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Tom Hill Haze
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chakras
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The first parental generation for Cannabis was about 20+- million years ago in/around the Tibetan plateau. Since then, brothers and sisters have been successfully breeding together in succeeding generations for millenniums of time without any assistance from man, being a relative newcomer on the block. Doin okay at that, so it goes. When "blending" different native or landrace stock, some would call that a "hybrid", of which is what Haze is about too.
Really is not so important to call something a name as to understand how is was derived. Like with Tom's described current project, brothers and sisters are apparently being used. I grew up during the same time, and this was how it was done then, and for decades and centuries before either of us arrived. The Thai weed then was certainly ass kicker, just ask any of the guys in Nam then, who used it to supress fear and cope when sent out on night patrol.
As I believe Tom has correctly described, and this should be obvious, the greater number of plants that you can use, the better, in open pollination breeding, especially when you are attempting to bring back or retain a genetic line or ibl line, using genetic material (seeds) that may be older. Trying to do plant breeding, using very limited stock, is very often going to miss out on important genetic coding, because of lack of diversification and consequently availability.
It looks like Tom, from all his pictures, and his decades long wealth of experience, is doing just that. We should all applaud his efforts, both past and present, with much sincere gratitude. Without gatekeepers like Tom, who understood before many of us were even born, the importance of keeping and improving these closely held genetic lines, these valuable pure genetic stocks would be all but lost. Looking forward to the goodness in six weeks time.
Really is not so important to call something a name as to understand how is was derived. Like with Tom's described current project, brothers and sisters are apparently being used. I grew up during the same time, and this was how it was done then, and for decades and centuries before either of us arrived. The Thai weed then was certainly ass kicker, just ask any of the guys in Nam then, who used it to supress fear and cope when sent out on night patrol.
As I believe Tom has correctly described, and this should be obvious, the greater number of plants that you can use, the better, in open pollination breeding, especially when you are attempting to bring back or retain a genetic line or ibl line, using genetic material (seeds) that may be older. Trying to do plant breeding, using very limited stock, is very often going to miss out on important genetic coding, because of lack of diversification and consequently availability.
It looks like Tom, from all his pictures, and his decades long wealth of experience, is doing just that. We should all applaud his efforts, both past and present, with much sincere gratitude. Without gatekeepers like Tom, who understood before many of us were even born, the importance of keeping and improving these closely held genetic lines, these valuable pure genetic stocks would be all but lost. Looking forward to the goodness in six weeks time.
Those haze balls look like they need a jizz mop, bro. That’s some exciting shit right there, and I don’t even like most dudes balls
. I‘d make one of those chicks around him go and get a warm towel.
GreenAndFast
Well-known member
Hey been hanging around beanbasement and his grow thread is looking great @HEMPYhey hempy good to see you
whats the beanbasement? lol
GreenAndFast
Well-known member
Just another forum mate. Pretty cool vibe there too. @harvestreaper
thanks for the info,,,sounds underground lol
Can you dm me to start convo I cant seem to figure out how to start a PM on here
GrandpaMillenial
Well-known member
The real hempy has an @ in the name so you gotta double tap that @
Just click on the name.
You have to have a min of 50 posts to use PM. That's how it used to be, not sure if it has changed.
sublingual
Well-known member
The original Jack is not the later Jack.Most of you guys are not qualifiedat c99, jack h, trainwreck, calio, all of it is glorified Mexican stick to that.
The original Jack Herer composition had instability and was reworked into another line (SSH). I found this out later.
I bought some of the originals at Sensi Adam and grew them out a few seeds at a time over several years along with others varieties. The last 2 seeds were a gorgeous heavy yielder female and a male that indicated sex after the female. He was huge with the longest fingered fans I have ever seen. The fingers weren't the very skinniest but were super long with the end part twisted. Very unique and obviously a tropical sativa throwback from ancestry. I didn't know the fact at the time that the strain was instable, this was 10 years before. Have you ever seen the twisted leaf ends?
So what was the instability? Its obvious that a Haze ancestor was coming out of the Jack Herer cross (looking back from my experience).
At the time I tried to cross him with whatever females I had going outdoors and he produced some really really good individuals. It was all good back then but I didn't know then what I know now of the value of such an individual plant. The seeds were lost before I found out what that plant was.
sublingual
Well-known member
Another Throwback Haze from a really good hybrid. It took almost 10 weeks to indicate sex (male).
A favorite recommendation from breeders back in the day was to discard to longer flowering Haze hybrids as impractical. I saw the situation completely the opposite, I threw the shorter flowerer away and kept only the most hazy of the hybrids.
