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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

Gypsy Nirvana

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Way out in the remote province's - like where my bit of beach is 9 degrees North - it doesn't seem to matter who is the Pres - but I was deported back to the UK in March 2016, a month before Duterte got into power after spending 2 and a half years in a Manila jail - over this US indictment around my seed distribution efforts - So luckily I got out before all the death squads were out killing people...

*I can't go back till the US charges are dropped - and I am removed from the 'Blacklist' -

Paradise was mine for a while - then it slipped thru my fingers.

Looks amazing man, has Duterte changed the vibe in the Philippines or is it more varied by the region and such?
 

Gry

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Sounds interesting, especially since I prefer my blood moon on the rare side.

Gry, I see you often cannot vote on threads or possibly give rep, how many votes does that take to occur in your estimation?

It has never happened to me, so had to ask
Have never counted, but the votes make it all too easy to skip writing people which is my preferred approach.
I take joy in voting for those who question everything but still remember who brought them to the dance.
 

Dirt Bag

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I can tell if people have been to a 3rd world country by how they talk about it. 99% are not shitholes. Not by any stretch. They're just not "Western". But you won't understand what I'm saying unless you go. And I don't mean on a resort in the Dominican Republic or Cancun.

Heh. The Dominican Republic and Haiti are the epitome of shit holes, like a great deal of the ivory coast and the middle east. I mean really, piles of rubble in the desert. If they disappeared today, the world would be a better place.
 

Gry

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Heh. The Dominican Republic and Haiti are the epitome of shit holes, like a great deal of the ivory coast and the middle east. I mean really, piles of rubble in the desert. If they disappeared today, the world would be a better place.


Haiti was the wealthiest destination in the new world.
Were the island to disappear, the forces which reduced it to rubble would
not pause even momentarily as it consumes it's current victim.
Sooner or later it will come home to us, for desert.
Not much of the globe would remain if each of
the places we have exploited were to 'disappear'.
 

Gry

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VW has scheduled the production of their last gasoline powered vehicle.


Always thought it would be our grand parents generation, who would have seen the
greatest amount of change in a single lifetime.
 

St. Phatty

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I just had a chance to talk about the 2017, 2018, & 2019 fire years with a retired firefighter.

Specifically, the effects of the shut-down, on preparation for Federal contributions to the state fire-fighting efforts.

Long story short, the US gov is consciously standing down all its 2019 Federal fire prep efforts, by virtue of the shutdown, whose official reason is disagreement over the Border wall.

I asked him how big an effect that has, for example on existing burn piles.

My impression is that the burn piles are tasks that can be completed in a month, so that as long as the shutdown does not continue into April, there will be time to do the existing burn piles.

Anyway he said, Yes, they only need a month for the existing burn piles.

I told him that I feel like the 2018 Fire Season was a chapter in the movie San Andreas, except where California is getting hammered by fire, instead of earthquakes & tidal waves (as in the movie).

He said he felt the same way.

Since all existing wildfire capabilities have been proven totally insufficient the last 2 years, to stand down all the thousands of Federal employees that would other wise be preparing right now for 2019 ... WOW. It's like watching the USA slash its own wrists - and call it progress.

Third world, First world, it's not about Madison Avenue, it's about Cooperation Skills.

The US is demonstrating that it is one of the Shit-hole-iest nations with what it is doing to itself with the Shut-down.
 

Malato

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I just had a chance to talk about the 2017, 2018, & 2019 fire years with a retired firefighter.

Specifically, the effects of the shut-down, on preparation for Federal contributions to the state fire-fighting efforts.

Long story short, the US gov is consciously standing down all its 2019 Federal fire prep efforts, by virtue of the shutdown, whose official reason is disagreement over the Border wall.

I asked him how big an effect that has, for example on existing burn piles.

My impression is that the burn piles are tasks that can be completed in a month, so that as long as the shutdown does not continue into April, there will be time to do the existing burn piles.

Anyway he said, Yes, they only need a month for the existing burn piles.

