banks are the commies hmm?

Well I must have missed something...

Yup, root of all evil. Jesus knew what to do with the moneychangers and it wasn't to smear them with HAO. :biggrin:

Are you aware of who owns the federal reserve bank? Did you know that your deposits in a bank account are really just an unsecured loan backed by the FDIC which went broke in 2008?

This was more applicable before the rug was pulled out in 2008 (and the banksters got the politicians to bail them out), but read this if you need more:

https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298645X
 

St. Phatty

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that's cool
we all have to try to do that if we did it would help
I even reuse my paper coffee cups from 7/11 less waste and it saves me a dollar on refills same with plastic big gulp cups lol they last longer too like forever
keep up the good fight:)

I don't get why some cities/counties are outlawing paper cups.

There is a HUUUUGE difference environmentally between paper & plastic.


I just helped a semi-homeless friend clean out a foreclosure that his mother bought for him. He has multiple hernias so cleaning out the garage by the deadline for the dumpster, might have put him back in the hospital.

And at the back of the garage ... 2 air cooled 1 Kilowatt grow lights, with a 1K Hortilux Eye bulb right there.

1/2 the stuff was perfectly good, kid's clothes etc.

I refuse to help by throwing stuff away.

$300 to $500 of mellow garage sale sitting right there.
 
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