I have no idea if my hunches on this particular plant are correct (I've been wrong before) until I see his daughters. This is why few do sativa breeding, the turn around cycle to separate the outstanding ones is so much longer.
A favorite recommendation from breeders back in the day was to discard to longer flowering Haze hybrids as impractical. I saw the situation completely the opposite, I threw the shorter flowerer away and kept only the most hazy of the hybrids.
I have no idea if my hunches on this particular plant are correct (I've been wrong before) until I see his daughters. This is why few do sativa breeding, the turn around cycle to separate the outstanding ones is so much longer.
And we still need something that adds up to more than a Hill O'beans! Tom.
........Get your #1 tester on point [flower-power]
You can do this right here ...Move on Son!
Look @ the albums of that ICmag haze he ran for johnny...Its full size 15ft plants
Anti-Gypsy commentary falls short here Tom Hill,
.He stood up to real Authority and saved this place!
If he had not resisted those cops trying to push him on to plane to USA via DEA
There would be No ICmag,,,,,,,,
He could have gone to America ...modern facilities...@ Federal Country Club
He could have gone the easy way...
He chose the bullet to the back of the head
Just remember that when your mouthing off around here
I know he doesn't need me here to defend him... however,
Lets just cling to the edge of reality shall we.... Tom Hill?
We have a saying around here maybe you've seen it....
"Fuck 'Em!"
Try it...You'll like it!
Let it Go.
x
........Get your #1 tester on point [flower-power]
You can do this right here ...Move on Son!
Look @ the albums of that ICmag haze he ran for johnny...Its full size 15ft plants
Anti-Gypsy commentary falls short here Tom Hill,
.He stood up to real Authority and saved this place!
If he had not resisted those cops trying to push him on to plane to USA via DEA
There would be No ICmag,,,,,,,,
He could have gone to America ...modern facilities...@ Federal Country Club
He could have gone the easy way...
He chose the bullet to the back of the head
Just remember that when your mouthing off around here
I know he doesn't need me here to defend him... however,
Lets just cling to the edge of reality shall we.... Tom Hill?
We have a saying around here maybe you've seen it....
"Fuck 'Em!"
Try it...You'll like it!
Let it Go.
x
Vegg69guerilla
Active member
ain't that the truth..lol
MtRainDog
New member
Yeah, THH is a lot more interesting than what those other guys are peddling.. can't tom just sell a bunch of seeds and laugh in their faces? Everyone's growing tired of the same commerical crap everywhere. Funny to see so many flocking to the older lines now. Kids at the dispos all looking for NL nowadays. Too funny, but a welcome change indeed. Let's get high.
........... if yer gonna start a campaign to boycott ICMag because of something involving Chimera, the best place to start is beanbasement, not here!
CannaT
starin' at the world through my rearview
Can anybody post picture or smoke report of that thing you are all chasing ?
What are characteristics of this plant ?
When I read about it, it looks to me like kids chasing secret treshure.
What type of Haze is this? Columbian,Mex or Thai and what about South Indian haze it is cradle of potent weed on earth and nothing good from there ?,I smoked with some refugee very good cut of SLH before few years he told me that this is straight like their jungle weed grom Kerala rocket high.I read that around 1800 Indian hemp was used as remedy in old England...and it was very psydelic back than.Also White Widow is made half of South Indian and it is radicilus pungent on sandalwood incense while burn.
All myths about crazy strong Thai comes from US and wars in SE Asia.
We all know that with all psydelics sorounding we are in while we consume them have great impact.
Being few k miles from home in some blody war I bet hemp will get you high as crazy in that surrounding.
Nothing to hate just my hazed toughts right now.
Im interested in this infos if somebody can give them.
What are characteristics of this plant ?
When I read about it, it looks to me like kids chasing secret treshure.
What type of Haze is this? Columbian,Mex or Thai and what about South Indian haze it is cradle of potent weed on earth and nothing good from there ?,I smoked with some refugee very good cut of SLH before few years he told me that this is straight like their jungle weed grom Kerala rocket high.I read that around 1800 Indian hemp was used as remedy in old England...and it was very psydelic back than.Also White Widow is made half of South Indian and it is radicilus pungent on sandalwood incense while burn.
All myths about crazy strong Thai comes from US and wars in SE Asia.
We all know that with all psydelics sorounding we are in while we consume them have great impact.
Being few k miles from home in some blody war I bet hemp will get you high as crazy in that surrounding.
Nothing to hate just my hazed toughts right now.
Im interested in this infos if somebody can give them.
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