I told him that I feel like the 2018 Fire Season was a chapter in the movie San Andreas, except where California is getting hammered by fire, instead of earthquakes & tidal waves (as in the movie).

He said he felt the same way.

Since all existing wildfire capabilities have been proven totally insufficient the last 2 years, to stand down all the thousands of Federal employees that would other wise be preparing right now for 2019 ... WOW. It's like watching the USA slash its own wrists - and call it progress.

Third world, First world, it's not about Madison Avenue, it's about Cooperation Skills.

The US is demonstrating that it is one of the Shit-hole-iest nations with what it is doing to itself with the Shut-down.

Hey phat, you a wild land fire fighter?
 

St. Phatty

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Hey phat, you a wild land fire fighter?

No, just do a lot of controlled burns on land that I own.

We've had 2x 30 acre fires the last 2 years, about 2 miles due Southeast over the hill. In the middle of summer. With nothing but millions of pounds of dry fuel in between.

Saved by the wind, or lack of.

So got a taste of what that kind of fear feels like.

In 2017, they pulled out all the resources. Air tankers etc. Had enough resources for a 100,000 acre fire, working on that little 30 acre fire.


I wonder if California has ever had years where it's not hot in Redding, and the coastal fog goes 200 miles inland. That kind of weather would be very helpful but there's no reason to think it's going to work out that way in 2019.

I wouldn't like to see it happen, but from a fire-fighting point of view, it would help if they used Round-up to stop all the spring plant growth.
 

Elmer Bud

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VW has scheduled the production of their last gasoline powered vehicle.


Always thought it would be our grand parents generation, who would have seen the
greatest amount of change in a single lifetime.


G `day G

VW won the Pikes Peak Colorado Mountain Climb race in record time ,,
in an electric car driven by a Le Man winner .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAJaGAMWjHM

They seem to be taking electric cars very seriously .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

siftedunity

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Seeing so many adults running around without world experience, to me, is just as sad.



Me neither. It's just a passing observation. It sure does seem to me like the era of great young american artist has passed.. Seeing more and more foreigners take the main stage with art and music. And why not, when Americans value the arts and sciences less every day in favor of social media and daytime television?



By that logic though, a more technologically advanced nation should be more educated and less ignorant that a less developed nation. That looks good on paper, but it doesn't exactly hold water when you take a look at our literacy rates or our state of mental and physical well-being as a whole.

Money only gets you so far without values.

no I didn't mean that a more technologically advanced nation would be more intelligent and and less ignorant.. I'm sure the percentage of the population who are leading the fields in science and tech is probably tiny, but its definitely there. I mean there was only one Isaac newton, or Socrates or Steven hawking. its never been the case that amazing people are wide spread, and most of the population are ignorant and aspire to nothing but looking good of face book. so yeah I agree to a point. I was born in 83, I avoid social media like the plague and would rather research and discuss online or learn something than watch tv. and my friends are the same. so I don't feel anyone can write off a generation..
 

Bobby Boucher

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Well, in my admittedly narrow perspective, real privilege is having the time and the resources to find your niche and hone it to an art, and ultimately contribute the best of your best to society, and I guess from a nationalists point of view, to your country. This is something that seems to be happening less and less here, and more and more in other parts of the world.

I was constantly swinging back and forth between that fine line of privilege growing up. I still plan great things for myself, but I can't help but feel I might have attained some of these things if survival hadn't been such a big issue.

I've honestly spent a lot of time homeless after the foreclosure epidemic.. so, Im a little biased. Better part of 10 years out of my car or whatever couch or warehouse or office or gym.. So. There is that.
 

Gry

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Well, in my admittedly narrow perspective, real privilege is having the time and the resources to find your niche and hone it to an art, and ultimately contribute the best of your best to society, and I guess from a nationalists point of view, to your country. This is something that seems to be happening less and less here, and more and more in other parts of the world.

