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Tom Hill Haze

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I have no idea I am guessing it was shit or we would have heard more about it. Clarke bypassed it prolly for good reason in the origin of the species article. Haze is Colombian heavy or Thai heavy and the rest was just jingle dreams lol.
I'm trying to find a Chai spice smell, I thought maybe it came from the south Indian as I've seen it in a White widow hybrid.
 

Tom Hill

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I don't know man. For me chai is tea. And tea is just glorified dirty water 😂 I don't do subtle, and I doubt Sam would ever give anybody the time of day in the answer. I still waiting for him to answer my very simple question here on this forum from like 20 years ago why my shit is totally different from the typical Dutch haze.
 

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I don't know man. For me chai is tea. And tea is just glorified dirty water 😂 I don't do subtle, and I doubt Sam would ever give anybody the time of day in the answer. I still waiting for him to answer my very simple question here on this forum from like 20 years ago why my shit is totally different from the typical Dutch haze.
It says on like page 2 or something like that of this thread that the guy from positronics had a cutting of haze a x haze c and he polenated it with males from Sam or something like that. So if this original female was thai dominant and had been selected as the keeper from a large number that would explain how yours is different but still contains variation from the different males.
 

Tom Hill

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It says on like page 2 or something like that of this thread that the guy from positronics had a cutting of haze a x haze c and he polenated it with males from Sam or something like that. So if this original female was thai dominant and had been selected as the keeper from a large number that would explain how yours is different but still contains variation from the different males.
No man. The haze I got from Positronics had nothing to do with Positronics it was just Sam jingling around scooping up cheddar on the side in early Amsterdam.
 

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You all just hooked on milk and sugar tryna fine ono in the dirty water 😂
Well I had a pheno that smelled and tasted like floral vanilla Chai so now that all the cookie flavors are getting old I figured it mite be worth something. Like if you could get a plant that smelled like that and mix it with a pastrie smelling plant like Cherry Pie you mite have a winner as far as something that appeals to the flavor heads.
 

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Well I had a pheno that smelled and tasted like floral vanilla Chai so now that all the cookie flavors are getting old I figured it mite be worth something. Like if you could get a plant that smelled like that and mix it with a pastrie smelling plant like Cherry Pie you mite have a winner as far as something that appeals to the flavor heads.
I don't give a fuck about smells really that's Todd's domain lol. I want to get high. As long as it does not taste like dog shit I move directly to the quality of high. Everything else is chick weed.
 

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No man. The haze I got from Positronics had nothing to do with Positronics it was just Sam jingling around scooping up cheddar on the side in early Amsterdam.
Makes sense, its easyer to sell seeds threw someone with an established reputation when your starting out in a new place. That post says the cut was from Sam also but who knows where they got all that from. Basically if the trippy phenos are mostly in yours and not in seedsman or Ohaze or whatever then I figured maybe they did a huge run of the original haze and found a star keeper and then pollenated it with a bunch of males and that was the positronics version. I'm sure if this is true that it was basically a front for Sam's project but I'm just reading between the lines. All speculation really.
 

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Some of the best weed I ever smoked was out of Jamaica around 1982. No taste, no smell, so smoothe you didn't know you got a hit until you exhaled. So much for the entourage effect, that weed was complete and utter euphoria.
Lambsbread is suspected to contain 12%+ THCV phenos which would explain that. THCV is an Anelgesic euphoriant, heroin is also technically an Anelgisic euphoriant lol
 

Tom Hill

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Makes sense, its easyer to sell seeds threw someone with an established reputation when your starting out in a new place. That post says the cut was from Sam also but who knows where they got all that from. Basically if the trippy phenos are mostly in yours and not in seedsman or Ohaze or whatever then I figured maybe they did a huge run of the original haze and found a star keeper and then pollenated it with a bunch of males and that was the positronics version. I'm sure if this is true that it was basically a front for Sam's project but I'm just reading between the lines. All speculation really.
For years I look online and and see morons saying the haze I grow comes down from haze 19. It really pisses me off. It's not true. There was no such clone when I was there the seed I grow come from Sams moonlighting period end of. I got plenty faults but being a lying sack of shit ain't one of them.
 

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Lambsbread is suspected to contain 12%+ THCV phenos which would explain that. THCV is an Anelgesic euphoriant, heroin is also technically an Anelgisic euphoriant lol
I Think OG kush is like 2%-4% THCV when grown correctly which is why it's so well liked. THCV takes longer to biosythesize then THC so it's mostly only gonna be in longer flowering strains. The lambsbread is supper light green so ide imagine that it was kind smoke and euphoric if you happened to get a THCV heavy phenotype.
 

harvestreaper

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ahh the old jamaican from early 80s certainly was up there some had a sweet lilt to the taste wass my first experiance with top class herb,,,as to thai n haze sams statd numerous times its a lumbo hybrid ,,i seen no thai in sams old stuff ,,macs repro of it or todds ,,only in thhh f2s i grew from mm distinctly thai ,,i see only two possiblitys of why that is lol
 

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For years I look online and and see morons saying the haze I grow comes down from haze 19. It really pisses me off. It's not true. There was no such clone when I was there the seed I grow come from Sams moonlighting period end of. I got plenty faults but being a lying sack of shit ain't one of them.
Don't think your lying man I was just explaining my speculation. I don't follow the whole history that well. I Thought haze was basically just a mashed mix of those 4 strains and the reason yours was better was because it came from a well selected clone is all.
 

Tom Hill

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Don't think your lying man I was just explaining my speculation. I don't follow the whole history that well. I Thought haze was basically just a mashed mix of those 4 strains and the reason yours was better was because it came from a well selected clone is all.
Nah man. It's just better because it is Thai heavy and he save the wrong one lol. He tried to redo it later but failed.
 
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