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Tiger's Den 4 - A New Toke
- Thread starter NiteTiger
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Hey guys, glad to see you all here!
No kidding! Like I said - If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Yeah, I'll get it, just an adjustment period.
UPDATE:
Got the defs under control. Still showing some Nitrogen overfert, but I'd rather have the overfert than the defs. I've got them running on 1.5 tsp FNB, .5 tsp Cal-Mag Plus, and half dose of TopMaxx, plus our standard 1 tsp Hydroguard.
With the defs under control, I'm moving to an every other watering nute regime to see if that gets the nitrogen overfert under control. I'm going to stick with this formula for now, because, while it appears to be a bit nitro rich for some plants, it's working well for the others. So I'll wait to dial in the formula until I'm running from clone.
Speaking of clones, one of our B52 clones rooted, and moved into a beer cup in preparation of becoming our new mom. As soon as she's ready, we'll start taking clones from her and moving them into flower to build to a perpetual. That's the point we'll start dialing in the exact formulation she likes.
No sprouts from the Durban Poison or the Trainwreck/Burmese yet.
Everything's beginning to sex out. So far, 5 confirmed girlies, in addition to the B52 of course.
I'll get you guys a photo update once we're sexed out, unless you demand pics before then
Pimpslapped said:
No kidding! Like I said - If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
tngreen said:
Yeah, I'll get it, just an adjustment period.
Will do!NorCalChron said:
Thanks for lookin' out for me Greentngreen said:
I'm looking forward to it too! Like I always say - Ever 'elite' was someone's bagseed.LatinThug said:
UPDATE:
Got the defs under control. Still showing some Nitrogen overfert, but I'd rather have the overfert than the defs. I've got them running on 1.5 tsp FNB, .5 tsp Cal-Mag Plus, and half dose of TopMaxx, plus our standard 1 tsp Hydroguard.
With the defs under control, I'm moving to an every other watering nute regime to see if that gets the nitrogen overfert under control. I'm going to stick with this formula for now, because, while it appears to be a bit nitro rich for some plants, it's working well for the others. So I'll wait to dial in the formula until I'm running from clone.
Speaking of clones, one of our B52 clones rooted, and moved into a beer cup in preparation of becoming our new mom. As soon as she's ready, we'll start taking clones from her and moving them into flower to build to a perpetual. That's the point we'll start dialing in the exact formulation she likes.
No sprouts from the Durban Poison or the Trainwreck/Burmese yet.
Everything's beginning to sex out. So far, 5 confirmed girlies, in addition to the B52 of course.
I'll get you guys a photo update once we're sexed out, unless you demand pics before then
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Hey NT, I am feeding 1.5 ml/L CalMax and find this is just taking care of the cal and mag defs I had with my LUIs and OB1. 1/2 tsp is per gallon, correct? That seems kinda weak still, but obviously results are what to look at. I zinged my moms with too strong fert at first. They are good now but there is still some damaged leaves left at the bottom. All new growth is green and solid.
Coco appears to "use less nutes" because it is better at retaining what you add. Ferts don't flush out as easy as other medis, so they work longer, therefore overall less is required because you aren't flushing it out the bottom. I love coco and am still tweaking some mixes. My next run I will try just coco, worm castings, dry kelp, BioBizz PreMix dry fert additive and omit the perlite and lime. I read that coco drains so well you don't need perlite and because coco is so much closer to ideal ph than peat, you don't need the lime to buffer ph. My only concern is now I will need to add ph up instead of down when my acidic nutes take the ph too far down. I'd rather add fulvic acid as a ph down then some kind of ph up. Fulvic has many benefits besides ph change and it is organic, unlike phosphoric acid ph down. Time will tell and the extra cal and mag of lime is a bonus......
Good luck!
Coco appears to "use less nutes" because it is better at retaining what you add. Ferts don't flush out as easy as other medis, so they work longer, therefore overall less is required because you aren't flushing it out the bottom. I love coco and am still tweaking some mixes. My next run I will try just coco, worm castings, dry kelp, BioBizz PreMix dry fert additive and omit the perlite and lime. I read that coco drains so well you don't need perlite and because coco is so much closer to ideal ph than peat, you don't need the lime to buffer ph. My only concern is now I will need to add ph up instead of down when my acidic nutes take the ph too far down. I'd rather add fulvic acid as a ph down then some kind of ph up. Fulvic has many benefits besides ph change and it is organic, unlike phosphoric acid ph down. Time will tell and the extra cal and mag of lime is a bonus......
Good luck!
Update!
Ok, here's where we stand. I'm either the luckiest summabitch around, or I've got a problem brewing. ALL of my bagseed seedlings are female.
Well, how can that be bad, you ask? Well, female seeds tend to come from hermi plants, so I may very well have a room full of hermi bombs that are getting stressed while I try to dial in the nutes
Also, I'm still having trouble dialing in that B52. She's flowering up nice, but she's STILL craving more Cal/Mag. Also still showing the nitro overfert. So, we've adjusted the formula again, by reducing the FNB to 5ml/gal, and increasing the Cal/Mag to 1 tsp per gal. Hopefully, this will reduce our overall nitro contribution (CalMag+ has nitro as well)
We'll see!