I was constantly swinging back and forth between that fine line of privilege growing up. I still plan great things for myself, but I can't help but feel I might have attained some of these things if survival hadn't been such a big issue.

I've honestly spent a lot of time homeless after the foreclosure epidemic.. so, Im a little biased. Better part of 10 years out of my car or whatever couch or warehouse or office or gym.. So. There is that.


Very sorry that has been the case for you. Be interesting to know what % of homes changed hands in the aftermath of the last fold up.
I find absolutely disgusting that we live in a country where the pathetic excuse for a minimum wage has actually decreased since I was a kid.
Obscene the jaskasses who gut our economy repeatedly make themselves whole after each malfeasance while leaving the populace flapping in the breeze.
I salute your endurance and tenacity in being able to deal with
having been homeless, as well as your personal courage in choosing
to share something of that nature publicly.
 

packerfan79

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Very sorry that has been the case for you. Be interesting to know what % of homes changed hands in the aftermath of the last fold up.
I find absolutely disgusting that we live in a country where the pathetic excuse for a minimum wage has actually decreased since I was a kid.
Obscene the jaskasses who gut our economy repeatedly make themselves whole after each malfeasance while leaving the populace flapping in the breeze.
I salute your endurance and tenacity in being able to deal with
having been homeless, as well as your personal courage in choosing
to share something of that nature publicly.

Hang on , we are headed for another mortgage collapse. I am seeing ads for loans, with no income verification, and interest only loans. Oh, joy the idiots will be buying houses they can't pay for. Then we can all deal with another decade of recession. Hopefully, we smarten up and let the damn banks fail this time.
 

Gry

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Ignignokt

I know i shouldn't be, but i am kind of wondering and eager to see if there is going to be a 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman' type of moment from Drumpf. :bigeye:
Seeing him bumble around is kind of fascinating.... it feels like something is going to give soon, but what will it be?
'Stay tuned for next weeks episode....' :biggrin:
 

EvergreenState

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Third world status? Ever been to a third world country? Poor people in the states live like kings in comparison to people in third world countries. Oh my will the hyperbole never end?
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Morcheeba*

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Third world status? Ever been to a third world country? Poor people in the states live like kings in comparison to people in third world countries. Oh my will the hyperbole never end?
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very true. i live in a dominant migrant community and while for american standards my hood is poor but for the migrants its a huge step up from their home country.


i do believe our country is on the edge of loosing its dominance as a super power, china is next to dominate.




peace
 

bigtacofarmer

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Third world status? Ever been to a third world country? Poor people in the states live like kings in comparison to people in third world countries. Oh my will the hyperbole never end?
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I figure there are two types of third world country. First are the ones that have never been developed. This can be good or bad. Some have people living off the land just like they always have been and always should be. Others could really use some first world help. The other kind of third world country looks like at one time they had infastructure and amenities just like we do. Then due to some type of conflict, economic crash or war they went to shit. You see these alot in parts of West Africa and in the Middle East.

What do you think New York City will look like after a few months of looting?

What will the American people do to their own community when stores run out of food and banks all close?

How long does it take a thriving city to start consuming itself?
 

944s2

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very true. i live in a dominant migrant community and while for american standards my hood is poor but for the migrants its a huge step up from their home country.


i do believe our country is on the edge of loosing its dominance as a super power, china is next to dominate.




peace

Yes,,
China already has its claws into the uk,,
Huawei big over here whilst nobody else trusts them or will do business and talk of the Chinese building new nuclear power stations in the uk,,,
Huge mansions in Mayfair and Knightsbridge owned by Chinese that lay empty,,,
Lots and lots of big Chinese money in London,,s2
 

armedoldhippy

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I know i shouldn't be, but i am kind of wondering and eager to see if there is going to be a 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman' type of moment from Drumpf. :bigeye:
Seeing him bumble around is kind of fascinating.... it feels like something is going to give soon, but what will it be?
'Stay tuned for next weeks episode....' :biggrin:

if he opens his mouth, what comes out will be a lie. bank on it...:tiphat:
 
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