Here's a pic of the flower room. You can see the B52 with her pale leaves, 2nd row, 2nd from left.
And, in another stroke of luck - guess who decided to join the party?
Til Next Time
Ok, here's where we stand. I'm either the luckiest summabitch around, or I've got a problem brewing. ALL of my bagseed seedlings are female.
Well, how can that be bad, you ask? Well, female seeds tend to come from hermi plants, so I may very well have a room full of hermi bombs that are getting stressed while I try to dial in the nutes
Also, I'm still having trouble dialing in that B52. She's flowering up nice, but she's STILL craving more Cal/Mag. Also still showing the nitro overfert. So, we've adjusted the formula again, by reducing the FNB to 5ml/gal, and increasing the Cal/Mag to 1 tsp per gal. Hopefully, this will reduce our overall nitro contribution (CalMag+ has nitro as well)
We'll see!
Here's a pic of the flower room. You can see the B52 with her pale leaves, 2nd row, 2nd from left.
And, in another stroke of luck - guess who decided to join the party?
Til Next Time
KillerWeed
Member
NiteTiger,
I am sure you will get that nute schedule dialed in. Lucas has put together some excellent info for beginners and seasoned vets alike. I think there is a link for a version of this thread around here, but I was just browsing online and I saw his awesome guide. Here is hoping for no hermies.
KillerWeed
I am sure you will get that nute schedule dialed in. Lucas has put together some excellent info for beginners and seasoned vets alike. I think there is a link for a version of this thread around here, but I was just browsing online and I saw his awesome guide. Here is hoping for no hermies.
KillerWeed
Great info KW! Thanks for the link!
And yeah, I've opposed a hermi ban on the flower pod. If so much as one banana shows, the plant is gone. No plucking, no nothing. No second chances.
I'm not risking a seed infestation on bagseed.
Now if that Trainwreck & Burmese cross pops sacs, THAT I'll pull some pollen off of, those genes are too intriguing to let pass by.
And yeah, I've opposed a hermi ban on the flower pod. If so much as one banana shows, the plant is gone. No plucking, no nothing. No second chances.
I'm not risking a seed infestation on bagseed.
Now if that Trainwreck & Burmese cross pops sacs, THAT I'll pull some pollen off of, those genes are too intriguing to let pass by.
Hey NT,
Lookin good around here, yea i seem to be in the same boat as you with all ladies from seed. Mine did come off of a plant that threw a few nanners because of a light leak, now that the light leak is gone i think these ladies will be all female. I think as long as you can keep the stress down they will be ok. Keep up the great work bud. Peace
-N.Kron
Lookin good around here, yea i seem to be in the same boat as you with all ladies from seed. Mine did come off of a plant that threw a few nanners because of a light leak, now that the light leak is gone i think these ladies will be all female. I think as long as you can keep the stress down they will be ok. Keep up the great work bud. Peace
-N.Kron
GAAAAH! I'm pissed. Pissed pissed pissed. 
and any other smileys that might work.
This damn nute shit! Driving me up the wall!
The defs got worse with the new formulation
My theory is that ... oh fuck theories.
I'm hitting the reset button. Back to the basics. 8ml FNB, 5ml CalMag+, and I threw in some molasses. Nothing extra. No topmaxx, no silica, no hydroguard even. Back to absolute fucking basics.
This girl was chugging along, happy as can be. Now she's all pale and sad looking. Well, pale. The buds are chugging along, and look good for 2 weeks in, but looking at the rest of the plant, I know it could be doing better.
But hey, I really can't be too upset. I've got 10 girls in flower, even if they're having some minor issues, they're overall healthy. Even if the B52 doesn't put out as much as she could, I've still got smoke. And with ten, just 5 grams per plant dry gives me plenty of smoke to get through to another flower cycle.
Speaking of flowering cycles, I'm hoping to have another round of clones ready to go in by Oct. 17, aiming for a 30 day cycle.
Sorry, just had to get that rant off
and any other smileys that might work.This damn nute shit! Driving me up the wall!
The defs got worse with the new formulation
My theory is that ... oh fuck theories.I'm hitting the reset button. Back to the basics. 8ml FNB, 5ml CalMag+, and I threw in some molasses. Nothing extra. No topmaxx, no silica, no hydroguard even. Back to absolute fucking basics.
This girl was chugging along, happy as can be. Now she's all pale and sad looking. Well, pale. The buds are chugging along, and look good for 2 weeks in, but looking at the rest of the plant, I know it could be doing better.
But hey, I really can't be too upset. I've got 10 girls in flower, even if they're having some minor issues, they're overall healthy. Even if the B52 doesn't put out as much as she could, I've still got smoke. And with ten, just 5 grams per plant dry gives me plenty of smoke to get through to another flower cycle.
Speaking of flowering cycles, I'm hoping to have another round of clones ready to go in by Oct. 17, aiming for a 30 day cycle.
Sorry, just had to get that rant off
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EatShitake
Hey, Nite.
Sorry to hear of your temporary issues. I'm sure you'll get things dialed in, though, and before you know it, the bud-plosion will begin!
Grow on!
Sorry to hear of your temporary issues. I'm sure you'll get things dialed in, though, and before you know it, the bud-plosion will begin!
Grow on!
Update:
Okay, looks like things are progressing well on the reset formula. Everyone's looking happy, healthy, and growing great gonzo! Those freaking bagseed sativas are driving hard, streeeeeeeeeeetch. It's almost to the point that I'm going to have to put a milk crate under the B-52 to keep it on the canopy :jawdrop:
Speaking of the B52, she's doing great. She doesn't look as good in this pic as she does today, she had just started her recovery. The pale green is actually color coming back into the leaves. I'm actually happy to see the leaves recovering slower, because you can see that the plant is devoting more energy to the buds.
Anyway, enough talk, let's take a look!
The flower room. Look at those leggy sativas surrounding the B52.
Now, a closer look at the B52. If you're wondering, these pics are taken from my watering tub.
Temps are right where I wanted them
Ever wonder how people identify phenos?
Sativa Pheno
Indica Pheno
'Til Next Time!
Okay, looks like things are progressing well on the reset formula. Everyone's looking happy, healthy, and growing great gonzo! Those freaking bagseed sativas are driving hard, streeeeeeeeeeetch. It's almost to the point that I'm going to have to put a milk crate under the B-52 to keep it on the canopy :jawdrop:
Speaking of the B52, she's doing great. She doesn't look as good in this pic as she does today, she had just started her recovery. The pale green is actually color coming back into the leaves. I'm actually happy to see the leaves recovering slower, because you can see that the plant is devoting more energy to the buds.
Anyway, enough talk, let's take a look!
The flower room. Look at those leggy sativas surrounding the B52.
Now, a closer look at the B52. If you're wondering, these pics are taken from my watering tub.
Temps are right where I wanted them
Ever wonder how people identify phenos?
Sativa Pheno
Indica Pheno
'Til Next Time!
lookn wicked bro
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Guest
Damn Nite Tiger. Sorry bout your luck on the nutes. That's why I TRY to follow a very simple regimen...keep my goofy hands off, lol! That 70% humidity in that pic is a killer I hope that's not all day long? Anyway....thinks look pretty nice in the flower room over there. You're going to do far better than 5 grams per plant! 
How you would survive on only 50 grams for 6-8 weeks is beyond me though, lol!
How you would survive on only 50 grams for 6-8 weeks is beyond me though, lol!
Stoned2Death - Got the nutes under control by going back to my simple formula, so I have to agree
As far as the RH, yeah, I noticed that looked a bit high when I took the pic. First time I've ever seen it that high, it's usually at 52-54%. Best I can figure, I took these pics after I'd done my watering, and that means the door to the pod had been open about an hour, and the air has been quite humid.
Between the A/C being in there, and my oscillating fan that really keeps the air going, I don't think I'll have a problem. I'll be keeping a closer eye on it though, checking it before I start my regimen, so I know what it's as a base line.
Bignugget - No issues with mold yet, but this is the first grow in the revamped pods. Plus it's summer, the last grow was in winter, and my problem was trying to keep the RH above 20%
So, no issues yet, and I don't think there will be, for the reasons I said above.
Thanks for tunin' guys!
As far as the RH, yeah, I noticed that looked a bit high when I took the pic. First time I've ever seen it that high, it's usually at 52-54%. Best I can figure, I took these pics after I'd done my watering, and that means the door to the pod had been open about an hour, and the air has been quite humid.
Between the A/C being in there, and my oscillating fan that really keeps the air going, I don't think I'll have a problem. I'll be keeping a closer eye on it though, checking it before I start my regimen, so I know what it's as a base line.
Bignugget - No issues with mold yet, but this is the first grow in the revamped pods. Plus it's summer, the last grow was in winter, and my problem was trying to keep the RH above 20%
So, no issues yet, and I don't think there will be, for the reasons I said above.Thanks for tunin' guys!
NiteTiger said:...
And, in another stroke of luck - guess who decided to join the party?
Til Next Time
YEAH baby I am so excited to see this little one grow up - I'm hoping she's a female
I'm hoping she'll live. The next day after I snapped that pic, she flopped over. Complete failure to thrive. I've got her on life support, but I'm not sure if I can save her 
None of the Durban Poisons sprouted at all, so good call on the germ issues Suga. So, I think it's time for.... OB1
None of the Durban Poisons sprouted at all, so good call on the germ issues Suga. So, I think it's time for.... OB1
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buzzed day
hello Night Tiger,your grow looks good. i think you'll have the colour back soon.a phenon just have more leaves?thanks for the graet show.peace
